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Seems a bit off topic? To remind you...ignorant alt/right hacks spreading disinformation---knowingly.owning a gun is a fundemental right, owning a gun is not being a murderer.
Supporting gun rights for law abiding citizens is not murder, nor is it supporting murder.
Almost all guns in the US right now will never kill another human life.
An abortion always kills human life, regardless of if you think a fetus is a person or not.
This is what the thread is devolving into, don't like it, fuck off.
the thread is not devolving on it's own. you and your fellow trolls don't like the subject matter of the thread.
so feel free to take your own advice.
It's about the issues surrounding those idiot kids and their lefty crusade, still more on topic than most threads.
no doubt that's what your NRA masters say.
it simply isn't the law and isn't justified by the law.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
heller says differently. but even heller doesn't say what you want it to say.
and the perversion that is the NRA's propaganda on the 2nd is pathetic.
Owning an assault rifle is notAbortion is legal......supporting it is not a crimeAbortion is legalNo, they are not.
Again, is NARAL responsible for every abortion that has taken place?
Murdering school children is not
owning a gun is a fundemental right, owning a gun is not being a murderer.
Supporting gun rights for law abiding citizens is not murder, nor is it supporting murder.
Almost all guns in the US right now will never kill another human life.
An abortion always kills human life, regardless of if you think a fetus is a person or not.
Murdering school children is
Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.
Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.
Seems a bit off topic? To remind you...ignorant alt/right hacks spreading disinformation---knowingly.
This is what the thread is devolving into, don't like it, fuck off.
the thread is not devolving on it's own. you and your fellow trolls don't like the subject matter of the thread.
so feel free to take your own advice.
It's about the issues surrounding those idiot kids and their lefty crusade, still more on topic than most threads.
no doubt that's what your NRA masters say.
it simply isn't the law and isn't justified by the law.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
heller says differently. but even heller doesn't say what you want it to say.
and the perversion that is the NRA's propaganda on the 2nd is pathetic.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
Exactly! That's why the 2nd Amendment said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".......moron.
They have been banned in the past and can be banned againOwning an assault rifle is notAbortion is legal......supporting it is not a crimeAbortion is legal
Murdering school children is not
owning a gun is a fundemental right, owning a gun is not being a murderer.
Supporting gun rights for law abiding citizens is not murder, nor is it supporting murder.
Almost all guns in the US right now will never kill another human life.
An abortion always kills human life, regardless of if you think a fetus is a person or not.
Murdering school children is
Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.
Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.
If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.
Cashing their disability checks and filling their medical Marijuana prescriptions.So, where is this upstanding, patriotic militia?
I quit the W Post in 1994 because of its racist, pro-democrat bias. Any ‘news’ story supporting these kids and their movement is propaganda.Nope. Unless you believe that the WaPo has an agenda which includes 'outing' ignorant alt/right posters on their BS. Then, yeah, you might be right.This entire thread and its source,the W Post, using kids as political pawns — again — in order to propagate their Marxist agenda.
SOS
Marxist agenda? I don't think you have the first idea of what you are talking about.
BTW..I think it's the kids using the media to propagate their message. Not pawns..but self-actuated and pro-socially active.
This is what the thread is devolving into, don't like it, fuck off.
the thread is not devolving on it's own. you and your fellow trolls don't like the subject matter of the thread.
so feel free to take your own advice.
It's about the issues surrounding those idiot kids and their lefty crusade, still more on topic than most threads.
no doubt that's what your NRA masters say.
it simply isn't the law and isn't justified by the law.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
heller says differently. but even heller doesn't say what you want it to say.
and the perversion that is the NRA's propaganda on the 2nd is pathetic.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
Exactly! That's why the 2nd Amendment said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".......moron.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia. the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
it was supposed to let you fight FOR the government. that's why treason is the only law outlined in the constitution.
dumbass.
Well..this article was more in the line of drawing people's attention to the outright lies and disinformation propagated by Right-wing trolls.I quit the W Post in 1994 because of its racist, pro-democrat bias. Any ‘news’ story supporting these kids and their movement is propaganda.Nope. Unless you believe that the WaPo has an agenda which includes 'outing' ignorant alt/right posters on their BS. Then, yeah, you might be right.This entire thread and its source,the W Post, using kids as political pawns — again — in order to propagate their Marxist agenda.
SOS
Marxist agenda? I don't think you have the first idea of what you are talking about.
BTW..I think it's the kids using the media to propagate their message. Not pawns..but self-actuated and pro-socially active.
***chuckles***As if you get to define...you fuck off...and if you're thirsty..I got some sweaty balls that need licking. You're a case for legalized abortion..just by taking up the oxygen another, more worthy person could be using.This is what the thread is devolving into, don't like it, fuck off.
Lol, triggered. I win
No...due to the inexorable laws of genetics..you lose..always have..and always will.
The only victories you will ever see..are the one's you award yourself.
Rock on
Keep trying to salvage something from your meltdown, it just makes it even more hilarious.
Snowflake.
you're the only one melting down, loony toon.
now go wipe the spittle off of your keyboard.
They have been banned in the past and can be banned againOwning an assault rifle is notAbortion is legal......supporting it is not a crimeowning a gun is a fundemental right, owning a gun is not being a murderer.
Supporting gun rights for law abiding citizens is not murder, nor is it supporting murder.
Almost all guns in the US right now will never kill another human life.
An abortion always kills human life, regardless of if you think a fetus is a person or not.
Murdering school children is
Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.
Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.
If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.
So can High capacity magazines
Right wing trolls are motivated by a backlash against left wing propaganda including the WP.Well..this article was more in the line of drawing people's attention to the outright lies and disinformation propagated by Right-wing trolls.I quit the W Post in 1994 because of its racist, pro-democrat bias. Any ‘news’ story supporting these kids and their movement is propaganda.Nope. Unless you believe that the WaPo has an agenda which includes 'outing' ignorant alt/right posters on their BS. Then, yeah, you might be right.This entire thread and its source,the W Post, using kids as political pawns — again — in order to propagate their Marxist agenda.
SOS
Marxist agenda? I don't think you have the first idea of what you are talking about.
BTW..I think it's the kids using the media to propagate their message. Not pawns..but self-actuated and pro-socially active.
I guess you could infer support...but the facts..still remain the facts..irregardless of spin.
As an aside...do you also term FOX news, Gateway Pundit and InfoWars as propaganda spreading and biased?
the thread is not devolving on it's own. you and your fellow trolls don't like the subject matter of the thread.
so feel free to take your own advice.
It's about the issues surrounding those idiot kids and their lefty crusade, still more on topic than most threads.
no doubt that's what your NRA masters say.
it simply isn't the law and isn't justified by the law.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
heller says differently. but even heller doesn't say what you want it to say.
and the perversion that is the NRA's propaganda on the 2nd is pathetic.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
Exactly! That's why the 2nd Amendment said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".......moron.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia. the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
it was supposed to let you fight FOR the government. that's why treason is the only law outlined in the constitution.
dumbass.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia.
I never claimed I was a militia.
Why do you FEEL that the Founders meant to put the right of the government to bear arms, into the Bill of Rights?
the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
The right to keep and bear arms existed well before governments existed. Moron.
They have been banned in the past and can be banned againOwning an assault rifle is notAbortion is legal......supporting it is not a crime
Murdering school children is
Owning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.
Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.
If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.
So can High capacity magazines
That was unconstitutional.
and considering this shooter used a 10 round standard mag, your whole whining about high cap mags just shows you have an already established agenda.
They have been banned in the past and can be banned againOwning an assault rifle is notOwning a gun is a fundamental right, supporting the right of law abiding citizens to own them is not a crime.
Show me where the NRA advocates murdering school children.
If you mean a semi-automatic rifle, a common rifle technology, then yes, it is.
So can High capacity magazines
That was unconstitutional.
and considering this shooter used a 10 round standard mag, your whole whining about high cap mags just shows you have an already established agenda.
well, if an ignorant loon like you says so... it must be so.
It's about the issues surrounding those idiot kids and their lefty crusade, still more on topic than most threads.
no doubt that's what your NRA masters say.
it simply isn't the law and isn't justified by the law.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
heller says differently. but even heller doesn't say what you want it to say.
and the perversion that is the NRA's propaganda on the 2nd is pathetic.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
Exactly! That's why the 2nd Amendment said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".......moron.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia. the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
it was supposed to let you fight FOR the government. that's why treason is the only law outlined in the constitution.
dumbass.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia.
I never claimed I was a militia.
Why do you FEEL that the Founders meant to put the right of the government to bear arms, into the Bill of Rights?
the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
The right to keep and bear arms existed well before governments existed. Moron.
the right of the government to bear arms? I'm not sure what you mean by that. there was no standing army at the time so well-regulated militias, the reason the 2nd was enacted, were established. the need, of course, disappeared after we raised an army.
I'm also not sure why you think there is no ability to regulate guns when scalia specifically said in heller that there is.
and you can call me a moron until your little head explodes. it makes you sound like an ignorant twit. how about you try to manage to state your position, however incorrect, without making yourself look like a trumpian lowlife.
I bleebs you're conflating the Declaration of Independence with the US Constitution, which was written in 1787. After the war, after Washington's...yes, army...beat the British.It's about the issues surrounding those idiot kids and their lefty crusade, still more on topic than most threads.
no doubt that's what your NRA masters say.
it simply isn't the law and isn't justified by the law.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
heller says differently. but even heller doesn't say what you want it to say.
and the perversion that is the NRA's propaganda on the 2nd is pathetic.
stop whining. until the decision in heller, no one even believed guns were an individual right and for more than two hundred years justices laughed at the idea.
it was about "a well-regulated militia".
Exactly! That's why the 2nd Amendment said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".......moron.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia. the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
it was supposed to let you fight FOR the government. that's why treason is the only law outlined in the constitution.
dumbass.
you left out "well-regulated" idiota. and you aren't a militia.
I never claimed I was a militia.
Why do you FEEL that the Founders meant to put the right of the government to bear arms, into the Bill of Rights?
the 2nd was never supposed to let you fight the gubmint in your little imaginations.
The right to keep and bear arms existed well before governments existed. Moron.
the right of the government to bear arms? I'm not sure what you mean by that. there was no standing army at the time so well-regulated militias, the reason the 2nd was enacted, were established. the need, of course, disappeared after we raised an army.
I'm also not sure why you think there is no ability to regulate guns when scalia specifically said in heller that there is.
and you can call me a moron until your little head explodes. it makes you sound like an ignorant twit. how about you try to manage to state your position, however incorrect, without making yourself look like a trumpian lowlife.
Yeah. Like the ones preventing law enforcement from arresting the shooter after one of the 40 calls they got reporting this guy prior to the death of 17 kids.Laws can be changedObviously they don't since they want current HIPPA laws violated against innocent citizens rather than fix the broken laws that allowed the shooter to evade an arrest after authorities being notified about him over and over and over.Those clueless kids understand when politicians are lying to them and they are not buying into to shameless platitudes.So..you are OK with outright lies? By either side? What does that say about your cause..that lying and defaming children is alright? That your ideals cannot stand on their own in the face of attack?Yeah....you put yourself out there and ya gotta expect blow back. Snot nose kids or not
Oh shut up, anyone that stands up and basically calls for gun bans deserves what they get.
Besides that they are kids who don't have the first clue about life...and judging from their rhetoric when they hit the real world they'll be crushed by it
They want positive action and will not stand for less
Especially when they allow crazy people to buy guns
How the Parkland teens became villains on the right-wing Internet
Shame on all who have engaged in this:
Less than a week after 17 people died in Parkland, Fla., right-wing provocateur Dinesh D’Souza began taunting some of the teenage survivors of the massacre. “Worst news since their parents told them to get summer jobs,” he tweeted on Feb. 20, commenting on a photo showing Parkland survivors crying as state legislators voted down a bill to ban military-style weapons.
D’Souza wrote another tweet, “Adults, 1, kids 0.” Combined, the two tweets have more than 25,000 likes and 8,000 retweets.
[ A fake photo of Emma González went viral on the far right, where Parkland teens are villains ]
Now, five weeks after the Parkland school shooting, D’Souza’s tweets seem almost quaint. As Emma González, David Hogg and the other Parkland teens fighting for gun control have become viral liberal heroes, the teens are villains on the right-wing Internet and fair game for the mockery and attacks that this group usually reserves for its adult enemies.
That infamy reached a wider audience this past weekend around the time of their March for Our Lives protest, when a doctored image that showed González ripping up a copy of the U.S. Constitution (she actually ripped up a gun target) went mildly viral on the Trump-supporting parts of the Internet, defended as “satire” by those who shared it.
"Here’s a look back at how the Parkland student activists became such a target:
Day 1: Conspiracy theorists
The first to target the Parkland students were the conspiracy theorists. When a mass shooting like Parkland happens, conspiracy theorists begin to search for signs of a false flag — proof that the shooting was actually staged and/or carried out for political reasons — pretty much right away. They’re following what online trolling expert Whitney Phillips calls a “tragedy script”: The establishment is trying to take away your guns, they’ll use mass shootings to do that, and here are the tricks they use to manipulate the public. Anything irregular becomes conspiracy fodder.
[ We studied thousands of anonymous posts about the Parkland attack — and found a conspiracy in the making ]
An anonymous 8chan user told the fringe chat board to look for “crisis actors” just 47 minutes after the shooting happened. And if closed chat rooms and fringey boards such as 8chan, 4chan and some subreddits on Reddit are where conspiracy theorists coordinate, then Twitter is where those conspiracy theories — and the harassment that comes with them — are performed for the public. Within hours, anonymous Twitter users were in the mentions of students tweeting from their classrooms during the shooting, accusing them of being part of the conspiracy:
One Twitter thread, made just after midnight on the night of the attack, claimed to contain “Bombshell” information about Parkland. @Magapill (an account once approvingly retweeted by President Trump) shared a video interview with a student that has become the basis of a debunked Parkland conspiracy theory. The thread was retweeted more than 3,000 times.
All this happened before the Parkland students calling for gun control began their ascent to viral iconography. When they emerged, the campaign to discredit and debunk the Parkland students expanded.
Week 2: #MAGA Internet
“EXPOSED: School Shooting Survivor Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines,” read a headline on Gateway Pundit. The article was one of a handful on far-right publications to emerge after the first weekend following the shooting.
Week 2: #MAGA Internet
“EXPOSED: School Shooting Survivor Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines,” read a headline on Gateway Pundit. The article was one of a handful on far-right publications to emerge after the first weekend following the shooting.
[ Algorithms are one reason a conspiracy theory goes viral. Another reason might be you. ]
Hogg, along with González, had found their voices. In one CNN interview, the pair called for the National Rifle Association to “disband.” That interview was on the Monday after the attack. By Tuesday, an aide to Florida state Rep. Shawn Harrison (R-Tampa) was fired for telling a reporter that Hogg and González were “not students … but actors.” As evidence, the aide sent the reporter one of several YouTube videos promoting that conspiracy theory.
Even a former U.S. congressman, Jack Kingston, joined in on Twitter: “O really? ‘Students’ are planning a nationwide rally? Not left-wing gun control activists using 17yr kids in the wake of a horrible tragedy? #Soros #Resistance #Antifa #DNC”
The conspiracy spread quickly, and the algorithms noticed. Soon, a video claiming that Hogg was an actor was the No. 1 trending video on YouTube.
Week 3: Fights with social media companies
In early March, the conspiracy Internet — and some of its Trump supporters — turned the conspiracy theories surrounding the Parkland students into a crusade against what they saw as censorship on major Silicon Valley platforms.
After a conspiracy video trended on YouTube, the platform cracked down on videos and creators who were promoting the false belief that the Parkland students were hired actors or reading from scripts to promote gun control. Enter Alex Jones.
[ How Alex Jones turned the Parkland shooting into a week-long news cycle about himself ]
Jones’s main YouTube channel has more than 2 million subscribers, and he made several videos about Hogg, such as “David Hogg Can’t Remember His Lines In TV Interview,” in the weeks after the shooting.
After CNN reported that the channel was 2 strikes away from a YouTube ban for violating the platform’s community guidelines, Jones started talking about censorship. He claimed his channel was about to be deleted (it wasn’t); he fundraised to support a fight against his enemies. This blitz became a week-long news cycle that captured the attention of Infowars’ supporters and opponents alike.
March for Our Lives: The memes go mainstream
On the eve of the March for Our Lives, the NRA delivered a message to the Parkland students who organized it: “No one would know your names” if a gunman hadn’t killed 17 people at their school, said a host on NRATV.
The Parkland teens, as they took on such a polarizing issue, were always going to have opponents — including from more conservative Parkland students who also survived the massacre. But the deeply personal, conspiracy-minded attacks targeting Hogg, González and their fellow classmate activists have gone from the conspiracy fringes to a larger audience.
And after the viral image of González ripping up the Constitution, Rep. Steve King’s campaign Facebook page (R-Iowa) shared a mocking meme about her. The post refers to a patch of the Cuban flag on her jacket worn during the march:
“This is how you look when you claim Cuban heritage yet don’t speak Spanish and ignore the fact that your ancestors fled the island when the dictatorship turned Cuba into a prison camp, after removing all weapons from its citizens; hence their right to self defense.”
A day after the hoax targeting González went viral, the conservative blog Redstate published — and then updated — an article that falsely implied Hogg might not have been at school during the shooting at all.
“Something doesn’t add up” about Hogg’s whereabouts during the shooting, the original article claimed, focusing on a clip from an upcoming documentary where the student describes going home, grabbing his camera, and returning to interview students.
“It is not possible for him to have been in class and also have been at home, a three-mile bike ride away from campus,” the article concluded. “One of those stories is a lie. Hogg should explain himself, and quickly.”
But the entire premise of the Redstate article was inaccurate. After publication, Redstate published two “updates” at the top of the story, clarifying that the statements they cited as inconsistent were actually describing two separate events, several hours apart. Hogg was definitely on campus at the time of the shooting, and eventually went home and returned to school that evening to interview his gathered classmates just off campus.
No they don't. Which is why they are now crying about the safety measures that might be implemented at their school being against their rights.First you have to know what they are. Which those kids clearly don't.Laws can be changedObviously they don't since they want current HIPPA laws violated against innocent citizens rather than fix the broken laws that allowed the shooter to evade an arrest after authorities being notified about him over and over and over.Those clueless kids understand when politicians are lying to them and they are not buying into to shameless platitudes.Oh shut up, anyone that stands up and basically calls for gun bans deserves what they get.
Besides that they are kids who don't have the first clue about life...and judging from their rhetoric when they hit the real world they'll be crushed by it
They want positive action and will not stand for less
Especially when they allow crazy people to buy guns
They realize more than you give them credit for
Getting shot at will do that
Nothing they are advocating is unconstitutional
