How to Make Health Care More Efficient

[Derek_Plumber]

Stop yacking! Nationalize the Health Care and be done with it!​

 

[Oddball]

oreo, Over the last 70 years I cannot think of one single federal government run program that has been managed well.​

How about these guys?

A letter delivered in a few days, anywhere in the country for a few cents. GM and Chrysler would still be viable if they could pull off a miracle like that!​

Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"

 

[Political Junky]

oreo, Over the last 70 years I cannot think of one single federal government run program that has been managed well.​

How about these guys?

A letter delivered in a few days, anywhere in the country for a few cents. GM and Chrysler would still be viable if they could pull off a miracle like that!​

Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"

Then it seems private insurance should be able to compete with a public plan and make a profit ... don't you think?

 

[Oddball]

Of course, the USPS has also become a HUGE money pit, that hasn't paid for itself in decades.

But you dumbshits g'head and keep on using it as example of "success".

 

[Maple]

Yes and many doctors are starting to refuse to see Medicare and Medicaid patients the reimbursement is horrible.

 

[Maple]

Good lord, the postal service is run well??????????????? You libs gotta be kiddin or you are just flat stupid.

 

[AVG-JOE]

How to Make Health Care More Efficient

Abolish Medicare/Medicaid, and all of their mandates to state programs.

Declare the medical insurance business a field of interstate commerce (hell, virtually everything else has been declared as such), so anyone and everyone can shop for the insurance products they want, rather than what a patchwork of state mandates force insurance companies to provide.

Abolish the FDA, and devolve its functions to a private entity, like Underwriter's Laboratories.

That'd about do it.

You hit the nail on the head, Dude. The article says,

US health care costs are already killing our economy. Prudent people on both the left and the right of the political spectrum worry that universal coverage that further expands these costs may be the final nail in the economy’s coffin.

But it is not the cost of health care that is the problem, it is the cost of the bureaucracy used for tracking the collection of funds from people a little at a time when they're healthy so those funds will be available when they are sick and need to spend a chunk, a.k.a. 'insurance'.

-Joe

 

[AVG-JOE]

Of course, the USPS has also become a HUGE money pit, that hasn't paid for itself in decades.

But you dumbshits g'head and keep on using it as example of "success".

Not true. They receive nada from the taxpayer. They are self sufficient by law.

0 Tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service

USPS - Postal Facts

-Joe

 

[Oddball]

Of course, the USPS has also become a HUGE money pit, that hasn't paid for itself in decades.

But you dumbshits g'head and keep on using it as example of "success".

Not true. They receive nada from the taxpayer. They are self sufficient by law.

0 Tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service

USPS - Postal Facts

-Joe

Huh???...Doesn't "deficit" still mean that you're paying out more than you're taking in??

Post office losing jobs and money - Business - News & Observer



Post office is $1.9 billion in red - USATODAY.com

 

[rdking647]

but they still manage to get a letter across the country for 43c or whatever it cost now. with these forever stamps I dont even know.

 

[editec]

How to Make Health Care More Efficient

Easy.

Kill and eat the sick.

Works well enough for ants.

You don't see them going broke trying to give everyone health care, do ya?

 

[roper1975]

This topic seems to be going in so many directions. The problem with the question of private health insurance competing with the government brand is that everyone will have to pay into the government insurance first no matter if you plan on using it. Doing this will automatically make getting private health insurance unaffordable to those who would like to buy it. That argument is a moot point because it doesn't ask the two most important questions that I haven't heard enough people ask.

First question is on the constitutionality of national health care. What part of the Constitution gives the federal government the authority to enact legislation that would bring about national health care? Before you claim general welfare or necessary and proper clause are both wrong. Necessary and proper can only be used when supporting one of the other enumerated powers. General welfare has been abused for over 80 years to give life to numerous and broad legislation that continually erodes our individual freedom and liberty. Read John Taylor of Carolines book "New Views of the Constitution" if you want to know what the framers and ratifiers meant.

The second question deals with deregulation. In buying health insurance, say company A charged $200 a month, company B charged $75 a month, and company C charged $125 a month. Why is it that if companies B and C were in Indiana and Company A was in Ohio and I lived there I would be unable purchase health insurance from companies B and C? If the laws that prevent people from buying health insurance were to be repealed, the cost of health insurance would decrease because companies would have to compete in the same way that auto insurance companies compete.

Allow the free market to take its course. It will work.

 

[Derek_Plumber]

oreo, Over the last 70 years I cannot think of one single federal government run program that has been managed well.​

How about these guys?

A letter delivered in a few days, anywhere in the country for a few cents. GM and Chrysler would still be viable if they could pull off a miracle like that!​

Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"

Then it seems private insurance should be able to compete with a public plan and make a profit ... don't you think?

Before you write, try Google. The USPS has made profits in recent years, and has shown significant reduction in costs. Overnight services were smart, they identified a need that no one was filling. USPS was unable to fulfill it. Let me know what college you went to so that I can knock it off my son's list of choices!

 

[KittenKoder]

Simple answer, yet it's the only one that will work:

Get rid of the FDA and AMA, sure people will have to *gasp* learn about what they use ... but meh, I did, not that hard.

 

[Derek_Plumber]

According to the World Health Organization, the United States ranks #37 in health care of all nations.

At the same time American health care is the most expensive.

The American Health Care System is dead.

Write your Congressman to Nationalize Healthcare now.​

 

[Oddball]

Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"

Then it seems private insurance should be able to compete with a public plan and make a profit ... don't you think?

Before you write, try Google. The USPS has made profits in recent years, and has shown significant reduction in costs. Overnight services were smart, they identified a need that no one was filling. USPS was unable to fulfill it. Let me know what college you went to so that I can knock it off my son's list of choices!

So, I guess these very mainstream sources are lying.

Post office losing jobs and money - Business - News & Observer

Post office is $1.9 billion in red - USATODAY.com

And here I thought it was da gubbament schools, not colleges, which were supposed to teach kids to read for comprehension.

I'll be sure to knock them off my list of choices.

 

[KittenKoder]

Yeah....They're so efficient and trustworthy that numerous private carriers have sprung up, charging at least twice what the USPS does for overnight service, and are still rollin' in the dough.

Leave it to a brain dead Fabian socialist to use the Post Office as a model of "success"

Then it seems private insurance should be able to compete with a public plan and make a profit ... don't you think?

Before you write, try Google. The USPS has made profits in recent years, and has shown significant reduction in costs. Overnight services were smart, they identified a need that no one was filling. USPS was unable to fulfill it. Let me know what college you went to so that I can knock it off my son's list of choices!

Wait ... what? Babbling is not truth you know. Aside from the great facts Dude posted just before this, you do realize, of course they are cutting costs ... they have no money to spend so they have to. They are obsolete and poorly managed ... the fact that you think they are "doing a good job" ... you are not paying any attention.

Unless you posted sarcasm, you are just dead wrong.

 

[Derek_Plumber]

Wait ... what? Babbling is not truth you know. Aside from the great facts Dude posted just before this, you do realize, of course they are cutting costs ... they have no money to spend so they have to. They are obsolete and poorly managed ... the fact that you think they are "doing a good job" ... you are not paying any attention.

Unless you posted sarcasm, you are just dead wrong.

Hey, I got it, let's get some fat-cat Wall Street banker to run it. Then we can be sure it is run efficiently, and for profit. We can even let the fat-cat and his buddies own it! Maybe capitalism is the answer - not.

Unless you posted sarcasm, you are just dead wrong.

 

[Harry Dresden]

In China, the fellow that headed the company that put the contaminated baby food on the market was summerily shot. We should have done the same for the CEO of the peanunt butter company whose contaminated product killed several people here in the US.

that guy KNEW what was going on Rocks....but what about an honest mistake,should he be shot too?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Go fuck yourself, little boy.

When you dry out behind the ears and start paying some of the freight for your beloved socialistic welfare state, then you can come around singing the praises of a career parasite, like Tanqueray Teddy.

That's the best you've got? And, your playing the Tanqueray Teddy card for the third time? "Dry out behind the ears," now that's original. When you've got something that isn't TRITE find me, and I'll hope for a laugh. You know the members pity you.

TRITE
1. lacking in freshness or effectiveness because of constant use or excessive repetition; hackneyed; stale: the trite phrases in his letter.
2. characterized by hackneyed expressions, ideas, etc.: The commencement address was trite and endlessly long.
3. Archaic. rubbed or worn by use.

were is your little cartoon Derek?.....with out it we are lost...