How will eliminating the Estate Tax benefit the Middle class?

[Dale Smith]

The estate tax is pure robbery. The government is taxing things that have already been taxed. It needs to go period.

lol. Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor.

You think estate taxes go to the poor? Good thinking McFly.

This is the context, dear: The government is taxing things that have already been taxed.

Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor via social programs?

Because I earned it, they did not, but that's beside the point. The point is that it's an unfair tax and should be eliminated altogether.

'an unfair tax'

Taxes on struggling middle class wager earners are 'fair' but taxes on the estate of multi-millionaires are 'unfair'

No- Ivanka and her siblings haven't earned Donald's billions- but under Trump's plans- they certainly will benefit- the Trump family will save about $4 billion dollars in estate taxes under Trump's plans.

Income taxes are unconstitutional and always have been. Why does one that barters their time in one hour increments for federal reserve debt notes be required to pay a fee to the banking oligarchs that extended credit from nothing that created this debt slavery system to begin with?

Of course it all makes sense to a commie fuck such as yourself.

 

[BulletProof]

The estate tax is taxing money that has already been taxed once.

If there is going to be an income tax then everyone with an income should pay the tax.
The only fair income tax is a flat tax[/QUOTE]

Why are so many Republicans total idiots? The estate tax does not tax money that has already been taxed once. As I tried to tell that other f1cking idiot, Spare Change, the estate tax is a substitute for capital gains taxes. If it's eliminated, eliminated, fairness dictates a complicated capital gains tax.

There's nothing fair about a flat tax that would effectively tax people with less money at a higher rate. Even if it could be managed to tax everyone at the same rate, and even if we stipulate that this is "fair", you'd have to be a full-on total retard to also think it "fair" for the government to increase welfare spending, which is exactly what a flat tax would result in.

 

[OnePercenter]

lol. Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor.

You think estate taxes go to the poor? Good thinking McFly.

This is the context, dear: The government is taxing things that have already been taxed.

Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor via social programs?

Because I earned it, they did not, but that's beside the point. The point is that it's an unfair tax and should be eliminated altogether.

'an unfair tax'

Taxes on struggling middle class wager earners are 'fair' but taxes on the estate of multi-millionaires are 'unfair'

No- Ivanka and her siblings haven't earned Donald's billions- but under Trump's plans- they certainly will benefit- the Trump family will save about $4 billion dollars in estate taxes under Trump's plans.

Income taxes are unconstitutional and always have been. Why does one that barters their time in one hour increments for federal reserve debt notes be required to pay a fee to the banking oligarchs that extended credit from nothing that created this debt slavery system to begin with?

Of course it all makes sense to a commie fuck such as yourself.

WAKE UP! It's not the year 1780.

Your Libertarianism is making you stupid.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor.

You think estate taxes go to the poor? Good thinking McFly.

This is the context, dear: The government is taxing things that have already been taxed.

Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor via social programs?

Because I earned it, they did not, but that's beside the point. The point is that it's an unfair tax and should be eliminated altogether.

so what; you are not the first one to earn that money; it was already earned, at least once.

Why is it unfair? Why shouldn't the wealthy be taxed the most, since they have the most? Capitalism is about using money to pay the finest taxes money can buy for our Republic.

How many times that particular dollar was earned is irrelevant.

I told you three times why it's unfair. You just aren't smart enough to understand.

Why not? Why whine about taxes.

 

[Dale Smith]

You think estate taxes go to the poor? Good thinking McFly.

This is the context, dear: The government is taxing things that have already been taxed.

Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor via social programs?

Because I earned it, they did not, but that's beside the point. The point is that it's an unfair tax and should be eliminated altogether.

'an unfair tax'

Taxes on struggling middle class wager earners are 'fair' but taxes on the estate of multi-millionaires are 'unfair'

No- Ivanka and her siblings haven't earned Donald's billions- but under Trump's plans- they certainly will benefit- the Trump family will save about $4 billion dollars in estate taxes under Trump's plans.

Income taxes are unconstitutional and always have been. Why does one that barters their time in one hour increments for federal reserve debt notes be required to pay a fee to the banking oligarchs that extended credit from nothing that created this debt slavery system to begin with?

Of course it all makes sense to a commie fuck such as yourself.

WAKE UP! It's not the year 1780.

Your Libertarianism is making you stupid.

A progressive income tax is one of the planks of the communist manifesto, dipshit. Any time you think you might have the brass ones to take me on in a debate on what is really going on? Be sure and let me know....thus far not a single leftard has dared to go "toe to toe" with me in a debate. Step up to the plate if you dare.

 

[Spare_change]

Now, here is a piece of stupid liberal logic.

Let's see ...

1) In order to take advantage of a tax break, you must be paying taxes.

2) The more taxes you pay, the more the break is going to benefit you.

3) Your very own leftist reference "Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community" shows that all tax brackets will realize a benefit, even those who don't pay any taxes.

4) Then, it makes a spurious claim that 1 in 4 middle class families would end up with higher tax bills. Of course, it offers no proof. It just throws it out on the floor.

Then, behind a relentless screed of stupidity and ignorance, they throw out emotional bombshells about tax cuts while they are proposing spending cuts. OMG!!! Cut government spending AND taxes? However will we survive?

Get a grip on reality ....

There is absolutely no reason to give tax breaks to the most well off people in this country. Giving tax breaks to people who don't need it is nuts! The last thing we need to be doing, is giving more money to the richest 1% of the country. And the fact that you are advocating this, at the expense of 99% of the country, makes you not only an inhuman piece of shit, but a dumbass as well, because you are also a member of the 99.

Frankly, you don't know what the hell you're talking about .... and, clearly, you're not the least bit interested in learning. You are comfortable in your little cocoon of ignorance.

I feel bad about the day reality hits you in the face ... it will be a cruel awakening.

 

[jasonnfree]

Tax free up to 5 million seems like a pretty good tax break to me. I'd be happy to get the 5 million and then have to pay taxes on the rest of it.

The Dems have proposed confiscating everything over 5 million. How would you feel about that??

I believe the proposal is the first 5 million tax free, then the rest taxed at the regular rate.

 

[BulletProof]

Now, here is a piece of stupid liberal logic.

Let's see ...

1) In order to take advantage of a tax break, you must be paying taxes.

2) The more taxes you pay, the more the break is going to benefit you.

3) Your very own leftist reference "Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community" shows that all tax brackets will realize a benefit, even those who don't pay any taxes.

4) Then, it makes a spurious claim that 1 in 4 middle class families would end up with higher tax bills. Of course, it offers no proof. It just throws it out on the floor.

Then, behind a relentless screed of stupidity and ignorance, they throw out emotional bombshells about tax cuts while they are proposing spending cuts. OMG!!! Cut government spending AND taxes? However will we survive?

Get a grip on reality ....

There is absolutely no reason to give tax breaks to the most well off people in this country. Giving tax breaks to people who don't need it is nuts! The last thing we need to be doing, is giving more money to the richest 1% of the country. And the fact that you are advocating this, at the expense of 99% of the country, makes you not only an inhuman piece of shit, but a dumbass as well, because you are also a member of the 99.

Frankly, you don't know what the hell you're talking about .... and, clearly, you're not the least bit interested in learning. You are comfortable in your little cocoon of ignorance.

I feel bad about the day reality hits you in the face ... it will be a cruel awakening.

Oh look, our resident ignoramus is still telling others that they don't know what they're talking about. What a hoot! Trump's tax breaks target the 1% and leave everyone else out. But, sh1t-for-brains Spare_change keeps telling people that the middle-class are getting tax cuts, even after he's been told repeatedly why he's wrong.

 

[Dale Smith]

Now, here is a piece of stupid liberal logic.

Let's see ...

1) In order to take advantage of a tax break, you must be paying taxes.

2) The more taxes you pay, the more the break is going to benefit you.

3) Your very own leftist reference "Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community" shows that all tax brackets will realize a benefit, even those who don't pay any taxes.

4) Then, it makes a spurious claim that 1 in 4 middle class families would end up with higher tax bills. Of course, it offers no proof. It just throws it out on the floor.

Then, behind a relentless screed of stupidity and ignorance, they throw out emotional bombshells about tax cuts while they are proposing spending cuts. OMG!!! Cut government spending AND taxes? However will we survive?

Get a grip on reality ....

There is absolutely no reason to give tax breaks to the most well off people in this country. Giving tax breaks to people who don't need it is nuts! The last thing we need to be doing, is giving more money to the richest 1% of the country. And the fact that you are advocating this, at the expense of 99% of the country, makes you not only an inhuman piece of shit, but a dumbass as well, because you are also a member of the 99.

Frankly, you don't know what the hell you're talking about .... and, clearly, you're not the least bit interested in learning. You are comfortable in your little cocoon of ignorance.

I feel bad about the day reality hits you in the face ... it will be a cruel awakening.

Oh look, our resident ignoramus is still telling others that they don't know what they're talking about. What a hoot! Trump's tax breaks target the 1% and leave everyone else out. But, sh1t-for-brains Spare_change keeps telling people that the middle-class are getting tax cuts, even after he's been told repeatedly why he's wrong.

STFU, moron....you are THE last person here that should be preaching to the masses about "gubermint" stealing from our labor when it is our sweat equity that moves this fiat currency to begin with. What you don't know could fill many libraries.

 

[westwall]

It doesnt create jobs lol
I wonder how kids with not a lot of money pay for their families estate?

The estate pays the tax.

So lets say your mommy and daddy are worth $10 million dollars- and both die in a tragic automobile accident.

You inherit all $10 million dollars free and clear- because the joint exemption for your parents wealth is $10.98 million

Now if your parents are worth $20 million- their estate will have to pay estate taxes on approximately $9 million- and you will get the $11 million + plus the balance of the $9 million after taxes.

How will eliminating that tax create jobs or help the middle class- both which the Republicans and Trump have said this tax change is intended to do?

Yes, the estate pays the tax, which in many cases means the inheritance is lost to the State. The middle class has a net worth under 5 million dollars. Thus, under the trump plan the middle class is exempt from the death tax. Why do you want to harm the middle class?

 

[Spare_change]

Now, here is a piece of stupid liberal logic.

Let's see ...

1) In order to take advantage of a tax break, you must be paying taxes.

2) The more taxes you pay, the more the break is going to benefit you.

3) Your very own leftist reference "Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community" shows that all tax brackets will realize a benefit, even those who don't pay any taxes.

4) Then, it makes a spurious claim that 1 in 4 middle class families would end up with higher tax bills. Of course, it offers no proof. It just throws it out on the floor.

Then, behind a relentless screed of stupidity and ignorance, they throw out emotional bombshells about tax cuts while they are proposing spending cuts. OMG!!! Cut government spending AND taxes? However will we survive?

Get a grip on reality ....

There is absolutely no reason to give tax breaks to the most well off people in this country. Giving tax breaks to people who don't need it is nuts! The last thing we need to be doing, is giving more money to the richest 1% of the country. And the fact that you are advocating this, at the expense of 99% of the country, makes you not only an inhuman piece of shit, but a dumbass as well, because you are also a member of the 99.

Frankly, you don't know what the hell you're talking about .... and, clearly, you're not the least bit interested in learning. You are comfortable in your little cocoon of ignorance.

I feel bad about the day reality hits you in the face ... it will be a cruel awakening.

Oh look, our resident ignoramus is still telling others that they don't know what they're talking about. What a hoot! Trump's tax breaks target the 1% and leave everyone else out. But, sh1t-for-brains Spare_change keeps telling people that the middle-class are getting tax cuts, even after he's been told repeatedly why he's wrong.

You got a lot of class ... unfortunately, it's kindergarten class.

Go study the proposal ....

 

[Billo_Really]

Frankly, you don't know what the hell you're talking about .... and, clearly, you're not the least bit interested in learning. You are comfortable in your little cocoon of ignorance.

I feel bad about the day reality hits you in the face ... it will be a cruel awakening.

Fuck you, fuck Trump and fuck this bullshit tax plan.

 

[Billo_Really]

STFU, moron....you are THE last person here that should be preaching to the masses about "gubermint" stealing from our labor when it is our sweat equity that moves this fiat currency to begin with. What you don't know could fill many libraries.

What's your position on this tax plan?

 

[danielpalos]

The inheritance tax should pay down the debt. If you don't want the Tax, be finer Capitalists and insist your public servants learn how let us live off the interest on the interest, in the finest Capital manner and fashion possible. Fine Capitalists, do.

 

[Conservative65]

. . .
Now if your parents are worth $20 million- their estate will have to pay estate taxes on approximately $9 million- and you will get the $11 million + plus the balance of the $9 million after taxes.

How will eliminating that tax create jobs or help the middle class- both which the Republicans and Trump have said this tax change is intended to do?

Have you ever had any sort of a cash windfall in your life?

Have you ever won a bunch of money or fond some?

A lot of people have. Myself, included.

Guess what "those" people tend to do with their windfalls?

They BUY shit. They take trips. They INVEST in other opportunities. They donate to charities.

ALL of which is a benefit to the middle class.

People like Syriusly think a portion of that should go to those that won't get off the couch to fix a meal for themselves.

People like Conservative think that Americans of the wrong skin color shouldn't be treated like Americans.

You think people of whatever skin color owe some lazy piece of shit that won't do for him/herself something for nothing.

If you lazy ass won't work, I don't give a shit what color you are. If you won't do for yourself, you deserve to do without. I find that on a per capita basis, blacks tend to fit the bills far more often than others.

 

[OnePercenter]

This is the context, dear: The government is taxing things that have already been taxed.

Money has been earned at least once; why complain about giving it to the poor via social programs?

Because I earned it, they did not, but that's beside the point. The point is that it's an unfair tax and should be eliminated altogether.

'an unfair tax'

Taxes on struggling middle class wager earners are 'fair' but taxes on the estate of multi-millionaires are 'unfair'

No- Ivanka and her siblings haven't earned Donald's billions- but under Trump's plans- they certainly will benefit- the Trump family will save about $4 billion dollars in estate taxes under Trump's plans.

Income taxes are unconstitutional and always have been. Why does one that barters their time in one hour increments for federal reserve debt notes be required to pay a fee to the banking oligarchs that extended credit from nothing that created this debt slavery system to begin with?

Of course it all makes sense to a commie fuck such as yourself.

WAKE UP! It's not the year 1780.

Your Libertarianism is making you stupid.

A progressive income tax is one of the planks of the communist manifesto, dipshit. Any time you think you might have the brass ones to take me on in a debate on what is really going on? Be sure and let me know....thus far not a single leftard has dared to go "toe to toe" with me in a debate. Step up to the plate if you dare.

A flat tax raises taxes for the wealthy. Won't happen.

 

[OnePercenter]

It doesnt create jobs lol
I wonder how kids with not a lot of money pay for their families estate?

The estate pays the tax.

So lets say your mommy and daddy are worth $10 million dollars- and both die in a tragic automobile accident.

You inherit all $10 million dollars free and clear- because the joint exemption for your parents wealth is $10.98 million

Now if your parents are worth $20 million- their estate will have to pay estate taxes on approximately $9 million- and you will get the $11 million + plus the balance of the $9 million after taxes.

How will eliminating that tax create jobs or help the middle class- both which the Republicans and Trump have said this tax change is intended to do?

Yes, the estate pays the tax, which in many cases means the inheritance is lost to the State. The middle class has a net worth under 5 million dollars. Thus, under the trump plan the middle class is exempt from the death tax. Why do you want to harm the middle class?

If the estate tax is a percentage of the whole, how can it be lost to the State?

FYI, the 5M exception was signed into law by Obama in 2012.

 

[Political Junky]

It's "Trickle Down" yet again.

 

[Dale Smith]

Because I earned it, they did not, but that's beside the point. The point is that it's an unfair tax and should be eliminated altogether.

'an unfair tax'

Taxes on struggling middle class wager earners are 'fair' but taxes on the estate of multi-millionaires are 'unfair'

No- Ivanka and her siblings haven't earned Donald's billions- but under Trump's plans- they certainly will benefit- the Trump family will save about $4 billion dollars in estate taxes under Trump's plans.

Income taxes are unconstitutional and always have been. Why does one that barters their time in one hour increments for federal reserve debt notes be required to pay a fee to the banking oligarchs that extended credit from nothing that created this debt slavery system to begin with?

Of course it all makes sense to a commie fuck such as yourself.

WAKE UP! It's not the year 1780.

Your Libertarianism is making you stupid.

A progressive income tax is one of the planks of the communist manifesto, dipshit. Any time you think you might have the brass ones to take me on in a debate on what is really going on? Be sure and let me know....thus far not a single leftard has dared to go "toe to toe" with me in a debate. Step up to the plate if you dare.

A flat tax raises taxes for the wealthy. Won't happen.

Income taxes are the very thing that people came here to get away from. Taxing one's labor is bullshit and unconstitutional. There was no income tax until 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was passed.

 

[sartre play]

If I got 600 thousand dollars with out having to do a single hour of work would be quite pleased. if I had to pay taxes on what ever was more than 600 thousand that went to those fools that mishandle our tax dollars, would try and content my self with the hope that some of those dollars would go to fixing a road or a bridge, you know one of those places that hire American workers, & make it easier to get to work. Taxes are a bummer, but a needed one. corporations don't build roads or bridges unless they make a profit.I have very little concern for multi millionaires & billionaires. they never miss a meal, stand on there feet an extra 2 hours working some overtime to help pay bills & taxes.