Huma Abedin broke the law by forwarding classified materials to her husband. He had no clearance...

[2aguy]

Yep......another clinton minion who should be in jail....huma and her sexual predator husband....

Weiner raised again

In response to a question posed by Senator Feinstein, Comey testified regarding the infamous laptop of the infamous Anthony Weiner: “Somehow, [Clinton’s] emails were being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information, by [Clinton’s] assistant, Huma Abedin. And so [the FBI] found thousands of new emails.” Comey explained: “[Weiner’s] then-spouse [sic] Huma Abedin appears to have had a regular practice of forwarding emails to him for him to print out for her so she could deliver them to the secretary of state.” The Washington Post’s account of Comey’s testimony is posted here along with the video below.

When will she be arrested?

 

[Sunni Man]

Since it involves a Clinton.....nothing will happen.

Ya gotta remember, they are above the law. .....

 

[Lewdog]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

 

[depotoo]

Yep and as I stated in another thread, he knew he was stuck-

Well, considering Comey also got hold of an email where Loretta Lynch stated she would do pretty much anything to keep the investigation from going very far....he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. That is one of the reasons he came forward with the info he did the way he did.

Since it involves a Clinton.....nothing will happen.

Ya gotta remember, they are above the law. .....

 

[depotoo]

He said trying to prove intent was difficult, particularly when the ag had stated she would keep the investigation from getting very far, in an email he got access to.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

 

[depotoo]

Read the full testimony of FBI Director James Comey in which he discusses Clinton email investigation
Washington Post · 2 hours ago
The email reportedly provided assurances that Attorney General Lynch would protect Secretary Clinton by...

 

[airplanemechanic]

Is Lynch the one that Clinton met in the back of the airplane in the secret meeting?

 

[depotoo]

Yes

Is Lynch the one that Clinton met in the back of the airplane in the secret meeting?

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Proving mens rea was not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Gowdy Rips FBI Director Comey On 'Intent'

 

[Lewdog]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

Since forever faggot he is a former prosecutor, mens rea is not a serious defense, if it were killing someone while drinking and driving would not be a prosecutable offense you fucking moron.

 

[sealybobo]

Yep......another clinton minion who should be in jail....huma and her sexual predator husband....

Weiner raised again

In response to a question posed by Senator Feinstein, Comey testified regarding the infamous laptop of the infamous Anthony Weiner: “Somehow, [Clinton’s] emails were being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information, by [Clinton’s] assistant, Huma Abedin. And so [the FBI] found thousands of new emails.” Comey explained: “[Weiner’s] then-spouse [sic] Huma Abedin appears to have had a regular practice of forwarding emails to him for him to print out for her so she could deliver them to the secretary of state.” The Washington Post’s account of Comey’s testimony is posted here along with the video below.

When will she be arrested?

I remember during the race for president Trump admitted he told his wife shit. She wasn't cleared either in fact she may even be a russian spy. Why else would a beautiful woman marry that orange monster?

 

[Lewdog]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

Since forever faggot he is a former prosecutor, mens rea is not a serious defense, if it were killing someone while drinking and driving would not be a prosecutable offense you fucking moron.

You are totally clueless. You are equating a drinking and driving offense to something that has to do with the handling of classified materials.

 

[westwall]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

When he reads it and doesn't ignore the relevant part. Any person can do it. You just need to be able to READ.

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

Since forever faggot he is a former prosecutor, mens rea is not a serious defense, if it were killing someone while drinking and driving would not be a prosecutable offense you fucking moron.

You are totally clueless. You are equating a drinking and driving offense to something that has to do with the handling of classified materials.

No I am making the point that mens rea is almost always impossible to prove, I'll just let Trey Gowdy take you to task like he did to Comey like he was a first year law student:

"You say she was “extremely careless,” but not intentionally so. Now, you and I both know intent is really difficult to prove. Very rarely do defendants announce, “On this day, I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this day.” It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence — or, if you’re Congress, and you realize how difficult it is to prove specific intent, you will formulate a statute that allows for “gross negligence.”

Comey literally had to use the synonymys of "extreme carelessness," in place of "gross negligence," when making his excuse not to press charges.

 

[Lewdog]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

Since forever faggot he is a former prosecutor, mens rea is not a serious defense, if it were killing someone while drinking and driving would not be a prosecutable offense you fucking moron.

You are totally clueless. You are equating a drinking and driving offense to something that has to do with the handling of classified materials.

No I am making the point that mens rea is almost always impossible to prove, I'll just let Trey Gowdy take you to task like he did to Comey like he was a first year law student:

"You say she was “extremely careless,” but not intentionally so. Now, you and I both know intent is really difficult to prove. Very rarely do defendants announce, “On this day, I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this day.” It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence — or, if you’re Congress, and you realize how difficult it is to prove specific intent, you will formulate a statute that allows for “gross negligence.”

Comey literally had to use the synonymys of "extreme carelessness," in place of "gross negligence," when making his excuse not to press charges.

Hey fuck stick, do you understand that different laws hold different standards for prosecution? If you are texting and driving and run over someone and kill them, are you going to be charged with the same count as if you break into someone's house and blow their brains out? The end result of killing someone is the same... but are you going to be charged the same? No.

Comey is the fucking Director of the FBI. He knows the laws regarding mishandling of classified information much better than Gowdy. Gowdy was a federal prosecutor for short period of time in South Carolina. Please show me how many times he prosecuted someone for mishandling classified material... now how many times do you think Comey deals with the same issue?

I'm sorry to tell you this, but most laws do require two factors in order to prosecute, and that is mens rea (guilty mind, intent) and actus reus (criminal act).

 

[Lewdog]

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

When he reads it and doesn't ignore the relevant part. Any person can do it. You just need to be able to READ.

Straight from the law itself:

"(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—"

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

The standard of mens rea is spelled out clearly in the law.

 

[depotoo]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found. And you can't claim they didn't knowingly transmit classified information across unsecured lines.
.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

 

[Lewdog]

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.

 

[depotoo]

I included this, you can't claim they didn't knowingly transmit classified information over unsecured lines.

Here is the law as written today-

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes
• Authorities (CFR)

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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)
concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2)
concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3)
concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4)
obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b)
As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)
Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)
any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B)
any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2)
The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).


Intent is nowhere to be found.
.

Comey already said today they did an investigation and they decided not to press charges because they couldn't prove mens rea.

Mens rea is not a condition of the fucking statute dipshit, Gowdy debunked that line of Comeys bullshit months ago.

Hey dipshit, Comey repeated it again today in the hearing. So since when does Gowdy know the laws better than the head of the FBI?

It's written in the very first line... "Knowing and willfully" describes intent.