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Then the question should have asked if he had ever been to rehab or received treatment. That wasn’t the question. He and I bet thousands of others that checked NO on that form can easily say that they had problems in the past but are good now. I don’t see how it can be proven otherwise in court. So now the question is do you want to reword that question and ask everybody applying for a gun about their past experiences with substances?If you had substance abuse problems but only you and your family knew, then you have a point. But Hunter is on record of having problems and answered no. It's on his military record, it's on his laptop, it's on record with a rehab center. The guy has dope problems.
He does have a history of it dating back to his military days. If I am a user, I can answer that question as 'No, I'm not using drugs" I used drugs yesterday, I'll use them again tonight, but I currently am not using drugs if you want to get into semantics.
Then the question should have asked if he had ever been to rehab or received treatment. That wasn’t the question. He and I bet thousands of others that checked NO on that form can easily say that they had problems in the past but are good now. I don’t see how it can be proven otherwise in court. So now the question is do you want to reword that question and ask everybody applying for a gun about their past experiences with substances?
And the question is worded in such a way that semantics comes in to play. Personally I think it was done that way be design.
Sure they can....with proper due process.shall not be infringed!!!
they can ask but they cant use the answer to restrict your rights,,
Great questions and exactly why I’m making the point that there is no way to prove he lied in court. The question is too ambiguous. You could say he’s an addict because he went to rehab 5 years ago. He could say he had a wild past but is clean and sober at the time of the application. You can’t prove that he was lying. There’s nothing thereI don't care either way because I never had a dope problem. Beer problem? That I have.
But what we're discussing here is not how the question was worded, if it's constitutional or not, if it should be changed. The question is did he break the law or not by answering no? And if you believe he answered correctly, what is the time frame when you're not considered an addict once you stop? Two days? A week? Four months? What?
Then the question should be removed from the application since it's totally meaningless.
did you seriously just ask me if a person in prison can have a gun??? god I hope you didnt,,,Sure they can....with proper due process.
Seriously, you think an inmate has a right to own a gun? Geez...
All your rights can be taken away, even your life....with proper due process. Due process of course is not always the same, it depends on what is being taken...if it's simply temporay...like...ok, you just need to get clean...it's not nearly as much as required if the Govt wants to take your liberty, or life
Great questions and exactly why I’m making the point that there is no way to prove he lied in court. The question is too ambiguous. You could say he’s an addict because he went to rehab 5 years ago. He could say he had a wild past but is clean and sober at the time of the application. You can’t prove that he was lying. There’s nothing there
yeah...so you think someone in prison should be able to get a gun, because "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"did you seriously just ask me if a person in prison can have a gun??? god I hope you didnt,,,
wheres due process when youre denied a right because of a questionnaire???
the phrase is
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED,,
are you saying people in prison havent gone through due process??yeah...so you think someone in prison should be able to get a gun, because "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
You're right isn't denied because of a questionaire.....that's simply the start of the due process
Ok, so you want to disqualify anybody from owning a gun if they have ever been in rehab or recovery? Then Ask that question on the form or make it part of the BG check. Let’s see how that idea goes over.I think he lied simply because of his history with drugs. Let's face it, once you have a problem with recreational narcotics, you always have a problem because you're fighting the desires the rest of your life and many people have lost that battle. My cousins son died from an OD at the age of 27. He's been in and out of rehab several times since his mid teens. He could quit for several months, but finally couldn't fight it any longer.
I think the main reason for these questions is so we don't allow people with such problems from owning a gun. They've already proven themselves irresponsible. For instance throwing your gun into a dumpster very near a school.
You must have graduated at the top of your class.If I remember correctly, (Joe) Biden IS a member of the Biden administration.
Sources: Secret Service inserted itself into case of Hunter Biden’s gun
The bizarre incident involved a trash can, a man searching for recyclables and, eventually, federal law enforcement.www.politico.com
To obtain a fire arm, Hunter was asked if he took any illegal substances
He answer no and later tested positive for them. Therefore, he lied.
But according to this article, this felony is common place and basically never enforced
So if we do not enforce the gun laws we have, why make more?
Right and that's why the Taliban was still fielding Soviet BMP2's in 2001Army Major Rob Lodewick said, "Nearly all equipment used by U.S. military forces in Afghanistan was either retrograded or destroyed prior to our withdrawal."
It quickly becomes non-operation due to lack of maintenance.
its also old tech.
What exactly do you want to push back on with this case? How are you going to prove he lied on that form?Democrats, liberal extremists, dupes, sheep, apologists, and snowflakes tell you 'no one cares' and for you not to care.
So when are you going to stop listening and start pushing back?
You don't get a choice on the ATF 4473 it's a yes or no question.The question is whether Hunter committed a felony by how he filled out that form. Do you think he did and do you think it’s a provable case?
What exactly do you want to push back on with this case? How are you going to prove he lied on that form.
Correct and the question is ambiguous so good luck proving somebody lied. Are they talking about current status or past? If past, how far in the past?You don't get a choice on the ATF 4473 it's a yes or no question.
Don’t put words in my mouth, enforce all the gun laws you like. I never said otherwise.Oh ok so you don't want our current gun laws enforced? And you don't support the new push for enhanced background checks? Snap said the trap to the rat.
