Hur Hearing Backfires on Republicans

[MagicMike]

The hearing proved that Biden did far worse with respect to handling of classified documents than Trump ever did. The fact that Biden WILL skate illustrates the blatant Democrat bias of the US Justice system. The Democrats are wrecking the most important institutions of America and that is by design.

Fake news.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yet it's perfectly legal to destroy before it becomes subject to legal seizure. Example: A wanted terrorist gets a latte from starbucks, and leaves his fingerprints (evidence) on the cup. He throws the cup in the trash. The donut with his DNA on it (evidence). He disposes of that too by swallowing it. And the receipt for a donut and a latte (evidence) he throws in the trash with his empty cup.

QED

But we're not talking about donuts and lattes.
We're talking about recordings that have been produced or discovered by investigators that shows evidence of wrong-doing.

You can still charge someone for throwing away something that has prints on it if you did it with the intent to conceal.

 

[mudwhistle]

Fake news.

No, news you won't accept because you're a faggot.

 

[postman]

1. Trump kept everything he had in a secure area under Secret Service protection.

Hillary Clinton had her e-mail server under Secret Service protection at all times.

 

[postman]

Oh, so you're calling Hur a liar now?

Fuck you

Hur is like a kid who turned in a term paper, who doesn't even know what the report says, until the teacher points it out to him.

That was Hur before the congressional committee.

 

[Godboy]

Fake news.

Weak rebuttel.

 

[postman]

Bull shit.

Evidence is something or anything that shows proof of something.
It doesn't have to be filed or entered into court docs to be called evidence.
It can be called direct testimony which is evidence or hearsay evidence.
It doesn't have to be something that a clerk or a lawyer put under seal or documented.

Clearly you cocksuckers want to change the fucking meaning of words to get a desired outcome.

It has to be the subject of an investigation (or likely investigation) or under some other legal sanction against tampering with or destroying it. Example, a company that routinely reuses surveillance media.

 

[0311]

Hillary Clinton had her e-mail server under Secret Service protection at all times.

Have you noticed that when they no real argument left to make, they pull out HRC. HRC had nothing to do with yesterday's hearing, but he had no real agrument so he tossed out HRC.

 

[postman]

I know what mens rea means. It's one of the first God Damned definitions you learn in Paralegal school.
And when it comes to criminal intent, attempting to dispose of or destroy evidence is mens rea.

For example, trying to switch places with a drunk who was driving shows criminal intent after an officer stops them for speeding.
The very act or the attempt shows criminal intent.

Yet switching places with a driver, who was the getaway driver for a bank robbery the previous day (that you weren't part of) is perfectly legal.

 

[MagicMike]

Biden had classified documents from when he was Senator.

Biden's case is not the same as Trump's case as yesterday's testimony confirmed.

From the outset of the hearing, the strategy was apparent. Nadler used his opening statement to make a distinction between Biden’s cooperation with Hur’s probe and Trump’s refusal to turn over classified materials to the National Archives after leaving the White House.

Nadler said Trump was not charged because of “some vast conspiracy,” but because he was “fundamentally incapable of taking advantage of even one of the many, many chances he was given to avoid those charges.”

“What kind of man bungles not one but dozens of opportunities to avoid criminal liability? What does that say about his mental state? Here, too, the record speaks for itself,” he said, adding later that Trump should “think twice before accusing others of cognitive decline.”

Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) asked Hur point by point if Biden directed his lawyer to lie for him, directed assistants to move boxes of classified materials, deleted security camera footage or showed a classified map to a campaign aide, all of which Trump is accused of doing.

Special counsel Hur gets hammered by lawmakers: 5 takeaways

Special counsel Robert Hur appeared before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, where he defended and explained the findings of his investigation into President Biden’s handling of classified …

thehill.com

 

[jc456]

Not if that authority was given to "Dick Cheney" as mudwhistle claims.

well if not in office, isn't VP. derp!!!!

 

[postman]

But we're not talking about donuts and lattes.
We're talking about recordings that have been produced or discovered by investigators that shows evidence of wrong-doing.

You can still charge someone for throwing away something that has prints on it if you did it with the intent to conceal.

We're talking about fingerprint and DNA evidence.

 

[Lisa558]

Ronald Reagan also kept classified materials after he left the white house. The Reagan Diaries.

The judge's order, requiring Mr. Reagan to produce diary entries for 29 dates in 1985 and 1986, is an important victory for Mr. Poindexter. His lawyers have argued that Mr. Reagan's diaries are vital in helping the defense demonstrate that the former President authorized Mr. Poindexter's activities in the Iran-contra affair.

the former national security adviser may still face difficulties in trying to use the diary entries in court because the material is classified. As such, the excerpts are subject to the Classified Information Procedures Act, which could permit the Attorney General to prohibit their disclosure on national security grounds.[/b]

Yeah, duh….he was president and had the right to do it.

But Senator Biden took them illegally and then instructed his ghost writer to hide the evidence. He’d be in deep doo-doo if he weren’t so demented he’s incompetent to stand trial.

 

[MagicMike]

Weak rebuttel.

Rebuttal?

 

[jc456]

They are the committeee that could not find shit.

they found obstruction and providing someone not authorized to see classified material. Are you suggesting creepy is above the law?

 

[Lisa558]

they found obstruction and providing someone not authorized to see classified material. Are you suggesting creepy is above the law?

The excuses these leftists make for Biden’s crimes while seeking to imprison Trump for doing much less is surreal. What has happened to Americans?

 

[postman]

well if not in office, isn't VP. derp!!!!

Muswhistle claimed the Bush gave the authority to "Dick Cheney", not to the "vice president"

Argue with the guy who claims the authority was given to Dick Cheney.
Because he knows it was given to the "vice president", whether Dick Cheney or the next guy (Joseph R. Biden)

 

[Care4all]

However the two situations aren't the same.
Biden wasn't president when this took place.
Trump was president.
Speaking of details....you really blew that one.

The difference that sticks out more than anything, is that this corrupt DOJ is bringing charges against a president for what he had full authority to do, but choosing not to bring charges against someone who didn't have that authority. And to top it off they're using a lame excuse at that.

From all of my training it doesn't matter if you're a forgetful asshole who neglected to protect classified material. Being incompetent and careless has never been a valid excuse before now.

Trump was not President, when he committed the crimes he was charged with....

 

[MagicMike]

That's what democrats said until they were informed that Biden had classified documents.

Trump is unfit for the job. Trump is charged with crimes for refusing to cooperate with the recovery of classified documents to their rightful owner, The National Archives.
Biden is not being charged because he wilfully returned the items.
Anything else I can clear up for you?
Now stop your whining snowflake.

 

[postman]

Yeah, duh….he was president and had the right to do it.

But Senator Biden took them illegally and then instructed his ghost writer to hide the evidence. He’d be in deep doo-doo if he weren’t so demented he’s incompetent to stand trial.

Actually that is a derivative right, because the material was derivative, and not an original source. It contained no classification markings. They were his personal notes. And although they should not have contained classified material, they never the less did.

That's for both the Ronald Reagan, and the Joseph Biden diaries.