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[kaz]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

I was referring to the whole process of taking him down, stopping him from getting into the car, and having the wrestling match you wanted. You boiled that down to tripping him. If you want to address the whole point than do it, but I'm not bickering with you, old woman. Note I'm barely in this stupid conversation anymore

Tackling a person from behind is not the same as tripping him.

How fucking stupid are you anyway?

Now you're just bickering. Pass

And you're just being an idiot

Yes, you think you get 10 points for tripping him and then he's going to roll on his back and let you cuff him, like Steve Garrett did on TV last week.

Talk about a fucking idiot

You don't even know the difference between tackling and tripping.


And who is Steve Garret?

Like I said I don't watch the idiot box like you do

You wrote "And who is Steve Garret?"

I think the name is "Steve McGarrett"..
Steve McGarrett is a fictional character who is the protagonist of CBS' Hawaii Five-O. McGarrett is a former United States Navy officer and the leader of a special state police task force, which is called Five-O.
McGarrett was famously portrayed by Jack Lord in the original show from 1968 to 1980,
and later by Alex O'Loughlin in the series' remake from 2010- 2018.

Wow you must watch a lot of TV

I do and I use the Internet as evidently YOU don't as the above wasn't from me but from Wikipedia which you might want to use to get facts...not subject guesses.

As you pointed out I would have had to have known that the character's name wasn't Steve Garret as the person I was responding to said it was.

So really a Google search of Steve Garret would not have given me any info about some TV show I never heard of now would it?

Why don't you try it. the Internet when combined with common sense is very helpful.
I've been using the Internet since 1988 and before that was a frequent library visitor.
Facts are what help me make decisions along with common sense.
Attached is an example of how a little common sense combined with using the Internet shows how some really impactful decisions are made that affect us all. Remember... the operative word is "consumed" and because the lack of attention to small details LIKE the word "consumed" affect us all.
This was first used in 2018.View attachment 384755

You think I care enough about a TV show to worry if some actor plays a guy named Garret or whatever?

At least get the characters name right, it was Steve McGarrett, originally played by Jack Lord and revived by Alex O'Loughlin in 2010.

.

Pay attention will you?

Someone else called that character Steve Garret

And as i said I never heard of the stupid show so I care even less what the character's or the actors names

If you just said you don't/didn't watch the show, that would be believable. Saying you never heard of it isn't. The original show was a classic. It was before my time and I never watched it. I did watch some of the remake. But that you never heard of it unless you grew up in a different country or just in a Louisiana swamp off the grid is not believable.

Sit for a second and admit to yourself that sure, you heard of the show. You heard the term "Book him, Dano." Now think about how unbelievable it is to say no, never heard of it. It's not believable. Start by being honest

 

[Blues Man]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

I was referring to the whole process of taking him down, stopping him from getting into the car, and having the wrestling match you wanted. You boiled that down to tripping him. If you want to address the whole point than do it, but I'm not bickering with you, old woman. Note I'm barely in this stupid conversation anymore

Tackling a person from behind is not the same as tripping him.

How fucking stupid are you anyway?

Now you're just bickering. Pass

And you're just being an idiot

Yes, you think you get 10 points for tripping him and then he's going to roll on his back and let you cuff him, like Steve Garrett did on TV last week.

Talk about a fucking idiot

You don't even know the difference between tackling and tripping.


And who is Steve Garret?

Like I said I don't watch the idiot box like you do

You wrote "And who is Steve Garret?"

I think the name is "Steve McGarrett"..
Steve McGarrett is a fictional character who is the protagonist of CBS' Hawaii Five-O. McGarrett is a former United States Navy officer and the leader of a special state police task force, which is called Five-O.
McGarrett was famously portrayed by Jack Lord in the original show from 1968 to 1980,
and later by Alex O'Loughlin in the series' remake from 2010- 2018.

Wow you must watch a lot of TV

I do and I use the Internet as evidently YOU don't as the above wasn't from me but from Wikipedia which you might want to use to get facts...not subject guesses.

As you pointed out I would have had to have known that the character's name wasn't Steve Garret as the person I was responding to said it was.

So really a Google search of Steve Garret would not have given me any info about some TV show I never heard of now would it?

Why don't you try it. the Internet when combined with common sense is very helpful.
I've been using the Internet since 1988 and before that was a frequent library visitor.
Facts are what help me make decisions along with common sense.
Attached is an example of how a little common sense combined with using the Internet shows how some really impactful decisions are made that affect us all. Remember... the operative word is "consumed" and because the lack of attention to small details LIKE the word "consumed" affect us all.
This was first used in 2018.View attachment 384755

You think I care enough about a TV show to worry if some actor plays a guy named Garret or whatever?

At least get the characters name right, it was Steve McGarrett, originally played by Jack Lord and revived by Alex O'Loughlin in 2010.

.

Pay attention will you?

Someone else called that character Steve Garret

And as i said I never heard of the stupid show so I care even less what the character's or the actors names

If you just said you don't/didn't watch the show, that would be believable. Saying you never heard of it isn't. The original show was a classic. It was before my time and I never watched it. I did watch some of the remake. But that you never heard of it unless you grew up in a different country or just in a Louisiana swamp off the grid is not believable.

Sit for a second and admit to yourself that sure, you heard of the show. You heard the term "Book him, Dano." Now think about how unbelievable it is to say no, never heard of it. It's not believable. Start by being honest

Like I said IDGAF what you believe

I don't know the names of lots of TV shows and have no desire to learn them

So now have you found a post where I was defending Jacob Blake yet?

And don't bother to reply to my posts until you admit you lied about what I posted here.

I have no time for dishonest pieces of shit

 

[kaz]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

I was referring to the whole process of taking him down, stopping him from getting into the car, and having the wrestling match you wanted. You boiled that down to tripping him. If you want to address the whole point than do it, but I'm not bickering with you, old woman. Note I'm barely in this stupid conversation anymore

Tackling a person from behind is not the same as tripping him.

How fucking stupid are you anyway?

Now you're just bickering. Pass

And you're just being an idiot

Yes, you think you get 10 points for tripping him and then he's going to roll on his back and let you cuff him, like Steve Garrett did on TV last week.

Talk about a fucking idiot

You don't even know the difference between tackling and tripping.


And who is Steve Garret?

Like I said I don't watch the idiot box like you do

You wrote "And who is Steve Garret?"

I think the name is "Steve McGarrett"..
Steve McGarrett is a fictional character who is the protagonist of CBS' Hawaii Five-O. McGarrett is a former United States Navy officer and the leader of a special state police task force, which is called Five-O.
McGarrett was famously portrayed by Jack Lord in the original show from 1968 to 1980,
and later by Alex O'Loughlin in the series' remake from 2010- 2018.

Wow you must watch a lot of TV

I do and I use the Internet as evidently YOU don't as the above wasn't from me but from Wikipedia which you might want to use to get facts...not subject guesses.

As you pointed out I would have had to have known that the character's name wasn't Steve Garret as the person I was responding to said it was.

So really a Google search of Steve Garret would not have given me any info about some TV show I never heard of now would it?

Why don't you try it. the Internet when combined with common sense is very helpful.
I've been using the Internet since 1988 and before that was a frequent library visitor.
Facts are what help me make decisions along with common sense.
Attached is an example of how a little common sense combined with using the Internet shows how some really impactful decisions are made that affect us all. Remember... the operative word is "consumed" and because the lack of attention to small details LIKE the word "consumed" affect us all.
This was first used in 2018.View attachment 384755

You think I care enough about a TV show to worry if some actor plays a guy named Garret or whatever?

At least get the characters name right, it was Steve McGarrett, originally played by Jack Lord and revived by Alex O'Loughlin in 2010.

.

Pay attention will you?

Someone else called that character Steve Garret

And as i said I never heard of the stupid show so I care even less what the character's or the actors names

If you just said you don't/didn't watch the show, that would be believable. Saying you never heard of it isn't. The original show was a classic. It was before my time and I never watched it. I did watch some of the remake. But that you never heard of it unless you grew up in a different country or just in a Louisiana swamp off the grid is not believable.

Sit for a second and admit to yourself that sure, you heard of the show. You heard the term "Book him, Dano." Now think about how unbelievable it is to say no, never heard of it. It's not believable. Start by being honest

Like I said IDGAF what you believe

I don't know the names of lots of TV shows and have no desire to learn them

So now have you found a post where I was defending Jacob Blake yet?

And don't bother to reply to my posts until you admit you lied about what I posted here.

I have no time for dishonest pieces of shit

Hawaii Five O is not just a TV show, it's part of American culture. That's why it's so unbelievable.

"Book him Dano" again is a term used WAY beyond the TV show.

And the term "Five Oh" actually is a slang for "Police."

We aren't talking about a TV show. We are talking about American culture and you claim not to have heard of it even though you grew up in this country. Lots of people know those terms who never saw the show. No one grew up here without ever having heard of the show.

You're being fake shallow. If you claim to not know who Walker Texas Ranger is, maybe you're just a young guy, but it's possible. But you don't know American culture and you grew up here? No.

And yes, as I say every other time, you are blaming the cop for Blake's choice. You want the cop to die to save a guy who assaults women, ignored a restraining order and had a warrant out for him. That is clearly defending Blake

 

[Blues Man]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

I was referring to the whole process of taking him down, stopping him from getting into the car, and having the wrestling match you wanted. You boiled that down to tripping him. If you want to address the whole point than do it, but I'm not bickering with you, old woman. Note I'm barely in this stupid conversation anymore

Tackling a person from behind is not the same as tripping him.

How fucking stupid are you anyway?

Now you're just bickering. Pass

And you're just being an idiot

Yes, you think you get 10 points for tripping him and then he's going to roll on his back and let you cuff him, like Steve Garrett did on TV last week.

Talk about a fucking idiot

You don't even know the difference between tackling and tripping.


And who is Steve Garret?

Like I said I don't watch the idiot box like you do

You wrote "And who is Steve Garret?"

I think the name is "Steve McGarrett"..
Steve McGarrett is a fictional character who is the protagonist of CBS' Hawaii Five-O. McGarrett is a former United States Navy officer and the leader of a special state police task force, which is called Five-O.
McGarrett was famously portrayed by Jack Lord in the original show from 1968 to 1980,
and later by Alex O'Loughlin in the series' remake from 2010- 2018.

Wow you must watch a lot of TV

I do and I use the Internet as evidently YOU don't as the above wasn't from me but from Wikipedia which you might want to use to get facts...not subject guesses.

As you pointed out I would have had to have known that the character's name wasn't Steve Garret as the person I was responding to said it was.

So really a Google search of Steve Garret would not have given me any info about some TV show I never heard of now would it?

Why don't you try it. the Internet when combined with common sense is very helpful.
I've been using the Internet since 1988 and before that was a frequent library visitor.
Facts are what help me make decisions along with common sense.
Attached is an example of how a little common sense combined with using the Internet shows how some really impactful decisions are made that affect us all. Remember... the operative word is "consumed" and because the lack of attention to small details LIKE the word "consumed" affect us all.
This was first used in 2018.View attachment 384755

You think I care enough about a TV show to worry if some actor plays a guy named Garret or whatever?

At least get the characters name right, it was Steve McGarrett, originally played by Jack Lord and revived by Alex O'Loughlin in 2010.

.

Pay attention will you?

Someone else called that character Steve Garret

And as i said I never heard of the stupid show so I care even less what the character's or the actors names

If you just said you don't/didn't watch the show, that would be believable. Saying you never heard of it isn't. The original show was a classic. It was before my time and I never watched it. I did watch some of the remake. But that you never heard of it unless you grew up in a different country or just in a Louisiana swamp off the grid is not believable.

Sit for a second and admit to yourself that sure, you heard of the show. You heard the term "Book him, Dano." Now think about how unbelievable it is to say no, never heard of it. It's not believable. Start by being honest

Like I said IDGAF what you believe

I don't know the names of lots of TV shows and have no desire to learn them

So now have you found a post where I was defending Jacob Blake yet?

And don't bother to reply to my posts until you admit you lied about what I posted here.

I have no time for dishonest pieces of shit

Hawaii Five O is not just a TV show, it's part of American culture. That's why it's so unbelievable.

"Book him Dano" again is a term used WAY beyond the TV show.

And the term "Five Oh" actually is a slang for "Police."

We aren't talking about a TV show. We are talking about American culture and you claim not to have heard of it even though you grew up in this country. Lots of people know those terms who never saw the show. No one grew up here without ever having heard of the show.

You're being fake shallow. If you claim to not know who Walker Texas Ranger is, maybe you're just a young guy, but it's possible. But you don't know American culture and you grew up here? No.

And yes, as I say every other time, you are blaming the cop for Blake's choice. You want the cop to die to save a guy who assaults women, ignored a restraining order and had a warrant out for him. That is clearly defending Blake

don't bother to reply to my posts until you admit you lied about what I posted here.

I have no time for dishonest pieces of shit

 

[kaz]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

I was referring to the whole process of taking him down, stopping him from getting into the car, and having the wrestling match you wanted. You boiled that down to tripping him. If you want to address the whole point than do it, but I'm not bickering with you, old woman. Note I'm barely in this stupid conversation anymore

Tackling a person from behind is not the same as tripping him.

How fucking stupid are you anyway?

Now you're just bickering. Pass

And you're just being an idiot

Yes, you think you get 10 points for tripping him and then he's going to roll on his back and let you cuff him, like Steve Garrett did on TV last week.

Talk about a fucking idiot

You don't even know the difference between tackling and tripping.


And who is Steve Garret?

Like I said I don't watch the idiot box like you do

You wrote "And who is Steve Garret?"

I think the name is "Steve McGarrett"..
Steve McGarrett is a fictional character who is the protagonist of CBS' Hawaii Five-O. McGarrett is a former United States Navy officer and the leader of a special state police task force, which is called Five-O.
McGarrett was famously portrayed by Jack Lord in the original show from 1968 to 1980,
and later by Alex O'Loughlin in the series' remake from 2010- 2018.

Wow you must watch a lot of TV

I do and I use the Internet as evidently YOU don't as the above wasn't from me but from Wikipedia which you might want to use to get facts...not subject guesses.

As you pointed out I would have had to have known that the character's name wasn't Steve Garret as the person I was responding to said it was.

So really a Google search of Steve Garret would not have given me any info about some TV show I never heard of now would it?

Why don't you try it. the Internet when combined with common sense is very helpful.
I've been using the Internet since 1988 and before that was a frequent library visitor.
Facts are what help me make decisions along with common sense.
Attached is an example of how a little common sense combined with using the Internet shows how some really impactful decisions are made that affect us all. Remember... the operative word is "consumed" and because the lack of attention to small details LIKE the word "consumed" affect us all.
This was first used in 2018.View attachment 384755

You think I care enough about a TV show to worry if some actor plays a guy named Garret or whatever?

At least get the characters name right, it was Steve McGarrett, originally played by Jack Lord and revived by Alex O'Loughlin in 2010.

.

Pay attention will you?

Someone else called that character Steve Garret

And as i said I never heard of the stupid show so I care even less what the character's or the actors names

If you just said you don't/didn't watch the show, that would be believable. Saying you never heard of it isn't. The original show was a classic. It was before my time and I never watched it. I did watch some of the remake. But that you never heard of it unless you grew up in a different country or just in a Louisiana swamp off the grid is not believable.

Sit for a second and admit to yourself that sure, you heard of the show. You heard the term "Book him, Dano." Now think about how unbelievable it is to say no, never heard of it. It's not believable. Start by being honest

Like I said IDGAF what you believe

I don't know the names of lots of TV shows and have no desire to learn them

So now have you found a post where I was defending Jacob Blake yet?

And don't bother to reply to my posts until you admit you lied about what I posted here.

I have no time for dishonest pieces of shit

Hawaii Five O is not just a TV show, it's part of American culture. That's why it's so unbelievable.

"Book him Dano" again is a term used WAY beyond the TV show.

And the term "Five Oh" actually is a slang for "Police."

We aren't talking about a TV show. We are talking about American culture and you claim not to have heard of it even though you grew up in this country. Lots of people know those terms who never saw the show. No one grew up here without ever having heard of the show.

You're being fake shallow. If you claim to not know who Walker Texas Ranger is, maybe you're just a young guy, but it's possible. But you don't know American culture and you grew up here? No.

And yes, as I say every other time, you are blaming the cop for Blake's choice. You want the cop to die to save a guy who assaults women, ignored a restraining order and had a warrant out for him. That is clearly defending Blake

don't bother to reply to my posts until you admit you lied about what I posted here.

I have no time for dishonest pieces of shit

As soon as I take orders from you, then I'll do that.

When a guy has his hand in his car where he could clearly grab a gun and if he did the cop is dead speaks for itself. You're the liar.

When you make someone jump off a diving board but say you don't want them to go into the water, you're being completely disingenuous. You set up a situation where if guy has gun, cop is dead. You need to own the consequences of your choices, like Blake

 

[JoeB131]

Eventually.

And again you defend the worst kind of people, someone who'd been convicted of home evasion, family battery, felony cruelty to children and other crimes. He was on probation and would have stayed in jail. Yet you blame the police.

Yes, I blame the police for using excessive force in that situation. I actually think that civil rights belong to all of us, not just white libertarians who throw a hissy fit when they are told they can't go to Applebees.

Just like Blake who sexually assaulted a woman and then violated her restraining order. Funny how the left media never has her on TV.

Again, she's the mother of several of his children. My guess, she'll drop all the charges because she'll want a share of that sweet, sweet settlement money Blake is going to get from Kenosha.

But since you brought up Blake.

Blake- Shot in the back seven times for merely reaching into his car.
Rittenhouse- Shoots three people walks past five police cars with a gun and a crowd of people yelling "he's the shooter", is allowed to go home after his mommy picks him up.

 

[kaz]

Eventually.

And again you defend the worst kind of people, someone who'd been convicted of home evasion, family battery, felony cruelty to children and other crimes. He was on probation and would have stayed in jail. Yet you blame the police.

Yes, I blame the police for using excessive force in that situation. I actually think that civil rights belong to all of us, not just white libertarians who throw a hissy fit when they are told they can't go to Applebees.

Just like Blake who sexually assaulted a woman and then violated her restraining order. Funny how the left media never has her on TV.

Again, she's the mother of several of his children. My guess, she'll drop all the charges because she'll want a share of that sweet, sweet settlement money Blake is going to get from Kenosha.

But since you brought up Blake.

Blake- Shot in the back seven times for merely reaching into his car.
Rittenhouse- Shoots three people walks past five police cars with a gun and a crowd of people yelling "he's the shooter", is allowed to go home after his mommy picks him up.

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So a felon who puts police in danger by reaching into his car is the same as going to Appleby's. Racists really do make terrible arguments, Joe

 

[80zephyr]

Liberals who claim that Jason Blake was shot unjustly (which probably is all liberals in this forum), please answer this >.

If YOU were a police officer, and you were questioning somebody about a serious crime, and he suddenly bolts away from you, and then reaches into a car, with his hands now not visible to you, what do you do ?

Lol you and the cop are such pussies. I guess you feel tough with a gun - I don’t know. Either way, the guy didn’t have a gun so your point is stupid.

In 1960 a police Sargent in New York was killed by a homeless man wielding a knife. And the stabbing happened AFTER the cop and his partner unloaded their revolvers into him.

After his death, police depts across the country used his death as a teachable moment, and they understood that if an assailant is within 15 feet of you and attacks, you can get killed...even with a knife.

Mark

Bullshit.

Sergeant Edward J. Johnson, Jr., New York City Police Department, New York

www.odmp.org

 

[danielpalos]

Liberals who claim that Jason Blake was shot unjustly (which probably is all liberals in this forum), please answer this >.

If YOU were a police officer, and you were questioning somebody about a serious crime, and he suddenly bolts away from you, and then reaches into a car, with his hands now not visible to you, what do you do ?

Make sure he knows he is now resisting the law and contempt for the law will be an additional charge. Then use cuffs to start taking him into custody before he can open the door to the vehicle.

 

[danielpalos]

Liberals who claim that Jason Blake was shot unjustly (which probably is all liberals in this forum), please answer this >.

If YOU were a police officer, and you were questioning somebody about a serious crime, and he suddenly bolts away from you, and then reaches into a car, with his hands now not visible to you, what do you do ?

Lol you and the cop are such pussies. I guess you feel tough with a gun - I don’t know. Either way, the guy didn’t have a gun so your point is stupid.

In 1960 a police Sargent in New York was killed by a homeless man wielding a knife. And the stabbing happened AFTER the cop and his partner unloaded their revolvers into him.

After his death, police depts across the country used his death as a teachable moment, and they understood that if an assailant is within 15 feet of you and attacks, you can get killed...even with a knife.

Mark

Bullshit.

Sergeant Edward J. Johnson, Jr., New York City Police Department, New York

www.odmp.org

Body armor should have been worn by the police; socialism is about socializing costs.

 

[esalla]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

no it's more like 95% of it

No...it’s like 5% of it and not as easy as you think. Ever been in a fight? Real tough fight?

Yeah I've been in fights. I grew up in the shit end of a city and am well acquainted with violence. I know that 2 guys can almost always take down one unarmed guy.



2 cops armed with various weapons and trained to physically subdue people should always be able to take down one unarmed guy.

You're obviously lying since you take two guys fighting a wanted felon who had walked through two taser shots so cavalierly. Anyone who had been in a real fight would have realized how risky and dangerous that is

Haha. How do you know he cavalierly walked through two tasers?! Did you get that from the same source that told you he “raced around the car” and that the cops had a “bad angle” to take him down when they were directly behind him?

You still have yet to state what you would do if you were one of the police officers. Don’t hate the player hate the game. Police officers aren’t trained to wrestle suspects. They are actually trained not to. Don’t allow facts in the way of your moral thinking...

I’ve answered it several times now. Stop trolling

You said “tackle” and then ran it back and then said they need more training. Which is it?

All of the above

So you don’t know. Fantastic. Then stop criticizing the police officers and critique the system.

I know what happened was wrong. Whether the responsibility is on the cops for mishandling per their training or not is what needs to be determined and acted upon

7 shots to the back is never right

Platitude arguments are never right

Letting this dork hold a gun is also not right

Why? Then you can't beat him up?

I do not know if I could beat up an 8 year old in a police uniform. Shit I might be on the ground LMFAO

 

[Slade3200]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

no it's more like 95% of it

No...it’s like 5% of it and not as easy as you think. Ever been in a fight? Real tough fight?

Yeah I've been in fights. I grew up in the shit end of a city and am well acquainted with violence. I know that 2 guys can almost always take down one unarmed guy.



2 cops armed with various weapons and trained to physically subdue people should always be able to take down one unarmed guy.

You're obviously lying since you take two guys fighting a wanted felon who had walked through two taser shots so cavalierly. Anyone who had been in a real fight would have realized how risky and dangerous that is

Haha. How do you know he cavalierly walked through two tasers?! Did you get that from the same source that told you he “raced around the car” and that the cops had a “bad angle” to take him down when they were directly behind him?

You still have yet to state what you would do if you were one of the police officers. Don’t hate the player hate the game. Police officers aren’t trained to wrestle suspects. They are actually trained not to. Don’t allow facts in the way of your moral thinking...

I’ve answered it several times now. Stop trolling

You said “tackle” and then ran it back and then said they need more training. Which is it?

All of the above

So you don’t know. Fantastic. Then stop criticizing the police officers and critique the system.

I know what happened was wrong. Whether the responsibility is on the cops for mishandling per their training or not is what needs to be determined and acted upon

You can't spin your way out of that the sexual assaulter who violated his victim's restraining order that you're defending had the choice, not the cops you wanted to be killed for your leftist ideology

I don’t want any cops to be killed. Another ridiculous lie you’re telling

No but you also don’t want to give them credit for a difficult job

I’ve worked with cops for years and they have an extremely difficult job and I give them a tremendous amount of credit. They have a huge responsibility but that doesn’t mean I won’t call out people who abuse their power

So it's OK then you want to get cops killed because you're protecting a guy who beats women then ignores the restraining order because you think it helps your political beliefs. Swell guy you are

No of course not. Do you have a learning deficiency? I never said anything close to what you pretend I’m saying. I don’t want the cops to get killed and the only thing I’m defending that guy of is from getting 7 bullets in the back. He should have been arrested

And the sexual assaulter you're protecting should have obeyed the cops. It's on him.

You'd suddenly get that if it weren't for the orange many you hate so much

In what way have I protected Blake?

I've also said that he should have obeyed the police and he should have been arrested for not obeying. I don't know what Trump has to do with any of this, are you bringing him up because you don't have anything else to fling at this debate?

Blake was being arrested if he obeyed. There was a warrant out for his arrest and he violated the restraining order to stay away from his sexual assault victim.

You're protecting the sexual predator by supporting him resisting arrest and blaming the cops for his choices

I don’t support him resisting arrest nor have I ever said anything of the sort. This is you lying again. Prove me wrong and show the quote where I supported him resisting arrest

 

[Slade3200]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

I was referring to the whole process of taking him down, stopping him from getting into the car, and having the wrestling match you wanted. You boiled that down to tripping him. If you want to address the whole point than do it, but I'm not bickering with you, old woman. Note I'm barely in this stupid conversation anymore

Tackling a person from behind is not the same as tripping him.

How fucking stupid are you anyway?

Now you're just bickering. Pass

And you're just being an idiot

Yes, you think you get 10 points for tripping him and then he's going to roll on his back and let you cuff him, like Steve Garrett did on TV last week.

Talk about a fucking idiot

You don't even know the difference between tackling and tripping.


And who is Steve Garret?

Like I said I don't watch the idiot box like you do

You wrote "And who is Steve Garret?"

I think the name is "Steve McGarrett"..
Steve McGarrett is a fictional character who is the protagonist of CBS' Hawaii Five-O. McGarrett is a former United States Navy officer and the leader of a special state police task force, which is called Five-O.
McGarrett was famously portrayed by Jack Lord in the original show from 1968 to 1980,
and later by Alex O'Loughlin in the series' remake from 2010- 2018.

Wow you must watch a lot of TV

kaz: You watch a lot of TV

Blues: No YOU watch a lot of TV, kaz

Blues: healthmyths, wow, you watch a lot of TV

LOL, playground

Hey you're the guy who is comparing life to some TV show not me.

If you know characters names in a bunch of TV shows then you do watch a lot of TV.

But I guess you even got that name of the character wrong so you not only watch a lot of TV you're too dim to remember the characters

Yes, you are a firm playground denizen. No you are!

I said two of the stars of popular police dramas and got one of the names wrong. Wow, that's a lot of TV! Yeah, dumb ass. You really are lame. No wonder you're just protecting a sexual assaulter against the police

So tell me

if I don't know what police shows you are talking about or the characters or the actors who play those characters and you do then who watches more TV me or you?

And I have never said one single thing that could even be called a defense of Blake.

if you think I then please find the post and quote it. And when you can't find any post where I did come to the defense of Blake I wonder if you'll have the integrity to admit you just lied about what I have said in this thread.

She won’t show anything. She makes false claims all the time and never back them up

LOL, now the leftist manly man used calling someone a "woman" as an insult. Of course you do. You're the knuckle dragging party who thinks women aren't smart enough to decide who to vote for on their own, so you pat them on the back if they are correct and destroy them like the bitches they are if they are wrong. Being called a woman by you is a badge of honor, Neanderthal

Huh? What do women have to do with any of this? I seriously have doubts about your mental stability.

Slade: What do women have to do that I'm protecting a guy who assaulted a woman and violated her restraining order?

I'll go with the butt obvious

I’m not protecting anybody. You should stop making stuff up

 

[protectionist]

Make sure he knows he is now resisting the law and contempt for the law will be an additional charge. Then use cuffs to start taking him into custody before he can open the door to the vehicle.

Th question pertains to after he had already reached into the vehicle, with his hands disappearing out of sight.

 

[danielpalos]

Make sure he knows he is now resisting the law and contempt for the law will be an additional charge. Then use cuffs to start taking him into custody before he can open the door to the vehicle.

Th question pertains to after he had already reached into the vehicle, with his hands disappearing out of sight.

No, it doesn't. He should have been placed into custody before he got to the vehicle.

 

[protectionist]

You purposely ignored a lot of several key points.
1. if he was holding a knife in his hand. By all means shoot him right there on the spot. No question ask.

2. they never said he was holding a knife. Local LEO conducting the investigation did not mentioned he was holding a knife. Link below.

3. he just brawled or scuffled with 3 cops. Why didn’t they shoot him right there if he has a knife. And how in the hell he even have a knife at that point?

4. Blake said he has a knife but it didn’t say he was holding a knife in his hand. He has a knife in his car. That is why the witness said he heard drop the knife but he didn’t see the knife.

Family, investigators and police offer starkly different views of Jacob Blake in wake of police shooting

Jacob Blake captured the attention of civil rights advocates around the world last week as cellphone video circulated of the 29-year-old man being shot seven times.

abcnews.go.com

Several competing narratives have emerged in the wake of the shooting, including official accounts of the incident issued by Kenosha police and the Wisconsin Department of Justice, the agency charged with investigating the shooting.
The agency said Blake told authorities that he had a knife in his possession. Investigators later recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard of Blake's vehicle. The Wisconsin DOJ has not said whether Blake was holding that knife during his interaction with police.

Knife is irrelevant.

 

[protectionist]

No, it doesn't. He should have been placed into custody before he got to the vehicle.

That wasn't the question. Maybe you need stronger glasses. Here is the question again >>>

If YOU were a police officer, and you were questioning somebody about a serious crime, and he suddenly bolts away from you, and then reaches into a car, with his hands now not visible to you, what do you do ?

 

[danielpalos]

No, it doesn't. He should have been placed into custody before he got to the vehicle.

That wasn't the question. Maybe you need stronger glasses. Here is the question again >>>

If YOU were a police officer, and you were questioning somebody about a serious crime, and he suddenly bolts away from you, and then reaches into a car, with his hands now not visible to you, what do you do ?

Why should I accept your view? Begging the question is usually considered a fallacy. He should have been placed into custody before he reached the vehicle. There were several officers present.

 

[protectionist]

Why should I accept your view? Begging the question is usually considered a fallacy. He should have been placed into custody before he reached the vehicle. There were several officers present.

Maybe so, but that's OFF TOPIC. The topic of this OP is AFTER his hands disappeared - for which police SOP all across America, is to shoot immediately. You got here late. We've been all though this. See Post # 139.

And what do you mean by "view" ? I haven't expressed any view.

 

[protectionist]

Might be interesting to note that since this OP was written, 2 posters have disagreed (with what ? I asked a QUESTION).....

and 20 have clicked Thanks.