I Can't Wait

[g5000]

I would not be the least surprised to hear a member of the Constitution Party demonstrate an undying wish to such Trump's toad-dick.

I've seen enough hypocrisy from pseucocons on this forum to be totally cynical about people tossing their principles right out the window when they fall under the sway of a soulless huckster like Lyin' Donald.

 

[g5000]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

Like I said. Far right Christians. They would ban gay marriage in a heartbeat.

They would probably also ban gambling if they could.

And working on Sundays.

 

[progressive hunter]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

 

[progressive hunter]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

Like I said. Far right Christians. They would ban gay marriage in a heartbeat.

They would probably also ban gambling if they could.

And working on Sundays.

please step away from the kool-aid

 

[g5000]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

Our Constitution does not have biblical foundations.

It was built on deism and a foundation laid down by the writings of John Locke.

 

[g5000]

“Reason, which is that Law, teaches all Mankind, who would but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his Life, Health, Liberty, or Possessions.” - John Locke

 

[progressive hunter]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

Our Constitution does not have biblical foundations.

It was built on deism and a foundation laid down by the writings of John Locke.

LIAR

 

[OldLady]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are already wrong. Under secular law.
If you want to talk about constitutional boundaries, I believe there is something in there about NOT involving religion in the laws established by our government.

What's wrong with jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations? Just look at the countries that are already doing that, with the Koran. The Bible advocates cutting off a hand to stop a person from thieving. Stoning a woman to death for adultery. etc. Those are "jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations." Or could be. We are no longer Puritans. They lived in a closed, intolerant community and I would hate to be back in those days.

 

[progressive hunter]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are already wrong. Under secular law.
If you want to talk about constitutional boundaries, I believe there is something in there about NOT involving religion in the laws established by our government.

What's wrong with jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations? Just look at the countries that are already doing that, with the Koran. The Bible advocates cutting off a hand to stop a person from thieving. Stoning a woman to death for adultery. etc. Those are "jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations." Or could be. We are no longer Puritans. They lived in a closed, intolerant community and I would hate to be back in those days.

thats why they said foundation and not principles or doctrine,,,
and lying cheating stealing and murder are not secular but religious beliefs
whether you like it or not this country was founded on Judaeo christian values,,,

 

[OldLady]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are already wrong. Under secular law.
If you want to talk about constitutional boundaries, I believe there is something in there about NOT involving religion in the laws established by our government.

What's wrong with jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations? Just look at the countries that are already doing that, with the Koran. The Bible advocates cutting off a hand to stop a person from thieving. Stoning a woman to death for adultery. etc. Those are "jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations." Or could be. We are no longer Puritans. They lived in a closed, intolerant community and I would hate to be back in those days.

thats why they said foundation and not principles or doctrine,,,
and lying cheating stealing and murder are not secular but religious beliefs
whether you like it or not this country was founded on Judaeo christian values,,,

I believe what you just wrote me pretty much argues that there is no need to "restore" jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations. We've already got it except killing the queers, right?

 

[progressive hunter]

I googled the Party, and it says this:
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutionalboundaries.

The thing about restoring American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations sounds too much like radical you-know-who's to me.

WHATS WRONG WITH BIBLICAL FOUNDATIONS???

its not like they are saying people would be required to do anything biblical, just that lying cheating ,stealing and murder are wrong


and what about the constitutional boundaries???

Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are already wrong. Under secular law.
If you want to talk about constitutional boundaries, I believe there is something in there about NOT involving religion in the laws established by our government.

What's wrong with jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations? Just look at the countries that are already doing that, with the Koran. The Bible advocates cutting off a hand to stop a person from thieving. Stoning a woman to death for adultery. etc. Those are "jurisprudence restored to its Biblical foundations." Or could be. We are no longer Puritans. They lived in a closed, intolerant community and I would hate to be back in those days.

thats why they said foundation and not principles or doctrine,,,
and lying cheating stealing and murder are not secular but religious beliefs
whether you like it or not this country was founded on Judaeo christian values,,,

I believe what you just wrote me pretty much argues that there is no need to "restore" jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations. We've already got it except killing the queers, right?

whos talking about killing queers???

and youre the one that was arguing foundations not me,,, my point was constitutional limitations

 

[Wry Catcher]

As I watch the two major parties cater more and more to the fringes, it is just a matter of time before a new major party comes along which caters to the intelligent, critically thinking people who have rejected both of the current major parties.

I cannot wait for that day.

As we watch billionaires toy with the idea of running as independents, it is just a matter of time before some of them pool their money to supply the necessary resources to get a new major party off the ground.

Then we can truly make America great again. Then it will be a new morning in America.

that party already exist,,,

its called the constitution party

They must really hate Trump.

not sure they have ever said,,,but they do love and respect the constitution

They hate gambling. Bigly.

And they hate adulterers. And they hate Executive Orders.

And they hate tariffs imposed by anybody other than Congress.

It's all right there in their platform!

So they MUST hate Trump for pretty much all the same reasons I do.

For the Record:

"Gambling increases crimes, destroys families, grows governmental bureaucracies, exploits those who are addicted and leaches the economic prosperity out of our communities. We are opposed to government sponsorship, involvement in or promotion of gambling such as lotteries, casinos or subsidization of Native American casinos."
Platform

by inference the Constitution Party opposes Native American's and thus supports the Casino's in Atlantic City, Las Vegas and other states wherein they can accept campaign donations from them, that includes Sheldon Adelson.

 

[Papageorgio]

Every person who is clamoring for more parties ought to be clamoring for campaign finance reform instead.

Fools.

McCain had a CFR bill passed and it gave us the damn Citizens United ruling. Congress is incompetent and would not go against their best interests, so it is doubtful we would ever get a good CFR bill.

 

[progressive hunter]

As I watch the two major parties cater more and more to the fringes, it is just a matter of time before a new major party comes along which caters to the intelligent, critically thinking people who have rejected both of the current major parties.

I cannot wait for that day.

As we watch billionaires toy with the idea of running as independents, it is just a matter of time before some of them pool their money to supply the necessary resources to get a new major party off the ground.

Then we can truly make America great again. Then it will be a new morning in America.

that party already exist,,,

its called the constitution party

They must really hate Trump.

not sure they have ever said,,,but they do love and respect the constitution

They hate gambling. Bigly.

And they hate adulterers. And they hate Executive Orders.

And they hate tariffs imposed by anybody other than Congress.

It's all right there in their platform!

So they MUST hate Trump for pretty much all the same reasons I do.

For the Record:

"Gambling increases crimes, destroys families, grows governmental bureaucracies, exploits those who are addicted and leaches the economic prosperity out of our communities. We are opposed to government sponsorship, involvement in or promotion of gambling such as lotteries, casinos or subsidization of Native American casinos."
Platform

by inference the Constitution Party opposes Native American's and thus supports the Casino's in Atlantic City, Las Vegas and other states wherein they can accept campaign donations from them, that includes Sheldon Adelson.

i dont see it that way,,,in fact they are very specific it isnt as you claim

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Bernie Sanders proposed free college education. Donald Trump proposed a border wall. Both were pretty damn radical.

Holy false equivalence, Batman! A fucking wall is no where near as radical an idea as free higher education. Not even the same league. Or sport, for that matter

 

[Wry Catcher]

Every person who is clamoring for more parties ought to be clamoring for campaign finance reform instead.

Fools.

McCain had a CFR bill passed and it gave us the damn Citizens United ruling. Congress is incompetent and would not go against their best interests, so it is doubtful we would ever get a good CFR bill.

The GOP has made sure that our elections will not be about issues or the character of candidates for elective offices by packing the court with anti democratic justices [anti-democratic does not mean to reflect the Democratic Party); the GOP cannot win elections on ideas, so they pack the courts, suppress voting and claim the meme that we are not a democratic republic.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

One problem......those "fringe" progressives keep having policies that the majority of Americans support...

And the fringe "conservatives" don't have any policies because they are still freaking out over gays being able to live and blacks being able to vote

 

[Papageorgio]

Every person who is clamoring for more parties ought to be clamoring for campaign finance reform instead.

Fools.

McCain had a CFR bill passed and it gave us the damn Citizens United ruling. Congress is incompetent and would not go against their best interests, so it is doubtful we would ever get a good CFR bill.

The GOP has made sure that our elections will not be about issues or the character of candidates for elective offices by packing the court with anti democratic justices [anti-democratic does not mean to reflect the Democratic Party); the GOP cannot win elections on ideas, so they pack the courts, suppress voting and claim the meme that we are not a democratic republic.

What legislation has the Democratic party set forth since the Citizens United ruling to change the campaign laws?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Bernie Sanders proposed free college education. Donald Trump proposed a border wall. Both were pretty damn radical.

Holy false equivalence, Batman! A fucking wall is no where near as radical an idea as free higher education. Not even the same league. Or sport, for that matter

I wonder why we were so radically socialist way back when....hmmmmmm.....and how did we survive our evil socialist communist past?? Hmmmm.....


1796: Thomas Jefferson proposes an education system supported through taxes.
Jefferson believed that for a government to truly work and people to be good citizens, the population had to be educated. Jefferson never saw his plans for universal free education realized in their entirety, but the government did begin subsidizing elementary schools in 1818 and helped him start The University of Virginia with a $15,000 grant.

Early 1800s: Many colleges do not charge tuition (or have very low rates)......but only the wealthy can afford the living expenses incurred during study - probably because of socialism and stuff..


1920: College admissions soar, doubling between 1920 and 1930.
In the carefree days of the Roaring 20’s, colleges saw a huge surge of admissions from both male and female students. By the end of the decade, 20% of college-age Americans would be enrolled. Tuition was still fairly low, and students could attend Wharton Business School for just $250 a year.

1960: The Master Plan for Higher Education in California maintains that tuition at University of California and state colleges should be free, but that fees are necessary to help cover non-instructional costs. “The two governing boards reaffirm the long established principle that state colleges and the University of California shall be free to all residents of the state.”

1966: Ronald Reagan assumed office of Governor of California and changed the course of the state’s higher education system. In his eight years, he cut state funding for college and universities and laid the foundation for a tuition-based system <-- which defeated communism

1975: College costs begin to increase at a rate much faster than inflation <-- because of freedom
Prior to the 1970s, college tuition rates only increased only about 2-3% a year, which was fairly on par with the rest of the economy. Since the mid-seventies, however, college prices have soared, going up 5-6% above inflation. In 2003, for example, average college costs went up a whopping 14% in just one year. <<--- To own the libs

I for one am relieved that college is becoming more and more expensive, that way we can insure that only the "right people" get good college educations; wouldn't want those others to start thinking they can do what we do...


A Timeline of College Tuition - BestCollegesOnline.com

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Every person who is clamoring for more parties ought to be clamoring for campaign finance reform instead.

Fools.

McCain had a CFR bill passed and it gave us the damn Citizens United ruling. Congress is incompetent and would not go against their best interests, so it is doubtful we would ever get a good CFR bill.

The GOP has made sure that our elections will not be about issues or the character of candidates for elective offices by packing the court with anti democratic justices [anti-democratic does not mean to reflect the Democratic Party); the GOP cannot win elections on ideas, so they pack the courts, suppress voting and claim the meme that we are not a democratic republic.

What legislation has the Democratic party set forth since the Citizens United ruling to change the campaign laws?

Democracy for All Amendment