I don't understand the ACA

[HelenaHandbag]

ACA is not a health insurance, its a Law. Everyone in the country WITH insurance is far more than 3. Whatever million.

Its just that only 3. Whatever million have bought their insurqnce off the exchange. That doesnt mean the rest dont have insurance.


Clear it up for ya?

Three million is far, far less than the more than 30 million that Obiecare was supposed to be insuring. It is certainly fewer enrolees than it needs to stay afloat.

The crash of that scam is going to make Madaoff look like a piker.

It needs zero to "stay afloat," because "it" is not a health insurance business. It's a law.

WOW

The CBO disagrees with you.

Sorry to break the bad news.

 

[G.T.]

I would think the 48 million that Obama said needed healthcare would flood the government website.
So where are they?

Only 3.3 million signed up...
How many of them completed the process and paid for the policies?

Do you know how many of the 48mil have become insured since? If the exchange is the only place youre looking - youre missong somthing in your knowledge repertoire.

 

[Zander]

I get the feeling that you few in this thread think that the ACA is an actual insurance plan...


In which case, you're lost.

Nobody but the OP thinks the ACA is an insurance plan.....

 

[jon_berzerk]

Let's see...pay for health insurance I'll never use at $13,000 per year...or pay a $95.00 tax....

tough decision....

They will change that.

They will just take the money straight out of your accounts, and they will make it a criminal offense to dodge.

Seriously. I can't believe people are surprised. Morons.

the tryancy continues

now employers must "attest"

that obamacare not behind staffing decisions

or face perjury charges

seriously when will this bullshit end

 

[jon_berzerk]

I would think the 48 million that Obama said needed healthcare would flood the government website.
So where are they?

Only 3.3 million signed up...
How many of them completed the process and paid for the policies?

signed up

or paid a premium

two different things

how many subsidized verses full payers

 

[norwegen]

The ACA is arbitrary law; it does not facilitate the civil society. People are slow to do what they don't want to do.

 

[william the wie]

I would think the 48 million that Obama said needed healthcare would flood the government website.
So where are they?

Only 3.3 million signed up...
How many of them completed the process and paid for the policies?

Do you know how many of the 48mil have become insured since? If the exchange is the only place youre looking - youre missong somthing in your knowledge repertoire.

Actually not, google risk corridor which does not apply to non-exchange insurance also google government reinsurance mandate. you are misinformed. Also google medicaid subsidy which is not available off exchange.

 

[Antares]

Everyone is not supposed to buy from the exchange.

True enough,but ................. there won't be enough to get this turd to fly

The exchange isn't somewhere you go to purchase Government insurance.

It's an exchange of private health insurance companies.

They're already flying, they didn't need the ACA to go into Business.

99% of the people in this thread have inadvertently admitted that they have been misinformed, and are complaining about things that aren't even true.

See how and why the Country is so divided? People are purposefully misled about what the other people think, or do.

It's a dumb as fuck game.

The exchange isn't somewhere you go to purchase Government insurance.

It's an exchange of private health insurance companies.

They're already flying, they didn't need the ACA to go into Business.

Well aren't you just the most informed little girl here?
Their ONLY purpose is to sell compliant plans....and if one WANTS the subsidy they qualify for they MUST go through the Exchange.

 

[Antares]

It needs zero to "stay afloat," because "it" is not a health insurance business. It's a law.

WOW

You keep thinking that,or when the bailouts roll out we can talk again.

Bailouts for what?

Every new person insured is MORE business than the insurance companies were doing before.

And before, they were...........you know, afloat. In Business.

Bailouts for what?

Surely an educated person like you knows what adverse risk is?
Since you surely do you also understand what the "risk corridors" are that have been built into the Law.....and since you know what those are you also understand that they serve one purpose.

Now I'm sure we can agree that since you know that the risk corridors are used to funnel money to the Insurance Companies because they have been FORCED to take on all of the sick people (adverse risk).

This is more commonly referred to as a "bailout".

 

[william the wie]

I think you exceeded 1.5 syllables/word, Antares.

 

[Antares]

I think you exceeded 1.5 syllables/word, Antares.

Sorry.

 

[chikenwing]

Everyone is not supposed to buy from the exchange.

True enough,but ................. there won't be enough to get this turd to fly

The exchange isn't somewhere you go to purchase Government insurance.

It's an exchange of private health insurance companies.

They're already flying, they didn't need the ACA to go into Business.

99% of the people in this thread have inadvertently admitted that they have been misinformed, and are complaining about things that aren't even true.

See how and why the Country is so divided? People are purposefully misled about what the other people think, or do.

It's a dumb as fuck game.

Really no kidding thanks for repeating the blatantly obvious.
Those private companies need all those other people to stay afloat keep flying ,because of all the rules about per existing conditions that must be now covered and other increases in requirements,they must have all the people or it fails.

Its you that needs more knowledge.

 

[chikenwing]

It needs zero to "stay afloat," because "it" is not a health insurance business. It's a law.

WOW

You keep thinking that,or when the bailouts roll out we can talk again.

Bailouts for what?

Every new person insured is MORE business than the insurance companies were doing before.

And before, they were...........you know, afloat. In Business.

Your forgetting or ignoring so much,the additional cost for coving people with per exsisting conditions,REQUIRE many many more people to sign on or they,the insurance companies collapse.

This is Econ 101 here.

 

[billyerock1991]

If the ACA is law, and everyone's supposed to be enrolled in it, why accoridng to CNN last night is just 3.3M Americans so far enrolled? That's a smigden over 1%. That doesn't seem like very many.

in case you forgot here's is part of the reason .. mainly the main reason is the states that are run by republicans governors, the health care plan said they can get their money from the feds or go through and exchange and not allow them to use medicaid ... this in my opinion was a mistake in the plan for enrollment... they should have made it mandatory for all states to have the exchange and medicaid ... if they had done it that way there would have been double of the numbers signing up... I predict the states that lose their republican governor or who are force by the people of that state to be put on a ballot vote on for the medicaid and exchange programs they will fill out the rest the amount that aren't on a plan yet... for right now the poor won't get medicaid in republican run states ... that will change in time

 

[billyerock1991]

You keep thinking that,or when the bailouts roll out we can talk again.

Bailouts for what?

Every new person insured is MORE business than the insurance companies were doing before.

And before, they were...........you know, afloat. In Business.

Your forgetting or ignoring so much,the additional cost for coving people with per exsisting conditions,REQUIRE many many more people to sign on or they,the insurance companies collapse.

This is Econ 101 here.

when the republicans are voted out of the governor then they will meet their challenge... if the dems tale ofer the house and retain the senate you republicans will be fucked for a long time they will see what evil people republicans are

 

[chikenwing]

Bailouts for what?

Every new person insured is MORE business than the insurance companies were doing before.

And before, they were...........you know, afloat. In Business.

Your forgetting or ignoring so much,the additional cost for coving people with per exsisting conditions,REQUIRE many many more people to sign on or they,the insurance companies collapse.

This is Econ 101 here.

when the republicans are voted out of the governor then they will meet their challenge... if the dems tale ofer the house and retain the senate you republicans will be fucked for a long time they will see what evil people republicans are

Really,how many states are there? 57?

Not one Republican voted for this turd,its a cluster fuck beyond rationality,yet its always someones fault with you ass hats!! It will remain a cluster fuck,until hammer heads like yourself admit its vast short comings and are willing to really compromise.

 

[Jughead]

If the ACA is law, and everyone's supposed to be enrolled in it, why accoridng to CNN last night is just 3.3M Americans so far enrolled? That's a smigden over 1%. That doesn't seem like very many.

Because for many of us who had our prior health plans cancelled last year, it's cheaper to pay the penalty for not enrolling than dishing out $10,000 yearly for obamacare. Most of us usually see a doctor for checkups once yearly, so it's easier to just pay out of pocket.

Once they repeal obamacare, then will be the time to re-enroll in the old plan.

 

[Ame®icano]

I would think the 48 million that Obama said needed healthcare would flood the government website.
So where are they?

Only 3.3 million signed up...
How many of them completed the process and paid for the policies?

Apparently, not that many people need insurance and that number of 40 million uninsured was a sales pitch.

 

[william the wie]

If the ACA is law, and everyone's supposed to be enrolled in it, why accoridng to CNN last night is just 3.3M Americans so far enrolled? That's a smigden over 1%. That doesn't seem like very many.

Because for many of us who had our prior health plans cancelled last year, it's cheaper to pay the penalty for not enrolling than dishing out $10,000 yearly for obamacare. Most of us usually see a doctor for checkups once yearly, so it's easier to just pay out of pocket.

Once they repeal obamacare, then will be the time to re-enroll in the old plan.

Wrong. The mechanisms of the old system have been trashed by ACA. Insurance companies that have participated in the exchanges are likely to experience severe blowback and possible bankruptcy as ACA unravels.

Also it is more effective to certify states as being compliant and let the mostly blue state exchange states bleed talent and money. By destroying the geographical base of the Ds or at least most of it the TEA party can split from the establishment GOP without turning the country over to the lunatic rank and file of the Ds. There is nothing more effective than a really graphic example of what does not work. So, no repeal is in the cards.

 

[Jughead]

If the ACA is law, and everyone's supposed to be enrolled in it, why accoridng to CNN last night is just 3.3M Americans so far enrolled? That's a smigden over 1%. That doesn't seem like very many.

Because for many of us who had our prior health plans cancelled last year, it's cheaper to pay the penalty for not enrolling than dishing out $10,000 yearly for obamacare. Most of us usually see a doctor for checkups once yearly, so it's easier to just pay out of pocket.

Once they repeal obamacare, then will be the time to re-enroll in the old plan.

Wrong. The mechanisms of the old system have been trashed by ACA. Insurance companies that have participated in the exchanges are likely to experience severe blowback and possible bankruptcy as ACA unravels.

Also it is more effective to certify states as being compliant and let the mostly blue state exchange states bleed talent and money. By destroying the geographical base of the Ds or at least most of it the TEA party can split from the establishment GOP without turning the country over to the lunatic rank and file of the Ds. There is nothing more effective than a really graphic example of what does not work. So, no repeal is in the cards.

I still plan to wait it out.