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We have Trumpsters running around screaming SOCIALISM at everything that moves.To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.
Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?
You don't have a clue what Socialism IS...do you Billy? It's when government controls the means of production. Bailouts have ZERO to do with Socialism! Those farmers still operate in the Private Sector...the government doesn't "own" them! If you're going to post about things like this...do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the topic BEFORE you post nonsense like this!
So you really don't know anything about the Soviet Union, and why it fell.
Sorry, if you know so little, do yourself and favor, and learn something about a system that you claim to support.
Yes, I do. An Empire failed, not an economic system. All Empires fall eventually.
The problem with all of those who say that Greece got screwed over by the EU, is that Greece made the choice to join the EU. Without doing that Greece would have been bankrupt back in the 1990s. It was joining the EU that gave more integrity to their bonds. Maybe you don't know this, but the interest rates on Greek bonds were going up dramatically in the 1990s, which is exactly why the lied and fabricated their way into joining the EU.
Oh, I agree, the EU never should have admitted Greece to start with. But they were eager to get into that market, so they let Greece fraud it's way into the EU, and then proceeded to screw them when they got in.
Doesn't take away from the fact that Germany's behavior in insisting on screwing Greece was criminal.
Absolutely leftastic that someone believes this nonsense.
Russia is still 20 years behind because of their communism, millions died for having the wrong opinion. But it wasn't communism that failed, it was the nation.
No, the nation did not fail, Russia is still Russia. What failed was communism. What will fail even harder is multiculturalism - after it America will no longer be America. This is what JoeB wants let us make no mistake about it. That's because he is first and foremost a satanist.
No, the nation did not fail, Russia is still Russia. What failed was communism. What will fail even harder is multiculturalism - after it America will no longer be America. This is what JoeB wants let us make no mistake about it. That's because he is first and foremost a satanist.
The USSR wasn't multi-cultural. It was STILL trying to impose "Russification' on Uzbeks and Tajiks and Lithuanians.
We've always been a multi-cultural nation. Heck, most of our people are multi-cultural. My ancestry includes German, Irish, English, Dutch and Cherokee.
Did I say it was? Read again - that's exactly why they are still Russia. We won't be America in a few decades.
Did I say it was? Read again - that's exactly why they are still Russia. We won't be America in a few decades.
Actually, what makes America strong is it's ability to grow and adapt. The "melting pot" you keep hearing about.
150 years ago, some dumbfuck nativist like you whined about the Irish
100 years ago, some dumbfuck nativist like you whined about the Germans
50 years ago, some dumbfuck nativist like you whined about the Poles. (I'm old enough to remember Polish Jokes, before they became Blonde jokes.)
now you are whining about the Mexicans.
The melting pot? You mean freedom loving white Americans from Western Europe? Yes those are the people who made America not only strong, but America.
The melting pot? You mean freedom loving white Americans from Western Europe? Yes those are the people who made America not only strong, but America.
Uh, again, no one felt that at the time.
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We have Trumpsters running around screaming SOCIALISM at everything that moves.To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.
Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?
You don't have a clue what Socialism IS...do you Billy? It's when government controls the means of production. Bailouts have ZERO to do with Socialism! Those farmers still operate in the Private Sector...the government doesn't "own" them! If you're going to post about things like this...do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the topic BEFORE you post nonsense like this!
We have Trumpsters running around thinking that the Dems are using Venezuela as their model.
Maybe you should have this conversation with them, first. They need it more.
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Absolutely leftastic that someone believes this nonsense.
Russia is still 20 years behind because of their communism, millions died for having the wrong opinion. But it wasn't communism that failed, it was the nation.
Okay, buddy. How far was Russia behind the rest of the world in 1917?
If Russia was behind after communism and behind before communism, but DURING communism, it was formidable enough where the whole western world had to stop fighting among itself and form an alliance against it, that's actually, kind of impressive.
Absolutely leftastic that someone believes this nonsense.
Russia is still 20 years behind because of their communism, millions died for having the wrong opinion. But it wasn't communism that failed, it was the nation.
Okay, buddy. How far was Russia behind the rest of the world in 1917?
If Russia was behind after communism and behind before communism, but DURING communism, it was formidable enough where the whole western world had to stop fighting among itself and form an alliance against it, that's actually, kind of impressive.
And yet the entire "impressive" nation imploded on it's own...not because they were conquered by the West...but because their system was unsustainable! The only impression that should make on any intelligent person is that it's not something to emulate!
You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany.What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany. But you choose to deny the obvious, because that's the game.We have Trumpsters running around screaming SOCIALISM at everything that moves.To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.
Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?
You don't have a clue what Socialism IS...do you Billy? It's when government controls the means of production. Bailouts have ZERO to do with Socialism! Those farmers still operate in the Private Sector...the government doesn't "own" them! If you're going to post about things like this...do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the topic BEFORE you post nonsense like this!
We have Trumpsters running around thinking that the Dems are using Venezuela as their model.
Maybe you should have this conversation with them, first. They need it more.
.
Kind of a stupid post when the person leading the pack for the Democratic nomination is a self professed Socialist, Mac! Think about that for a good long moment...the Democrats are trying to get a Socialist elected President of the United States! That isn't something conservatives are "making up"! That's how far to the left the Democrats have gone. What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
I wasn't expecting an honest response. I never do.
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Cool.You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany. But you choose to deny the obvious, because that's the game.We have Trumpsters running around screaming SOCIALISM at everything that moves.To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.
Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?
You don't have a clue what Socialism IS...do you Billy? It's when government controls the means of production. Bailouts have ZERO to do with Socialism! Those farmers still operate in the Private Sector...the government doesn't "own" them! If you're going to post about things like this...do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the topic BEFORE you post nonsense like this!
We have Trumpsters running around thinking that the Dems are using Venezuela as their model.
Maybe you should have this conversation with them, first. They need it more.
.
Kind of a stupid post when the person leading the pack for the Democratic nomination is a self professed Socialist, Mac! Think about that for a good long moment...the Democrats are trying to get a Socialist elected President of the United States! That isn't something conservatives are "making up"! That's how far to the left the Democrats have gone. What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
I wasn't expecting an honest response. I never do.
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Democratic socialism is not social democracy.
"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
Same trick as Hitler used when he added "national" in front of socialism. You don't get anything better, it's the same turd only with some extra words.
None of those countries you speak of are democratic socialist, nor do they represent the American model - which is freedom. Move there if you want to live like them. This is what Bernie supporters want to believe because they can't handle the truth - their leader is a socialist.
Happy to educate you on the definition of socialism.
Cool.You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany. But you choose to deny the obvious, because that's the game.We have Trumpsters running around screaming SOCIALISM at everything that moves.You don't have a clue what Socialism IS...do you Billy? It's when government controls the means of production. Bailouts have ZERO to do with Socialism! Those farmers still operate in the Private Sector...the government doesn't "own" them! If you're going to post about things like this...do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the topic BEFORE you post nonsense like this!
We have Trumpsters running around thinking that the Dems are using Venezuela as their model.
Maybe you should have this conversation with them, first. They need it more.
.
Kind of a stupid post when the person leading the pack for the Democratic nomination is a self professed Socialist, Mac! Think about that for a good long moment...the Democrats are trying to get a Socialist elected President of the United States! That isn't something conservatives are "making up"! That's how far to the left the Democrats have gone. What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
I wasn't expecting an honest response. I never do.
.
Democratic socialism is not social democracy.
"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
Same trick as Hitler used when he added "national" in front of socialism. You don't get anything better, it's the same turd only with some extra words.
None of those countries you speak of are democratic socialist, nor do they represent the American model - which is freedom. Move there if you want to live like them. This is what Bernie supporters want to believe because they can't handle the truth - their leader is a socialist.
Happy to educate you on the definition of socialism.
I wonder if this means you guys will continue to misrepresent what the Dems are saying.
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And he uses the countries above as examples. Regularly.Cool.You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany. But you choose to deny the obvious, because that's the game.We have Trumpsters running around screaming SOCIALISM at everything that moves.
We have Trumpsters running around thinking that the Dems are using Venezuela as their model.
Maybe you should have this conversation with them, first. They need it more.
.
Kind of a stupid post when the person leading the pack for the Democratic nomination is a self professed Socialist, Mac! Think about that for a good long moment...the Democrats are trying to get a Socialist elected President of the United States! That isn't something conservatives are "making up"! That's how far to the left the Democrats have gone. What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
I wasn't expecting an honest response. I never do.
.
Democratic socialism is not social democracy.
"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
Same trick as Hitler used when he added "national" in front of socialism. You don't get anything better, it's the same turd only with some extra words.
None of those countries you speak of are democratic socialist, nor do they represent the American model - which is freedom. Move there if you want to live like them. This is what Bernie supporters want to believe because they can't handle the truth - their leader is a socialist.
Happy to educate you on the definition of socialism.
I wonder if this means you guys will continue to misrepresent what the Dems are saying.
.
Sanders has admitted to being democratic socialist.
His staffers are talking about guillotines for the rich and gulags. This is socialist talk.
And he uses the countries above as examples. Regularly.Cool.You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany. But you choose to deny the obvious, because that's the game.Kind of a stupid post when the person leading the pack for the Democratic nomination is a self professed Socialist, Mac! Think about that for a good long moment...the Democrats are trying to get a Socialist elected President of the United States! That isn't something conservatives are "making up"! That's how far to the left the Democrats have gone. What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
I wasn't expecting an honest response. I never do.
.
Democratic socialism is not social democracy.
"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
Same trick as Hitler used when he added "national" in front of socialism. You don't get anything better, it's the same turd only with some extra words.
None of those countries you speak of are democratic socialist, nor do they represent the American model - which is freedom. Move there if you want to live like them. This is what Bernie supporters want to believe because they can't handle the truth - their leader is a socialist.
Happy to educate you on the definition of socialism.
I wonder if this means you guys will continue to misrepresent what the Dems are saying.
.
Sanders has admitted to being democratic socialist.
His staffers are talking about guillotines for the rich and gulags. This is socialist talk.
Wouldn't it be more interesting to have conversations based on intellectual honesty?
I really don't get the point of this stuff.
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You already know what their models are: Canada, Australia, the Nordic countries, Germany.What IS the model for Democrats? Name a socialist country that's not been a total disaster!
But you choose to deny the obvious, because that's the game: Blatantly misrepresent the other tribe's positions, no matter how much you need to lie.
I wasn't expecting an honest response. I never do.
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