I don't understand why republicans reject both a minimum wage hike and welfare for the poor

[Mac1958]

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The party is badly stuck in absolutist mode right now. "No" to anything that has to do with taxes, "no" to anything that has to do with (non-military) spending, "no" to anything that has to do with regulation.

That really paints their politicians and candidates into a corner.

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[zeke]

Kindly explain to me how you can raise one segment of the work force's pay without raising ALL of the work force's pay, Billy? Do you not grasp that's something that would have to happen?

Why don't you explain WHY you say that would have to happen? If I am working for a company making 20 bucks and hour and the MW workers of this company gets a 1.00 dollar an hour raise, why do I then demand the same increase? And why do I deserve it? And with no union representing most workers, who is going to force the issue that higher paid workers get the same increase that MW workers got?

Can you explain this? What you seem to be claiming is that every time one segment of the work force gets a raise that ALL workers of that same company get a raise. It don't work like that.

 

[Iceweasel]

Kindly explain to me how you can raise one segment of the work force's pay without raising ALL of the work force's pay, Billy? Do you not grasp that's something that would have to happen?

Why don't you explain WHY you say that would have to happen? If I am working for a company making 20 bucks and hour and the MW workers of this company gets a 1.00 dollar an hour raise, why do I then demand the same increase? And why do I deserve it? And with no union representing most workers, who is going to force the issue that higher paid workers get the same increase that MW workers got?

Can you explain this? What you seem to be claiming is that every time one segment of the work force gets a raise that ALL workers of that same company get a raise. It don't work like that.

You aren't making $20 hr so quit dreaming. If the starting wage moves up a buck or two or more, they guy a little longer will want and increase too. And so on. It's called human nature.

 

[zeke]

You've made it clear the only way you can make more money is if the government forces businesses to pay their lowest skilled employees more.

Now your fantasies are extending over to me? KMA. You really are fucking stupid. LMAO.
But you are consistent. Just like you make up shit about whatever, now you are making up shit about me. Why you doing that?

Don't you ever get tired of being proven wrong? Or you got some sort of weird fetish where you like getting slapped around on a message board? You fucking weird weasel.

 

[Iceweasel]

You've made it clear the only way you can make more money is if the government forces businesses to pay their lowest skilled employees more.

Now your fantasies are extending over to me? KMA. You really are fucking stupid. LMAO.
But you are consistent. Just like you make up shit about whatever, now you are making up shit about me. Why you doing that?

Don't you ever get tired of being proven wrong? Or you got some sort of weird fetish where you like getting slapped around on a message board? You fucking weird weasel.

You can't slap anything but your little dick. It's pathetic really.

 

[zeke]

If the starting wage moves up a buck or two or more, they guy a little longer will want and increase too.

Nice of you to show that really you would support a union if you had a job. Cause there is no workers organization that looks out for, what did you call it'" human nature."

The higher paid workers in a non union shop are going to work for what the company pays of get fired or quit. It's the whole right to work for less thingy that you love. That's like saying the boss got a big raise, I want one to. Ain't happen.

Your stupidity is showing again.

 

[Moonglow]

Believe it or not, both the left and the right want to end welfare for the poor. The left just has a realistic and humane way of doing it.

$153 billion of public assistance is spent on people because of their low wage jobs. 18 million people make less than $10.10 per hour. How many more do you think make less than $15? If the minimum was raised to $10.10, republicans are to stupid/immature to realize that far less people would be eligible for programs like food stamps. It would dramatically fix the fucking problem of the poor on welfare!

Like it or not, $15 as a minimum wage would be a base wage kept up with the rate of inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10.10 per hour was the fucking 60s. Since the recession, low wage jobs out number higher wage jobs. That means MILLIONS OF PEOPLE have no choice but to accept low wage jobs.

As long as it was gradually raised over a couple of years, the initial cost to the market would be minimized. Prices would go up, but not nearly enough to offset the consumer spending power created by it. Consumer spending would boom. The market would begin to create jobs. Way more than the jobs that would have been scrapped initially. Prices would also go down.

Look the only reason most (not all) CEOs are against raising wages is because it just easier to for them to keep the ridiculous money they make rather than invest in a strong labor force. The average CEO makes over 300x what the average worker makes. Sure we can all agree CEOs deserve a wealthy life for all their hard work, but do you really think they deserve 300x more?

Hell no.

Hell yes.

They stayed in school, got educated, got a marketable skill, didn't have a bunch of kids they couldn't afford and you want to reward those who did none of these things just because they breath. Bullshit.

Boy talk about stereotyping....But It don't bother me, not a one of the wealthy will make it top Heaven, so they better enjoy it now....

 

[zeke]

You can't slap anything but your little dick. It's pathetic really.

Now you want me to dick slap you? Fuck that. Ain't happening. No matter how much you offer to pay me.

 

[zeke]

Hey weasel, pretend we are talking about you and the MW worker got a .50 cent raise. And now you want one too.

Shit in one hand and wish for your raise with the other. Let us know which hand fills up first.

 

[kaz]

Because they want the super rich to have it all.

Do you have a t-shirt that says "I'm With Stupid" and an arrow pointing down? Did this actually sound good to you?

 

[kaz]

Boy talk about stereotyping....But It don't bother me, not a one of the wealthy will make it top Heaven, so they better enjoy it now....

So there's a moocher heaven? I didn't know that. Those are your people, hope you enjoy. When we're both gone, I'll ship you a hat to beg with

 

[kaz]

Look the only reason most (not all) CEOs are against raising wages is because it just easier to for them to keep the ridiculous money they make rather than invest in a strong labor force

Yes, Karl, we oppress the proletariat, that is our priority in running our businesses. Out of curiosity, what grade did you drop out?

 

[Lovebears65]

Because they want the super rich to have it all.

Well since the dems have more super rich then republicans who are we really helping asshole .. This makes no damn sense..

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Well since the dems have more super rich then republicans who are we really helping asshole .. This makes no damn sense..

Its not the Democrats standing up for Paris and Conrad Hilton is you Republicans taking groveling to another level....in Dante's Inferno

 

[Wyatt earp]

Believe it or not, both the left and the right want to end welfare for the poor. The left just has a realistic and humane way of doing it.

$153 billion of public assistance is spent on people because of their low wage jobs. 18 million people make less than $10.10 per hour. How many more do you think make less than $15? If the minimum was raised to $10.10, republicans are to stupid/immature to realize that far less people would be eligible for programs like food stamps. It would dramatically fix the fucking problem of the poor on welfare!

Like it or not, $15 as a minimum wage would be a base wage kept up with the rate of inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10.10 per hour was the fucking 60s. Since the recession, low wage jobs out number higher wage jobs. That means MILLIONS OF PEOPLE have no choice but to accept low wage jobs.

As long as it was gradually raised over a couple of years, the initial cost to the market would be minimized. Prices would go up, but not nearly enough to offset the consumer spending power created by it. Consumer spending would boom. The market would begin to create jobs. Way more than the jobs that would have been scrapped initially. Prices would also go down.

Look the only reason most (not all) CEOs are against raising wages is because it just easier to for them to keep the ridiculous money they make rather than invest in a strong labor force. The average CEO makes over 300x what the average worker makes. Sure we can all agree CEOs deserve a wealthy life for all their hard work, but do you really think they deserve 300x more?

Hell no.

Its yet another troll thread from billy triple fail.
Hey, Billy. Min wage increases lock out those at the bottom of the job ladder from ever getting jobs. You cannot pay 10/hr to someone only worth 5/hr. Check unemployment rates for black teenagers compared to min wage increases. They rise in direct proportion. Min wage is racist and it keeps people poor. Like most liberal policies.

Billy and these left wing ignorant economic nut jobs never understand a thing

A MW wage of $10, $15, $20,$50 $100 bucks an hour you are still FUCKING POOR. And you just lost the middle class at $25 bucks an hour.

A year ago checked out wage scales in Australia with there $15 dollar MW

A person with my skills makes right around what I do 75 grand a year, now check out the price of a big mac for example $2 bucks more, now add in everything else that cost more in Australia

It is GOD DAMN TRICKLE UP
Maintenance Technician Salary Australia

 

[blackhawk]

Because they don't reject them they support raising the minimum wage not doubling it and helping people get off welfare and out of poverty instead of simply just giving them enough to keep them comfortable in it.

 

[Wildman]

They need public support if there aren't higher wages available.

they need to get their ass educated, the only public support i would agree with is the money given would only be used to get educated, and that money would be sent to the approved educational facility, and they could work a part or even a full time job.

 

[Wildman]

Why dont you people freak out about the ridiculous amount we spend on defense?

because THAT money goes toward a useful and beneficial service, military men and women's pay check, equipment for those who are sacrificing their lives in many places around this Earth just so you can sit your lazy fat welfare assisted ass on a chair (or are you lying in bed waiting for some RICH person to knock on your refrigerator box home and offer you a $24.99 an hour job ?? ) and use a computer in the library to type out your hatred of the RICH people.

i can profile you very easily, being you are in Commierado, you most likely are in Boulder, living downstream of Boulder Creek in a refrigerator box under the 9th street bridge near the library and molest kids in Central park.

billy ))) you are a waste of bones

 

[Redfish]

Because they want the super rich to have it all.

That's not possible, inheritance tax heard of it? Duh! Even with the trillions in wealth redistribution already going on you leftist socialist pukes want to steal even more from the people worked to earn it.

You are so thick. You live in a fantasy land. All i am talking about is raising the minimum wage. THAT'S IT. The wealthy will still be wealthy. The world will keep turning. Capitalism will thrive you ass.

raising the MW would put poor people out of work and negatively impact the budgets of middle class people.

MW is being paid almost exclusively to teens doing part time work and those with virtually no job skills, NO ONE is making a minimum wage job a lifetime career.

this is a non issue that you fricken libtards think will get your some votes, its total bullshit.

 

[zeke]

raising the MW would put poor people out of work and negatively impact the budgets of middle class people.

MW is being paid almost exclusively to teens doing part time work and those with virtually no job skills, NO ONE is making a minimum wage job a lifetime career.

this is a non issue that you fricken libtards think will get your some votes, its total bullshit.

Liars gotta lie don't they. Maybe you've got the proof of what you claim. Non on the other assholes that think like you do. So do you have the proof of what you claim. Or are you just lying like the rest of your buddies?