If foreigners can't give things of value to campaigns, charge Hillary over the Steele dossier!

[Dragonlady]

It’s right there in the emails

Her Russian government ID is in the emails?

Even Steve Bannon called it “treason”.

So he doesn't know the definition either?

Are you REALLY trying to argue whether they knew she was Russian? She is a well-known Russian lawyer.

No. I'm trying to figure out if every Russian works for the government......

No and that's a strawman. She is a well-known Russian lawyer with close ties to the leaders of the Russian government.

Close ties? So she's not a government employee?
Not a government representative?

She represents high ranking Russian Government officials.

Her primary job for the Russian government is to get the Magnitsky Act overturned. This is the Act which financially sanctioned Russian oligarchs. Sergei Magnitsky is the lawyer who told the government that someone stole $270 million from his American client’s Russian tax account. Putin had him killed for that.

 

[jillian]

Steele is a British national. Why was he giving intel to the Clinton campaign? We need a special prosecutor to investigate crooked Hillary!

You talking about the dossier that was started by Republicans?

Is that anything like the Birther Movement that was started by members of the Clinton Campaign?

Democrats didn't run with the Birther Movement, Republicans didn't run with the Dossier.

Republicans ordered the opposition research in an effort to stop Trump from getting the nomination. The only reason they dropped work on the dossier was because Trump had enough delegates to secure the nomination. There was no point in continuing.

And that is different from Clinton floating the birther rumor, then abandoning it after Obama won the nomination. It's different because...






Because...





Because.........................





Okay, it's not different. But we'll pretend it's different.

Clinton did not float the birthPLACE rumor. That was a jerk who had previously worked for her campaign.

Are you having a bad day today? You seem confused

 

[Syriusly]

Steele is a British national. Why was he giving intel to the Clinton campaign? We need a special prosecutor to investigate crooked Hillary!

What did he 'give' the Clinton campaign?

Oh right- they paid for the services.

No lets recap what Trump did- or didn't do.

Trump committed adultery with a porn star while his new wife and baby were at home.
10 years later- days before the campaign started- Trump's lawyer out of the kindness of his heart- bribed the porn star not to talk about the adultery.

But hey- sure the payment didn't have anything to do with the election.......if you believe that well I can sell you an education at Trump University.

 

[Syriusly]

He didn't "give" them anything. He worked for a company as an employee and the company was paid for their services.

He most certainly did give them information. If that information was valuable, how is it any different than that Russian lawyer meeting Don Jr. to give him information? Hillary has to be just as much of a criminal.

The campaign paid him for the information.

Unlike an attorney- who is not part of a campaign- paying a bribe so voters won't know about his clients adultery.

 

[Syriusly]

Steele is a private individual working as an independent contractor who was hired by Fusion GPS on behalf of the Clinton campaign to do opposition research.

Don Jr. met with people who he knew were representatives of the Russian government with the understanding that this hostile foreign government would be providing dirt on his father’s opponent because that hostile foreign government wanted his father to be elected. That’s the very definition of “treason”.

Are you saying there would be no Mueller investigation if the Trump campaign had paid the Russian lawyer to meet with them?

Are you saying that Donald Trump had a three some with Putin and Stormy?

 

[Syriusly]

Steele is a British national. Why was he giving intel to the Clinton campaign? We need a special prosecutor to investigate crooked Hillary!

You talking about the dossier that was started by Republicans?

Is that anything like the Birther Movement that was started by members of the Clinton Campaign?r.

Well yes actually- both are false.

The Birther movement was started by Conservatives.
The dossier was not started by Republicans.

Of course the Birther movement was headed by Birther King Donald Trump for 5 years....so there is that connection.

 

[Syriusly]

Steele is a British national. Why was he giving intel to the Clinton campaign? We need a special prosecutor to investigate crooked Hillary!

You talking about the dossier that was started by Republicans?

Is that anything like the Birther Movement that was started by members of the Clinton Campaign?

Democrats didn't run with the Birther Movement, Republicans didn't run with the Dossier.

Republicans ordered the opposition research in an effort to stop Trump from getting the nomination. The only reason they dropped work on the dossier was because Trump had enough delegates to secure the nomination. There was no point in continuing.

And that is different from Clinton floating the birther rumor, then abandoning it after Obama won the nomination. It's different because...

Well its different because Clinton never mentioned the Birther idiocy.

You are confusing her with Donald Trump and his 5 years of promoting Birther lies.

 

[Syriusly]

Send Obama to jail for his foreign donations too.....rules for thee

What foreign donations?

 

[Syriusly]

He didn't "give" them anything. He worked for a company as an employee and the company was paid for their services.

He most certainly did give them information. If that information was valuable, how is it any different than that Russian lawyer meeting Don Jr. to give him information? Hillary has to be just as much of a criminal.

Steele is a private individual working as an independent contractor who was hired by Fusion GPS on behalf of the Clinton campaign to do opposition research.

Don Jr. met with people who he knew were representatives of the Russian government with the understanding that this hostile foreign government would be providing dirt on his father’s opponent because that hostile foreign government wanted his father to be elected. That’s the very definition of “treason”.

Don Jr. met with people who he knew were representatives of the Russian government

Did she flash her Russian government ID at him?

That’s the very definition of “treason”.

No it isn't. Not even close.

Read his emails asshat. It’s right there in the emails - that he was meeting with a Rusdian government lawyer to get dirt on Hillary, because the Russian government wanted to help his Dad.

Even Steve Bannon called it “treason”. Junior hasn’t got a leg to stand on.

Then Daddy got involved in writing that memo which lied about the meeting. Mueller is calling that “obstruction of justice” in his report on Trump’s role in obstructing the investigation.

It’s right there in the emails

Her Russian government ID is in the emails?

Even Steve Bannon called it “treason”.

So he doesn't know the definition either?

It isn't treason- but yes Donnie Jr. was very excited about meeting up with a Russian who claimed to have official dirt on Clinton.

The only reason why he didn't collude with the Russians in this case is because they played him.

If they had had the dirt they said he had- he would have used it.

 

[jillian]

Steele is a British national. Why was he giving intel to the Clinton campaign? We need a special prosecutor to investigate crooked Hillary!

You talking about the dossier that was started by Republicans?

Is that anything like the Birther Movement that was started by members of the Clinton Campaign?

Democrats didn't run with the Birther Movement, Republicans didn't run with the Dossier.

Republicans ordered the opposition research in an effort to stop Trump from getting the nomination. The only reason they dropped work on the dossier was because Trump had enough delegates to secure the nomination. There was no point in continuing.

And that is different from Clinton floating the birther rumor, then abandoning it after Obama won the nomination. It's different because...






Because...





Because.........................





Okay, it's not different. But we'll pretend it's different.

Clinton did not float the birthPLACE rumor. That was a jerk who had previously worked for her campaign.

Are you having a bad day today? You seem confused

That apparently amuses the half-witted.

Reality does that to trump trolls.

 

[jillian]

Send Obama to jail for his foreign donations too.....rules for thee

You think you can just make up whatever delusion trash passes through what we laughingly refer to as your mind.

 

[Auld Phart]

You talking about the dossier that was started by Republicans?

Is that anything like the Birther Movement that was started by members of the Clinton Campaign?

Democrats didn't run with the Birther Movement, Republicans didn't run with the Dossier.

Republicans ordered the opposition research in an effort to stop Trump from getting the nomination. The only reason they dropped work on the dossier was because Trump had enough delegates to secure the nomination. There was no point in continuing.

And that is different from Clinton floating the birther rumor, then abandoning it after Obama won the nomination. It's different because...






Because...





Because.........................





Okay, it's not different. But we'll pretend it's different.

Clinton did not float the birthPLACE rumor. That was a jerk who had previously worked for her campaign.

Are you having a bad day today? You seem confused

That apparently amuses the half-witted.

Reality does that to trump trolls.

Reality?

when have you and 'reality' even been on the same continent?

I didn't say CLINTON floated rumor, I said someone in her campaign did.

It died there, and the Right picked up on it.

You're about as bright as luminous paint at high noon.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Send Obama to jail for his foreign donations too.....rules for thee

You think you can just make up whatever delusion trash passes through what we laughingly refer to as your mind.

Delusion,,,they advertised it openly

 

[jillian]

Send Obama to jail for his foreign donations too.....rules for thee

You think you can just make up whatever delusion trash passes through what we laughingly refer to as your mind.

Delusion,,,they advertised it openly

Lol.

Good luck with that.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Obama’s foreign donors
more where that came from

 

[Dragonlady]

He most certainly did give them information. If that information was valuable, how is it any different than that Russian lawyer meeting Don Jr. to give him information? Hillary has to be just as much of a criminal.

Steele is a private individual working as an independent contractor who was hired by Fusion GPS on behalf of the Clinton campaign to do opposition research.

Don Jr. met with people who he knew were representatives of the Russian government with the understanding that this hostile foreign government would be providing dirt on his father’s opponent because that hostile foreign government wanted his father to be elected. That’s the very definition of “treason”.

Don Jr. met with people who he knew were representatives of the Russian government

Did she flash her Russian government ID at him?

That’s the very definition of “treason”.

No it isn't. Not even close.

Read his emails asshat. It’s right there in the emails - that he was meeting with a Rusdian government lawyer to get dirt on Hillary, because the Russian government wanted to help his Dad.

Even Steve Bannon called it “treason”. Junior hasn’t got a leg to stand on.

Then Daddy got involved in writing that memo which lied about the meeting. Mueller is calling that “obstruction of justice” in his report on Trump’s role in obstructing the investigation.

It’s right there in the emails

Her Russian government ID is in the emails?

Even Steve Bannon called it “treason”.

So he doesn't know the definition either?

It isn't treason- but yes Donnie Jr. was very excited about meeting up with a Russian who claimed to have official dirt on Clinton.

The only reason why he didn't collude with the Russians in this case is because they played him.

If they had had the dirt they said he had- he would have used it.

That’s the story the Trump Campaign put out. She had nothing. It was a waste of time. But was it?

The lawyer received her visa to enter the US to defend a $230 million federal money laundering suit the Justice Department filed against her Russian oligarch client. The client was accused of laundering money by buying expensive Manhattan properties.

Shortly after Jeff Sessions was confirmed as AG, Sessions settled her client’s suit for 2 cents on the dollar and no admission of guilt. The oligarch walked out the court room, paid a small fine and had about $225 million left over to invest in the Nee York real estate market.

DOJ Settled Massive Russian Fraud Case Involving Lawyer Who Met With Trump Jr.

 

[Dragonlady]

Obama’s

[URL='http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/261109-obamas-foreign-donors']Obama’s foreign donors

more where that came from

foreign donors[/URL]
more where that came from

Dick Morris? A lying scumbag who offers conjecture without a hint of evidence. A man who was fired by Bill Clinton for sexual peccadilloes and whose contract with FOX News was not renewed.

Dick Morris - Wikipedia

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Clinton did not float the birthPLACE rumor. That was a jerk who had previously worked for her campaign.

Actually, he was working for her at the time.

 

[Syriusly]

Clinton did not float the birthPLACE rumor. That was a jerk who had previously worked for her campaign.

Actually, he was working for her at the time.

Nope- not a single member of the Clinton campaign ever 'floated' the idea that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States.

The idea was started on right wing websites in March of 2008- and then picked up by Donald Trump in 2011- and he went full Birther for 5 years- until he won the Republican primary- and only then did he throw Birthers under the bus.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Nope- not a single member of the Clinton campaign ever 'floated' the idea that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States.

This is wrong, but it's also off topic. Another day, another thread perhaps.