If more guns makes a country safer

[2aguy]

The people at the world series showered their" love" upon Trump last night letting the scum know what MOST of America thinks of him

Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance and hyperpartisan bigotry.

Trump deserved every single bit of that and then more.

Trump will go down in history as one of our greatest Presidents.....you guys have no idea the truth behind what Trump is doing.....you belong to the racist democrat party, the political party that started the Civil War and now just tried to conduct a Coup against the President....History is not going to look at your party favorably.

 

[M14 Shooter]

My cop friend does not want everyone carrying guns

You say that like there are people who -do- want everyone to carry a gun.

Right now there are Republicans in state houses who are pushing to change the law so that a person doesn't need a CCW to conceal carry.

Which, as you know, does nothing to support your point, as in each of these bills there is a specification that the person ion question must be at least a certain age and must be able to legally own e a gun.

Try again - and don't lie to yourself this time.

 

[M14 Shooter]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

 

[2aguy]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Russian shooter killed 20 people and injured 40 with a tube fed, 5 shot pump action shotgun......

 

[sealybobo]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload. People have time to run. CCW holders can pick him off from far away. You know the reasons.

 

[2aguy]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload. People have time to run. CCW holders can pick him off from far away. You know the reasons.

Sorry, your wrong...... they would simply reload as they move with a shotgun, a combat reload.....the Russian Shooter, with the police station across the street, murdered 20 people with a pump action shotgun and injured 40.......that is more killed than Dayton, Gilroy and several others that happened with rifles with magazines...

It isn't the gun, it is the choice of target.

 

[M14 Shooter]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload...

And yet, there's no reason all but two of the mass shootings in the US could not have been perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
By YOUR standard, you should want them banned.
BUT...you don't.
And cannot say why.

 

[M14 Shooter]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload. People have time to run. CCW holders can pick him off from far away. You know the reasons.

Sorry, your wrong...... they would simply reload as they move with a shotgun, a combat reload.....

Never mind the fact most pump-actions shotguns can hold more than 5 rounds.
Some of them hold MANY more than 5 rounds.
And, as we know, fire 9 or more pellets per round.

 

[2aguy]

But the mass shooting epidemic is only happening in America.

So?

No, I don't want to live in a free society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people with a weapon that should not be in their hands.

With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.

Yes, liberalism and freedom go hand in hand.

So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload...

And yet, there's no reason all but two of the mass shootings in the US could not have been perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
By YOUR standard, you should want them banned.
BUT...you don't.
And cannot say why.

Can we be honest? Sealy wants to ban the shotgun too......they just know that right now it would be way too truthful to say.....first they get the AR-15, then the rest of the semi-autos, then the pump action shogun....since it is, in fact, an actual military weapon. The AR-15 is not a military weapon, but the pump action shotgun is...and they want to ban it too.....

 

[2aguy]

So?
With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.
So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload. People have time to run. CCW holders can pick him off from far away. You know the reasons.

Sorry, your wrong...... they would simply reload as they move with a shotgun, a combat reload.....

Never mind the fact most pump-actions shotguns can hold more than 5 rounds.
Some of them hold MANY more than 8 rounds.
And, as we know, fire 9 or more pellets per round.

That is why some of the gun grabbers want the magazine limit to be 7, not ten. They know that at 7 they get all the 10 round magazine fed guns banned...including shotguns.....

 

[sealybobo]

So?
With two exceptions, every mass shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
Tell us how you do not want to ban pump-action shotguns.
So long as liberals agree with the choices you want to make, sure.

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload...

And yet, there's no reason all but two of the mass shootings in the US could not have been perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
By YOUR standard, you should want them banned.
BUT...you don't.
And cannot say why.

Can we be honest? Sealy wants to ban the shotgun too......they just know that right now it would be way too truthful to say.....first they get the AR-15, then the rest of the semi-autos, then the pump action shogun....since it is, in fact, an actual military weapon. The AR-15 is not a military weapon, but the pump action shotgun is...and they want to ban it too.....

No I don't. I'm a hunter. I own guns.

You want to ban abortion and end social security and medicare but we do not want to ban guns. You're nuts.

 

[sealybobo]

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload. People have time to run. CCW holders can pick him off from far away. You know the reasons.

Sorry, your wrong...... they would simply reload as they move with a shotgun, a combat reload.....

Never mind the fact most pump-actions shotguns can hold more than 5 rounds.
Some of them hold MANY more than 8 rounds.
And, as we know, fire 9 or more pellets per round.

That is why some of the gun grabbers want the magazine limit to be 7, not ten. They know that at 7 they get all the 10 round magazine fed guns banned...including shotguns.....

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

There;'s no rational reason to "meet you" anywhere as you'll eventually demand more.
There's also no rational reason to limit shotguns to 5 rounds.

 

[2aguy]

You can't kill as many with a pump action shotgun as you can with a 20 mag glock.

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload...

And yet, there's no reason all but two of the mass shootings in the US could not have been perpetrated with a pump-action shotgun.
By YOUR standard, you should want them banned.
BUT...you don't.
And cannot say why.

Can we be honest? Sealy wants to ban the shotgun too......they just know that right now it would be way too truthful to say.....first they get the AR-15, then the rest of the semi-autos, then the pump action shogun....since it is, in fact, an actual military weapon. The AR-15 is not a military weapon, but the pump action shotgun is...and they want to ban it too.....

No I don't. I'm a hunter. I own guns.

You want to ban abortion and end social security and medicare but we do not want to ban guns. You're nuts.

Liar.

 

[2aguy]

Your statement, above, is a lie.
People with pump-action shotguns are capable of perpetrating all but two of the mass shootings taken place in the US -- as you do not want to live in a society where one person is free and capable of wiping out hundreds of people, why aren't pump-action shotguns on your list of weapons that should be banned?

Because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 shots and the guy has to reload. People have time to run. CCW holders can pick him off from far away. You know the reasons.

Sorry, your wrong...... they would simply reload as they move with a shotgun, a combat reload.....

Never mind the fact most pump-actions shotguns can hold more than 5 rounds.
Some of them hold MANY more than 8 rounds.
And, as we know, fire 9 or more pellets per round.

That is why some of the gun grabbers want the magazine limit to be 7, not ten. They know that at 7 they get all the 10 round magazine fed guns banned...including shotguns.....

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

Yeah...funny how you asshats keep moving that middle to advantage your extremism.........

You start by lying and saying you just want to ban 100 round drum magazines....and by the end of the bait and switch we are down to 5 shots......

You guys are assholes.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You start by lying and saying you just want to ban 100 round drum magazines....and by the end of the bait and switch we are down to 5 shots......

... in pump-action shotguns.
Not one inch.

 

[sealybobo]

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

There;'s no rational reason to "meet you" anywhere as you'll eventually demand more.
There's also no rational reason to limit shotguns to 5 rounds.

Not true. For example, machine guns are classified differently than AR15's. I want to re classify the AR15 but not the shotgun. There is a difference.

Easier to take out a guy with a shotgun than it is a guy with an AR15. This is Alien Vs. Predator. I take Alien every time.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

There;'s no rational reason to "meet you" anywhere as you'll eventually demand more.
There's also no rational reason to limit shotguns to 5 rounds.

Not true. For example, machine guns are classified differently than AR15's. I want to re classify the AR15 but not the shotgun. There is a difference.

This is a lie - you want to -ban- AR15s.
Still looking for your rational, reasoned argument for limiting shotguns to 5 rounds.
Still waiting for you to soundly explain why, by YOUR standard, you don't want pump-actions shotguns banned.

 

[sealybobo]

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

There;'s no rational reason to "meet you" anywhere as you'll eventually demand more.
There's also no rational reason to limit shotguns to 5 rounds.

Not true. For example, machine guns are classified differently than AR15's. I want to re classify the AR15 but not the shotgun. There is a difference.

This is a lie - you want to -ban- AR15s.
Still looking for your rational, reasoned argument for limiting shotguns to 5 rounds.
Still waiting for you to soundly explain why, by YOUR standard, you don't want pump-actions shotguns banned.

Because I don't think the masses should have access to this weapon.

You see us people in the middle on this subject don't want to ban shotguns or handguns that can shoot 10 at a time. When my side tries to do that, that's when I join your side. Right now I'm on the side of regulating more the AR15. You can own one but like a machine gun

The National Firearms Act (NFA), requires a tax to be paid to own, possess or transferguns such as machine guns, short barreled rifles and shotguns, silencers or sound suppressors, and AOWs. They are referred to as Title 2 firearms because they are regulated under Title 2 of the 1968 Gun Control Act.

What did your gun nut ancestors do about it in 1967? Nothing!

 

[sealybobo]

No. You just have to make shotguns that only hold 5 rounds. Meet us in the middle.

There;'s no rational reason to "meet you" anywhere as you'll eventually demand more.
There's also no rational reason to limit shotguns to 5 rounds.

Not true. For example, machine guns are classified differently than AR15's. I want to re classify the AR15 but not the shotgun. There is a difference.

This is a lie - you want to -ban- AR15s.
Still looking for your rational, reasoned argument for limiting shotguns to 5 rounds.
Still waiting for you to soundly explain why, by YOUR standard, you don't want pump-actions shotguns banned.

Not ban just put them in this category

The National Firearms Act (NFA), requires a tax to be paid to own, possess or transfer guns such as machine guns, short barreled rifles and shotguns, silencers or sound suppressors, and AOWs. They are referred to as Title 2 firearms because they are regulated under Title 2 of the 1968 Gun Control Act.