If Obama gets a laws passed on free community colleges I will called him:

[hazlnut]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

^^^^^
The above post is an example of someone who might benefit from some remedial writing classes at a Community College.

 

[PredFan]

I get it

The liberals who posted on here won't even touch the OP on the merits of it , they love to be snobs and think a blue collar guy like me has any use for grammar, they are jealous like always

They conservative posters on this thread so far I think don't understand a return on a investment , maybe they do watch to much fox news

Why is college so expensive?

Why are most CC's not so expensive?

Nothing is free, it is only a matter of who pays.

And if we do make CC free who's to say the dumb asses that the liberal left calls our HS seniors are even going to attend. By everything I see the cost, right now, is not out of reach for most if not all. This is just more BS from Obama trying to have a legacy.

It's a pay off to the teacher's unions.

 

[candycorn]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

I think the better plan would be to base it on social security but flip it on its head. Free now but deduct a token amount from all future paychecks--$20-$30 until it is paid off plus 5%-- to sustain the program.

 

[Nutz]

There are a lot of problems with the idea proposed by Obama. Some of the main ones are:

It won't be "Free", we all know that.

The idea that it will pay for itself with more taxes being paid by more working people is dubious at best.

If this idea becomes reality then it will reduce the value of a community college education to that of 13th and 14th Grade.

Just three problems off the top of my head.

I agree. I would like to see high schools split at 10th grade...you go to vocational training or 'academic' training at that point. You are prepared for college or prepared for the workforce when you graduate. Nothing in the middle.

 

[candycorn]

I get it

The liberals who posted on here won't even touch the OP on the merits of it , they love to be snobs and think a blue collar guy like me has any use for grammar, they are jealous like always

They conservative posters on this thread so far I think don't understand a return on a investment , maybe they do watch to much fox news

Why is college so expensive?

Why are most CC's not so expensive?

Nothing is free, it is only a matter of who pays.

And if we do make CC free who's to say the dumb asses that the liberal left calls our HS seniors are even going to attend. By everything I see the cost, right now, is not out of reach for most if not all. This is just more BS from Obama trying to have a legacy.

It's a pay off to the teacher's unions.

So it creates jobs...I can see why you're against it.

 

[candycorn]

There are a lot of problems with the idea proposed by Obama. Some of the main ones are:

It won't be "Free", we all know that.

The idea that it will pay for itself with more taxes being paid by more working people is dubious at best.

If this idea becomes reality then it will reduce the value of a community college education to that of 13th and 14th Grade.

Just three problems off the top of my head.

I agree. I would like to see high schools split at 10th grade...you go to vocational training or 'academic' training at that point. You are prepared for college or prepared for the workforce when you graduate. Nothing in the middle.

Crazy idea. An astronomically high percentage of people are not working in the career field they took in college/trade school for a variety of reasons.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Got bored of my other forum boards work nights 12 on 2 off , I can fuck off as much as I want, my shift supervisor she dont care as long as the machines are running

Thanks for asking

 

[candycorn]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

^^^^^
The above post is an example of someone who might benefit from some remedial writing classes at a Community College.

I understood his post just fine...

PS: "Community College" need not be capitalized.

 

[Nutz]

There are a lot of problems with the idea proposed by Obama. Some of the main ones are:

It won't be "Free", we all know that.

The idea that it will pay for itself with more taxes being paid by more working people is dubious at best.

If this idea becomes reality then it will reduce the value of a community college education to that of 13th and 14th Grade.

Just three problems off the top of my head.

I agree. I would like to see high schools split at 10th grade...you go to vocational training or 'academic' training at that point. You are prepared for college or prepared for the workforce when you graduate. Nothing in the middle.

Crazy idea. An astronomically high percentage of people are not working in the career field they took in college/trade school for a variety of reasons.

There is no law against changing your field. I don't see how vocational school or college prep classes would matter.

 

[Nutz]

I get it

The liberals who posted on here won't even touch the OP on the merits of it , they love to be snobs and think a blue collar guy like me has any use for grammar, they are jealous like always

They conservative posters on this thread so far I think don't understand a return on a investment , maybe they do watch to much fox news

Why is college so expensive?

Why are most CC's not so expensive?

Nothing is free, it is only a matter of who pays.

And if we do make CC free who's to say the dumb asses that the liberal left calls our HS seniors are even going to attend. By everything I see the cost, right now, is not out of reach for most if not all. This is just more BS from Obama trying to have a legacy.

It's a pay off to the teacher's unions.

So it creates jobs...I can see why you're against it.

How?

 

[orogenicman]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

show proof of you sending in your weekly paychecks to fund it then the "cons" might consider it. you do realize, Guberment doesn't have it's own MONEY TREES they pluck all this money to pay for all this "free stuff" right?
TAXPAYERS already pay for enough. Pay you're own way through more education and stop wanting other to do it for you

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Steph a major return on the investment hell Germany knows

America is not Germany. The German people are an industrious people who take pride in their accomplishments. American students enter college unable to spell or do simple arithmetic. Corrections on class work is micro aggression and racial attacks. Germans like to work. They like to do a good job. Neither is true of most Americans.

That isn't exactly true. The fact is that many Americans are workaholics and are among the most productive workers on the planet.

 

[orogenicman]

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. Gee, and it isn't even make up shit Thursday.

You know jack shit like most libs. I work over 400 hours of overtime a year and the size of the check I write the federal government to pay for your liberal so called 'free' crap is enormous.

Again, for those who are having a hard time understanding basic English:

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. But you are right. I do know Jack Schitt:

You fail at math. Go ahead tell us how its 'free'. Meanwhile my choices are A) work overtime to pay for all the liberal hand outs or B) have my taxes raised to pay for all the liberal hand outs. As I pay the bills those are my two choices. So I work overtime while the deadbeats sit around on their ass, yeah I'm getting tired of that.

If you work so much overtime, how the hell do you find the time to waste on this forum? As I said, this isn't make up shit Thursday, dude.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Thank you candy even when I am gone for a bit I remember what you wrote in debates on here you are smart for a democrat

 

[orogenicman]

I get it

The liberals who posted on here won't even touch the OP on the merits of it , they love to be snobs and think a blue collar guy like me has any use for grammar, they are jealous like always

They conservative posters on this thread so far I think don't understand a return on a investment , maybe they do watch to much fox news

Just because you are too fucking lazy to learn the language doesn't mean that we 'liberals' are wrong about you.

 

[Freewill]

There are a lot of problems with the idea proposed by Obama. Some of the main ones are:

It won't be "Free", we all know that.

The idea that it will pay for itself with more taxes being paid by more working people is dubious at best.

If this idea becomes reality then it will reduce the value of a community college education to that of 13th and 14th Grade.

Just three problems off the top of my head.

I agree. I would like to see high schools split at 10th grade...you go to vocational training or 'academic' training at that point. You are prepared for college or prepared for the workforce when you graduate. Nothing in the middle.

Don't most HS still do this? They did when I was a young man.

 

[Nutz]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

show proof of you sending in your weekly paychecks to fund it then the "cons" might consider it. you do realize, Guberment doesn't have it's own MONEY TREES they pluck all this money to pay for all this "free stuff" right?
TAXPAYERS already pay for enough. Pay you're own way through more education and stop wanting other to do it for you

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Steph a major return on the investment hell Germany knows

America is not Germany. The German people are an industrious people who take pride in their accomplishments. American students enter college unable to spell or do simple arithmetic. Corrections on class work is micro aggression and racial attacks. Germans like to work. They like to do a good job. Neither is true of most Americans.

That isn't exactly true. The fact is that many Americans are workaholics and are among the most productive workers on the planet.

pussycatlover is just a racist...she is an anti-American zealot. pay her no mind.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No thanks I was one of the cool kids in school who laughed at your ass and always got the cheerleader you wanted

And now you are a blue collar worker who settled for less?

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. Gee, and it isn't even make up shit Thursday.

You know jack shit like most libs. I work over 400 hours of overtime a year and the size of the check I write the federal government to pay for your liberal so called 'free' crap is enormous.

I am not a lib...but it i not my fault that you have to work overtime to make ends meet. Perhaps you should have gotten a college education so you don't have to work so many hours. As a matter of fact...I just assume you quit and go on welfare instead of getting the idea that you are the sole supporter of welfare recipient. Of course...if you were smart...you would be able to figure out how much overtime to work before you get bumped up to a new tax bracket and lose all of that money to taxes.

LOL son I pay more in Federal taxes than you earn.

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

show proof of you sending in your weekly paychecks to fund it then the "cons" might consider it. you do realize, Guberment doesn't have it's own MONEY TREES they pluck all this money to pay for all this "free stuff" right?
TAXPAYERS already pay for enough. Pay you're own way through more education and stop wanting other to do it for you

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Steph a major return on the investment hell Germany knows

America is not Germany. The German people are an industrious people who take pride in their accomplishments. American students enter college unable to spell or do simple arithmetic. Corrections on class work is micro aggression and racial attacks. Germans like to work. They like to do a good job. Neither is true of most Americans.

By
That isn't exactly true. The fact is that many Americans are workaholics and are among the most productive workers on the planet.

It's automation ,quality control, if you think they are working harder then 50 years ago come to my company in south carolina I will give you a tour

 

[Nutz]

There are a lot of problems with the idea proposed by Obama. Some of the main ones are:

It won't be "Free", we all know that.

The idea that it will pay for itself with more taxes being paid by more working people is dubious at best.

If this idea becomes reality then it will reduce the value of a community college education to that of 13th and 14th Grade.

Just three problems off the top of my head.

I agree. I would like to see high schools split at 10th grade...you go to vocational training or 'academic' training at that point. You are prepared for college or prepared for the workforce when you graduate. Nothing in the middle.

Don't most HS still do this? They did when I was a young man.

It isn't mandatory...just something idealistic..and the HS's that do it have seen success.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't get you dude, all I need to do is read books which I can read say a 800 page biography of Einstein in 2 days
Be able to read and comprehend electrical schematics in of German, American and Asian yes there is a big difference
Read and comprehend hydraulic prints all then same
And as a side talent can comprehend Japanese ,polish and Greman and fluent in it
Why do I need to I need to learn to write proper grammar for? So it makes you feel good? Btw my first wife was an English major from Kentucky and ended up working at IHOP

 

[Wyatt earp]

I guess that's why the liberals picked Obama because he used proper grammar and well spoken for a black guy , thank you sir , for picking on me about my poor grammar skills

and don't want to address my substance , my determination, my trouble shooting skills

That's untouchable to you

Thats why you picked Obama , just for a we'll spoken house Negro how fucking racist

P.PS at candy and other smart liberals

this is not directed at you