If Obama gets a laws passed on free community colleges I will called him:

[BluesLegend]

Damn don't you understand a return on an investment?

Obama care is a hand out

Not free community colleges, more people making more money more taxes collected

Newsflash community college is already 'free' to welfare sponges in some states, free community college plus free transportation to the college plus free child care while you are attending class plus free food and subsidized housing and...after decades of this liberal stupidity guess what it doesn't fucking work. That's the crazy part of these feel good half baked dumb ass liberal ideas, more often than not they have already been tried and failed. What's wrong with liberals anyway?

 

[Wyatt earp]

My quotes not working right now@ the snob bitching about grammar? Why should I care? I hate liberals like you who can not trash an OP or even debate it

Except spelling and grammar. Use your brain and debate me on the OP?or are you just made a conservative had a brain? And can't throw me under the buss except with spelling and grammar

That's it right?

Lmao

 

[Nutz]

Damn don't you understand a return on an investment?

Obama care is a hand out

Not free community colleges, more people making more money more taxes collected

Graduation from community college is not a guarantee of a job, success, or intelligence. A graduate isn't gonna cure cancer...they are going to get a certificate that says they have passed remedial reading, writing, and math classes and can officially screw in a light bulb.

 

[MeBelle]

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Personally, I don't want to pay for it. It is all a mass conspiracy to send young people to liberal institutions.

Yep! When those youngins get ta book learnin', nothin' good can come of it1

You know what I'd like to see?

High Schools turning out students as well educated as they were 20+ years ago!

Seriously!

 

[orogenicman]

My quotes not working right now@ the snob bitching about grammar? Why should I care? I hate liberals like you who can not trash an OP or even debate it

Except spelling and grammar. Use your brain and debate me on the OP?or are you just made a conservative had a brain? And can't throw me under the buss except with spelling and grammar

That's it right?

Lmao

If there was something to debate in the op, I'd be the first to debate it. As it is, all you've posted is unintelligible drivel that is poorly written. When you do manage to learn the language, get back to us, will you?

 

[MeBelle]

Damn don't you understand a return on an investment?

Obama care is a hand out

Not free community colleges, more people making more money more taxes collected

Graduation from community college is not a guarantee of a job, success, or intelligence. A graduate isn't gonna cure cancer...they are going to get a certificate that says they have passed remedial reading, writing, and math classes and can officially screw in a light bulb.

That's about right, these days!

 

[Nutz]

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. Gee, and it isn't even make up shit Thursday.

You know jack shit like most libs. I work over 400 hours of overtime a year and the size of the check I write the federal government to pay for your liberal so called 'free' crap is enormous.

I am not a lib...but it i not my fault that you have to work overtime to make ends meet. Perhaps you should have gotten a college education so you don't have to work so many hours. As a matter of fact...I just assume you quit and go on welfare instead of getting the idea that you are the sole supporter of welfare recipient. Of course...if you were smart...you would be able to figure out how much overtime to work before you get bumped up to a new tax bracket and lose all of that money to taxes.

 

[Anathema]

The Federal Government has no legitimate mandate to spend ANY money on Education. It's not in the Constitution; pure and simple.

 

[Katzndogz]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

show proof of you sending in your weekly paychecks to fund it then the "cons" might consider it. you do realize, Guberment doesn't have it's own MONEY TREES they pluck all this money to pay for all this "free stuff" right?
TAXPAYERS already pay for enough. Pay you're own way through more education and stop wanting other to do it for you

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Steph a major return on the investment hell Germany knows

America is not Germany. The German people are an industrious people who take pride in their accomplishments. American students enter college unable to spell or do simple arithmetic. Corrections on class work is micro aggression and racial attacks. Germans like to work. They like to do a good job. Neither is true of most Americans.

 

[BluesLegend]

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. Gee, and it isn't even make up shit Thursday.

You know jack shit like most libs. I work over 400 hours of overtime a year and the size of the check I write the federal government to pay for your liberal so called 'free' crap is enormous.

Again, for those who are having a hard time understanding basic English:

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. But you are right. I do know Jack Schitt:

You fail at math. Go ahead tell us how its 'free'. Meanwhile my choices are A) work overtime to pay for all the liberal hand outs or B) have my taxes raised to pay for all the liberal hand outs. As I pay the bills those are my two choices. So I work overtime while the deadbeats sit around on their ass, yeah I'm getting tired of that.

 

[Freewill]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

How does free CC solve 6 and 7? Are you really talking about free Vo-Tech? If so, right now that training isn't all that expensive.

 

[BluesLegend]

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. Gee, and it isn't even make up shit Thursday.

You know jack shit like most libs. I work over 400 hours of overtime a year and the size of the check I write the federal government to pay for your liberal so called 'free' crap is enormous.

I am not a lib...but it i not my fault that you have to work overtime to make ends meet. Perhaps you should have gotten a college education so you don't have to work so many hours. As a matter of fact...I just assume you quit and go on welfare instead of getting the idea that you are the sole supporter of welfare recipient. Of course...if you were smart...you would be able to figure out how much overtime to work before you get bumped up to a new tax bracket and lose all of that money to taxes.

LOL son I pay more in Federal taxes than you earn.

 

[Nutz]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

show proof of you sending in your weekly paychecks to fund it then the "cons" might consider it. you do realize, Guberment doesn't have it's own MONEY TREES they pluck all this money to pay for all this "free stuff" right?
TAXPAYERS already pay for enough. Pay you're own way through more education and stop wanting other to do it for you

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Steph a major return on the investment hell Germany knows

America is not Germany. The German people are an industrious people who take pride in their accomplishments. American students enter college unable to spell or do simple arithmetic. Corrections on class work is micro aggression and racial attacks. Germans like to work. They like to do a good job. Neither is true of most Americans.

What utter bs, you're an anti-American racist idiot. You should move to Germany...your hate would make you fit right in...but something tells me you aren't intelligent enough to learn German.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I get it

The liberals who posted on here won't even touch the OP on the merits of it , they love to be snobs and think a blue collar guy like me has any use for grammar, they are jealous like always

They conservative posters on this thread so far I think don't understand a return on a investment , maybe they do watch to much fox news

 

[Freewill]

Mr. President Obama

I always vote conservative and hate obozo polices with a passion, I think he is the 3 crappy presidents we have ever had Bush Jr. and Jimmy Carter the others

But it he could get this passed I would have respect for him I would put him along with Bill Clinton he had faults but did ok

Now my reasons

1. Any industrial community college done in the 80s is useless on a resume, old technology

2. College degrees of the 70s is useless in most fields on a resume today

3 Germany is kicking our ass, in the high tech industry fields, I know been in injection molding for 30 years

4. What I understand Germany is now offering free 4 year colleges

5 do we want to get further behind Germany in technology?

6. The kids I get at work for the past 15 years are complete idiots with just a high school diploma (not all still some diamonds in the ruff like I was)

7. Way to many single mothers, I know they bust there ass and try real hard, but I have seen so many kids at work with street smarts, that didn't even know what a crescent wrench was

9. Companies today deal in a global market now a Dogg eat Dogg, most companies don't even now give a christmas bonus like they used to much less a turkey on thanks giving
They cant afford the old days of sending there employees to school, like my old boss did with me

10. Cons should embrace this ideal by Mr. President Obama, if you invest in community colleges , you will get a return for your companies smarter and brighter keeping up with new technologies not falling back

11. We have I don't know a million or so of skilled jobs go unfilled because they can not find any one, I know this is true, because read about bosh local bitching about in my local paper

It is a great idea by Mr. President Obama a major return on investment , I am 49 Years old and i want to go back so bad get updated on new tech, but why?

Why should I spend say $8,000 dollars to work at a job making 60 grand a year when I Already make 60 grand a year?

With say a person like me goes back to night school I learn about new tech in automation , plcs and apply it , you can only read so much

So pleading with my fellow cons, back this plan with Mr obama.

show proof of you sending in your weekly paychecks to fund it then the "cons" might consider it. you do realize, Guberment doesn't have it's own MONEY TREES they pluck all this money to pay for all this "free stuff" right?
TAXPAYERS already pay for enough. Pay you're own way through more education and stop wanting other to do it for you

I get the distinct impression that the first two posters (that would necessarily include the OP) could benefit from taking some courses at the proposed community colleges, particularly in grammar. Just sayin...

Steph a major return on the investment hell Germany knows

America is not Germany. The German people are an industrious people who take pride in their accomplishments. American students enter college unable to spell or do simple arithmetic. Corrections on class work is micro aggression and racial attacks. Germans like to work. They like to do a good job. Neither is true of most Americans.

You throw out the baby with the bath water. No all, or even the majority of graduates are like you describe. Are there many, yes there are but their always were. Does everyone graduating high school need to read like an English major? No, they need to find their place in life whether it be vo-tech or a doctor's degree. That is the real problem the alternative is too easy.

 

[Nutz]

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

I strongly suspect that your employer doesn't not require you to work overtime so you can pay for any so-called 'government handouts'. Gee, and it isn't even make up shit Thursday.

You know jack shit like most libs. I work over 400 hours of overtime a year and the size of the check I write the federal government to pay for your liberal so called 'free' crap is enormous.

I am not a lib...but it i not my fault that you have to work overtime to make ends meet. Perhaps you should have gotten a college education so you don't have to work so many hours. As a matter of fact...I just assume you quit and go on welfare instead of getting the idea that you are the sole supporter of welfare recipient. Of course...if you were smart...you would be able to figure out how much overtime to work before you get bumped up to a new tax bracket and lose all of that money to taxes.

LOL son I pay more in Federal taxes than you earn.

Doubtful...sees to me as if you are just a blue collar worker. You will be dead while I am enjoying retirement. I don't have to work countless overtime hours to make ends meet.

 

[Bfgrn]

Education is the cheap defense of nations.
Edmund Burke

 

[PredFan]

There are a lot of problems with the idea proposed by Obama. Some of the main ones are:

It won't be "Free", we all know that.

The idea that it will pay for itself with more taxes being paid by more working people is dubious at best.

If this idea becomes reality then it will reduce the value of a community college education to that of 13th and 14th Grade.

Obama said "if you are willing to work for it". No explanation of what he means by that.

Just four problems off the top of my head.

 

[candycorn]

Okay first of all its not freaking free, I will have to work overtime to pay for this government hand out just like I already work overtime to pay for the other government hand outs. Here's an idea, boot the millions of illegals out of the country and get the millions of American deadbeats off their lazy fat asses who think they are too good to work a job and have them work the jobs illegals are working. Once all the welfare sucking moochers are working a job THEN we can talk about government hand outs that I will have to work overtime to pay for.

And amazingly, you're posting on this message board quite often.... Either you're lying or not really working that hard.

 

[Freewill]

I get it

The liberals who posted on here won't even touch the OP on the merits of it , they love to be snobs and think a blue collar guy like me has any use for grammar, they are jealous like always

They conservative posters on this thread so far I think don't understand a return on a investment , maybe they do watch to much fox news

Why is college so expensive?

Why are most CC's not so expensive?

Nothing is free, it is only a matter of who pays.

And if we do make CC free who's to say the dumb asses that the liberal left calls our HS seniors are even going to attend. By everything I see the cost, right now, is not out of reach for most if not all. This is just more BS from Obama trying to have a legacy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Do you really think I care how much some one earns? Bet you I am more happy then you

A typical liberal thinks money equals happiness

It just makes you content or kill Yourself like Robin Williams