If "price gouging" is happening, why didn't Biden & Harris stop it? (Poll)

[postman]

People were also dealing drugs, and murdering people, doesn't mean we should stop enforcing drug and homicide laws, like Harris and Xiden did with immigration laws.

Actually the problem is that the immigration laws are outdated. With the amnesty portion requiring people to physically enter the country first.

 

[postman]

What impact do regulations and taxes have in your analysis?

The other part of the problem, is that the oil industry has already brainwashed everybody into thinking their pricing system was fair. So the people accepted price gauging as the alternative to gas lines.

 

[Marener]

In the short term, but in the long term the economy slows, decreasing tax revenues and increasing personal debt. Prices are high due to high inflation over the last 3 years. Many need all their paycheck just for sustenance. Raising taxes will only put more pressure on them.

So you believe tax cuts are a free lunch? That’s been consistently proven false. Tax increases may slow economic growth but not enough to increase future deficits.

Most certainly not the case for those of us with private insurance provided by our corporation. If Obamacare is any indication, the cost for those of us that make money will be exorbitant. You speak of lowering the deficit above and then talk about putting everyone on a single payer health system. Taxes would need to be raised significantly on everyone just to maintain the current deficit, much less lowering it. This doesn’t even account for the influx of illegals and migrants crossing the border that would be paying nothing and getting care. Of course another route would be to lower the quality of care by paying doctors much less, which is what the NHS does and why most doctors in the UK are foreign born. The best and the brightest in this country would no longer go that route, thus lowering the quality of care.

You have absolutely no idea how expensive private insurance is compared to government insurance. It’s not even close.

Then let’s let the entire world in for freebees. They can work, under the table, and send money back to their families. We need more workers to lower our costs, right? We will take care of them while they are here, they just won’t have to pay for anything nor be responsible for their own actions since we don’t even know who they are. Doesn’t sound logical does it? Yeah, it’s stupid.

Allowing people to work here is fine. Allowing them to walk across the border with no checks, giving them sanctuary and then pushing for amnesty is just plain dumb, unless the goal is to destroy our sovereignty and ultimately our country, in which case it is brilliant.

This is one giant strawman argument. If allowing people to work here is fine, why does Trump want to deport millions of them who have been working here for years and are important to the economy?

This administration is implementing tariffs and Canada is following suit.

Are you suggesting Trump and Harris are equivalent on pushing tariffs? I don’t think so.

The deficit under this administration is higher than the first 3 years of Trump’s. It is slightly lower than Trump’s 4th year but there was this thing called COVID at that time. I think you know all about inflation during this administration.

The proof is in the pudding. Both inflation and deficit spending were lower under Trump that Biden/Harris, with the exception of the COVID year.

Trump’s policies were far better for the underlying strength of our economy than Biden’s. Harris’ policies are even further left, meaning even worse that Biden

We are talking about policies. Trump is WAY worse.

Trump's Policies Could Add $5.8T To Deficit, Nearly 5X More Than Harris' Plan: Penn Wharton Study

Harris's plan, which includes expanding the Child Tax Credit, and Earned Income Tax Credit, is expected to raise deficits by $2.1 trillion over the next decade.

www.ibtimes.com

Both rates and inflation were low under Trump. Not sure what you are talking about.

I didn’t mention anything about foriegn policy, but Biden’s is disasterous on nearly every level. There is no reason to think it would be better under a Harris administration. They have significantly weakened the US power throughout the world and caused worldwide instability. Our enemies don’t fear us because our leadership is soft as Charmin.

Are you operating under the belief that past performance is indicative of future results? Trump got to be president mostly under pre-COVID economy but is running for president for post-COVID economy. They’re not the same.

You should know that Fed interest rates and money supply affect inflation. This is pretty basic stuff that you don’t know about apparently.

 

[Resnic]

They allow a lot of things to happen so they could then say "hey if you vote for us again we will fix this".

They know if you make people angry, scared or desperate enough they will do anything you say to make the pain go away.

Hanns Scharff, a nazi interrogator also knew this. They would treat prisoners like shit, but when they came to see him he would give them some chocolate, a cigarette, just little meaningless things and they would do what he wanted and even saw him as a friend in some cases. He knew if you beat someone down enough, a few words or gestures would bring them to his side enough to do what he wanted. Its the same thing happening here only on a larger scale. Intentionally hurt people but make it seem like it was someone else, then you come a long and promise to make the pain go away if you simply vote for them.

 

[otto105]

1. Inflation under Trump inflation was about 1.5%

2. Under Biden inflation added about 25% to prices.

3. Families lost about $1,000 a month in buying power under Biden

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics​

QED

The analysis, from Republican members of the U.S. Senate Joint Economic Committee, taps government data such as the Consumer Price Index and Consumer Expenditure Survey to examine the impact of inflation state by state.

Dismissed

 

[kyzr]

Regardless of when they arrived.

You know there were illegal immigrants living in the country before Biden took office, right?

If you read the link since 2021 there were 10,000,000 encounters by the CBP plus about 2,000,000 known "gotaways".

So that is about 12,000,000 new illegals entering the US during Biden's term.

 

[kyzr]

The analysis, from Republican members of the U.S. Senate Joint Economic Committee, taps government data such as the Consumer Price Index and Consumer Expenditure Survey to examine the impact of inflation state by state. Dismissed

Link to prove the analysis incorrect? You can't just "dismiss" something because you don't like the answer.
Here is another source, CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/11/economy/inflation-rate-spending/index.html

US inflation means families are spending $709 more per month than two years ago​

The above CNN article shows $709 lost in 2023, the $1,000 a month lost in 2024 makes numerical sense.

 

[Marener]

If you read the link since 2021 there were 10,000,000 encounters by the CBP plus about 2,000,000 known "gotaways".

So that is about 12,000,000 new illegals entering the US during Biden's term.

An encounter does not mean they’re admitted to the country. Somewhere around half are expelled or kept in custody.

Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org

Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million...

www.factcheck.org

The true number admitted is probably 4-5 million. Increasing the US population by less than 2% over 3 years. Hardly impactful.

 

[otto105]

Link to prove the analysis incorrect? You can't just "dismiss" something because you don't like the answer.
Here is another source, CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/11/economy/inflation-rate-spending/index.html

US inflation means families are spending $709 more per month than two years ago​

The above CNN article shows $709 lost in 2023, the $1,000 a month lost in 2024 makes numerical sense.

The article was based on republic pols putting out their opinion. You also failed to mention that household disposable income was up 16% during the same period.

Dismissed as propaganda and out of date.

 

[kyzr]

An encounter does not mean they’re admitted to the country. Somewhere around half are expelled or kept in custody.
The true number admitted is probably 4-5 million. Increasing the US population by less than 2% over 3 years. Hardly impactful.

Most encounters were let into the country per CBP.

No, 51M 'illegals' have not entered US under Biden, Harris | Fact check

Immigration experts said the number in the post is wrong. Officials reported about 10 million encounters with removable noncitizens since 2021.

www.usatoday.com

By that measure, there have been more than 10.3 million “illegal entries” nationwide since fiscal year 2021, which began in October 2020, Edward Alden, a senior fellow who specializes in immigration policy at the Council on Foreign Relations, said in an email, citing border protection data.

Plus 2,000,000 "gotaways" is about 12,000,000 illegals let into the US by Biden, not even counting the million or so that were flown in.

 

[kyzr]

The article was based on republic pols putting out their opinion. You also failed to mention that household disposable income was up 16% during the same period. Dismissed as propaganda and out of date.

LOL!! So you're going to tell people that their groceries are NOT more expensive under Biden than under Trump.
Their complaining is bullshit.

Good luck with that strategy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/14/philadelphia_mom_inflation_is_killing_us_i_blame_the_federal_government.html

 

[otto105]

LOL!! So you're going to tell people that their groceries are NOT more expensive under Biden than under Trump.
Their complaining is bullshit.

Good luck with that strategy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/14/philadelphia_mom_inflation_is_killing_us_i_blame_the_federal_government.html

How do you reach that point kyr.

I'm pointing out that household disposable income also increased during the same period 16%. Just as your first article mentioned.

I'm also sure that people don't want to return to a worldwide pandemic to reduce inflation. Why do you?

 

[dblack]

This price gouging crap is pure politics, pandering for votes knowing full well they can't or won't do shit about it.

just another iteration of "free shit".

 

[Marener]

Most encounters were let into the country per CBP.

Show the data.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The other part of the problem, is that the oil industry has already brainwashed everybody into thinking their pricing system was fair. So the people accepted price gauging as the alternative to gas lines.

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The other part of the problem, is that the oil industry has already brainwashed everybody into thinking their pricing system was fair. So the people accepted price gauging as the alternative to gas lines.

how is the oil industry pricing system NOT fair? If you ask me, the oil and gas industry assumes tremendous financial and economic risk to bring product to market to make $0.05-$0.07 per unit in profit. Contrast that with the Government that gets $0.18 per unit without any risk. How “fair” is that?

 

[otto105]

That

how is the oil industry pricing system NOT fair? If you ask me, the oil and gas industry assumes tremendous financial and economic risk to bring product to market to make $0.05-$0.07 per unit in profit. Contrast that with the Government that gets $0.18 per unit without any risk. How “fair” is that?

OPEC is fair?

Monopoly is fair?

 

[kyzr]

Show the data.

Adding CBP's FY21-FY24 numbers about 3m were rejected. During that time about 10m total encounters happened, so net 7m were let into the US plus about 2m "gotaways", plus the fly-ins from other countries. So about 10m new illegals during Biden.

CBP Enforcement Statistics

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Beginning in March FY20, OFO Encounters statistics include both Title 8 Inadmissibles and Title 42 Expulsions.

 

[kyzr]

How do you reach that point kyr.

I'm pointing out that household disposable income also increased during the same period 16%. Just as your first article mentioned.

I'm also sure that people don't want to return to a worldwide pandemic to reduce inflation. Why do you?

1. The $1,000 a month net loss of buying power during Biden includes any pay raises.

2. A new pandemic won't reduce inflation dumbass. Firing Harris and electing Trump should help.

 

[otto105]

1. The $1,000 a month net loss of buying power during Biden includes any pay raises.

2. A new pandemic won't reduce inflation dumbass. Firing Harris and electing Trump should help.

Hilarious

 

[Marener]

So about 10m new illegals during Biden.

You’re already walking back from the 15 million you were claiming earlier.

Good.