If the GOP was running a candidate with....

[007]

Are the leftards sure they want to use all the bankrupt socialist nations of Europe as examples of what works?

Works how?

Socialism only works as long as there's OPM, other people's money, for the government to hand out like Santa Claus. When the money runs out, everything is ruined.

There's not one example of a purely socialist nation on the planet that anyone can use an example that it works.

 

[CowboyTed]

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

That Americans have figured out Capitalism is a shit sandwich for most of us? That we look at European Social Democracies and say, "Hey, that looks pretty good."

Pure Capitalism is as stupid as pure Socialism... What is needed is a balance... If the guys here at least admit to that then the discussion is on where the line is. This thing of demonizing socialism is a joke.

So let them run on defunding every social program including the ones I have mentioned...

but you idiots are always saying ALL of our publicly-funded institutions ARE EXAMPLES OF SOCIALISM WE ALREADY HAVE.

so then your "pure capitalism" rhetoric is bullshit and a straw man right?

Well yea.

All publicly-funded institutions are taking taxpayers money and providing a service which is given out not in relation to how much taxes you pay. Therefore are a transfer of wealth from the taxpayers to the consumers of the service.

That is socialism...

 

[bedowin62]

...as much SCANDAL surrounding them as Hillary has, their 'politics of personal destruction' and media would be unmerifully crucifying them right now and would be demanding they drop out.

If a member of the GOP openly declared they were a member of the Socialist party they would demonize them for it....while the Democrats quietly embrace it within their own ranks. 10 years ago there is no way in hell an American would give a Socialist a 2nd thought...but I guess they have gotten used to it the last 7 years.

While the GOP candidates may not be the BEST choices, they are a far better choice than a lying, deceitful, failed, self-serving, scandal-plagued, power-hungry failure and an old self-proclaimed Socialist apostle of Saul Alynski that the Democrats are running as the best their party has to offer.

Oh, brother – more ridiculous whining from the right.

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

Don't like it, don't vote for them.

Democracy.

Social Democracy has been a success all over the world. The Nordic countries as an example. The US has many socialist programs which it relies on to provide services that are needed and wanted by the people.

So you want an end to all socialism. So no roads, defense, police, fire dept.....

You are making yourselves look silly...

you say "all over the world", then cite a less than a half a dozen countries in europe

that's why nobody takes you seriously

Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Korea....

You do make it easy...

and so do you idiot. like i said with england there are things they do there that wouldnt sit well with out left.

FOR EXAMPLE Australia has VERY STRICT IMMIGRATION LAWS

UR A JOKE; and you prove it every day

 

[bedowin62]

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

That Americans have figured out Capitalism is a shit sandwich for most of us? That we look at European Social Democracies and say, "Hey, that looks pretty good."

Pure Capitalism is as stupid as pure Socialism... What is needed is a balance... If the guys here at least admit to that then the discussion is on where the line is. This thing of demonizing socialism is a joke.

So let them run on defunding every social program including the ones I have mentioned...

but you idiots are always saying ALL of our publicly-funded institutions ARE EXAMPLES OF SOCIALISM WE ALREADY HAVE.

so then your "pure capitalism" rhetoric is bullshit and a straw man right?

Well yea.

All publicly-funded institutions are taking taxpayers money and providing a service which is given out not in relation to how much taxes you pay. Therefore are a transfer of wealth from the taxpayers to the consumers of the service.

That is socialism...

so you ADMIT the pure capitalism line was a straw man?

thanks

 

[CowboyTed]

Oh, brother – more ridiculous whining from the right.

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

Don't like it, don't vote for them.

Democracy.

Social Democracy has been a success all over the world. The Nordic countries as an example. The US has many socialist programs which it relies on to provide services that are needed and wanted by the people.

So you want an end to all socialism. So no roads, defense, police, fire dept.....

You are making yourselves look silly...

you say "all over the world", then cite a less than a half a dozen countries in europe

that's why nobody takes you seriously

Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Korea....

You do make it easy...

sure loon; then why arent Americans flocking to immigrate there??

Cause they are Americans... Why would they leave, the US has plenty of Socialist programs too.

 

[bedowin62]

there are more failing and strugging european socialist democracies then successful ones.

libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[CowboyTed]

Oh, brother – more ridiculous whining from the right.

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

Don't like it, don't vote for them.

Democracy.

Social Democracy has been a success all over the world. The Nordic countries as an example. The US has many socialist programs which it relies on to provide services that are needed and wanted by the people.

So you want an end to all socialism. So no roads, defense, police, fire dept.....

You are making yourselves look silly...

you say "all over the world", then cite a less than a half a dozen countries in europe

that's why nobody takes you seriously

Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Korea....

You do make it easy...

and so do you idiot. like i said with england there are things they do there that wouldnt sit well with out left.

FOR EXAMPLE Australia has VERY STRICT IMMIGRATION LAWS

UR A JOKE; and you prove it every day

I don't think you understand democratic socialism. You can have tough immigration laws and also want good social programs like universal healthcare.

 

[bedowin62]

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[JoeB131]

France gets over 75% of it's power from NUCLEAR generation. are you nutjobs for that too???

I have no problem with that.

are you for loser-pays tort law too like say England has? i wonder what the lawyer firms that own the Democrat Party would have to say bout that?

If US courts were as friendly to consumers as UK courts were, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

 

[bedowin62]

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

Don't like it, don't vote for them.

Democracy.

Social Democracy has been a success all over the world. The Nordic countries as an example. The US has many socialist programs which it relies on to provide services that are needed and wanted by the people.

So you want an end to all socialism. So no roads, defense, police, fire dept.....

You are making yourselves look silly...

you say "all over the world", then cite a less than a half a dozen countries in europe

that's why nobody takes you seriously

Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Korea....

You do make it easy...

and so do you idiot. like i said with england there are things they do there that wouldnt sit well with out left.

FOR EXAMPLE Australia has VERY STRICT IMMIGRATION LAWS

UR A JOKE; and you prove it every day

I don't think you understand democratic socialism. You can have tough immigration laws and also want good social programs like universal healthcare.

i understand it fully dummy. my point is all you morons do is whine. in the countries you're citing they do other things the Left here would find unacceptable

 

[bedowin62]

Japan is one of the most homogeneous societies on the planet.

how would that fly with the diversity freaks on the Left??

 

[CowboyTed]

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

That Americans have figured out Capitalism is a shit sandwich for most of us? That we look at European Social Democracies and say, "Hey, that looks pretty good."

Pure Capitalism is as stupid as pure Socialism... What is needed is a balance... If the guys here at least admit to that then the discussion is on where the line is. This thing of demonizing socialism is a joke.

So let them run on defunding every social program including the ones I have mentioned...

but you idiots are always saying ALL of our publicly-funded institutions ARE EXAMPLES OF SOCIALISM WE ALREADY HAVE.

so then your "pure capitalism" rhetoric is bullshit and a straw man right?

Well yea.

All publicly-funded institutions are taking taxpayers money and providing a service which is given out not in relation to how much taxes you pay. Therefore are a transfer of wealth from the taxpayers to the consumers of the service.

That is socialism...

so you ADMIT the pure capitalism line was a straw man?

thanks

But everyday you are on here saying that all socialism is BAD. That is advocating Pure Capitalism. I said balance, I have no problem with Capitalism unlike your stance with Socialism.
It is not like you are saying Medicare motives are right but we need to alter here and there...

 

[bedowin62]

europe's muslims asimiliate even worse than Muslims here

wait time for medical treatment are higher in europe

obama and YOU idiots were recently citing how much better our economy is here than in the european countries you idolize


that's why nobody takes Joe and Ted seriously

 

[CowboyTed]

there are more failing and strugging european socialist democracies then successful ones.

libs are losers who lie to themselves

Some get it right some get it wrong but name a country which has no socialist programs which are successful. Name a country which has no government education program which is successful.

 

[bedowin62]

That Americans have figured out Capitalism is a shit sandwich for most of us? That we look at European Social Democracies and say, "Hey, that looks pretty good."

Pure Capitalism is as stupid as pure Socialism... What is needed is a balance... If the guys here at least admit to that then the discussion is on where the line is. This thing of demonizing socialism is a joke.

So let them run on defunding every social program including the ones I have mentioned...

but you idiots are always saying ALL of our publicly-funded institutions ARE EXAMPLES OF SOCIALISM WE ALREADY HAVE.

so then your "pure capitalism" rhetoric is bullshit and a straw man right?

Well yea.

All publicly-funded institutions are taking taxpayers money and providing a service which is given out not in relation to how much taxes you pay. Therefore are a transfer of wealth from the taxpayers to the consumers of the service.

That is socialism...

so you ADMIT the pure capitalism line was a straw man?

thanks

But everyday you are on here saying that all socialism is BAD. That is advocating Pure Capitalism. I said balance, I have no problem with Capitalism unlike your stance with Socialism.
It is not like you are saying Medicare motives are right but we need to alter here and there...

i guess im just a realist genius. Medicare and the other "entitlement programs" are not what they were meant to be originally

 

[bedowin62]

there are more failing and strugging european socialist democracies then successful ones.

libs are losers who lie to themselves

Some get it right some get it wrong but name a country which has no socialist programs which are successful. Name a country which has no government education program which is successful.

more moronic relativist arguments. we have more government programs that fail then ones that are successful.

the so-called entitlement programs have OVER $100 TRILLION IN UNFUNDED MANDATE LIABILITIES

 

[bedowin62]

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[CrusaderFrank]

Whatever you may have to say about Hillary, the left IS running a self proclaimed socialist. Do you not see what that means?

That Americans have figured out Capitalism is a shit sandwich for most of us? That we look at European Social Democracies and say, "Hey, that looks pretty good."

So move!! Much cheaper to buy you a one way ticket then to collapse the US economy

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

GOP - a party of "victims."

 

[bedowin62]

GOP - a party of "victims."

at this point you're simply laughable

 

[CowboyTed]

Don't like it, don't vote for them.

Democracy.

Social Democracy has been a success all over the world. The Nordic countries as an example. The US has many socialist programs which it relies on to provide services that are needed and wanted by the people.

So you want an end to all socialism. So no roads, defense, police, fire dept.....

You are making yourselves look silly...

you say "all over the world", then cite a less than a half a dozen countries in europe

that's why nobody takes you seriously

Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Korea....

You do make it easy...

and so do you idiot. like i said with england there are things they do there that wouldnt sit well with out left.

FOR EXAMPLE Australia has VERY STRICT IMMIGRATION LAWS

UR A JOKE; and you prove it every day

I don't think you understand democratic socialism. You can have tough immigration laws and also want good social programs like universal healthcare.

i understand it fully dummy. my point is all you morons do is whine. in the countries you're citing they do other things the Left here would find unacceptable

You don't seem to understand what democratic socialism is. You have gone a hate filled rant (which includes insulting a person before you even make a point) and then want to equate everything one country does as socialist because the provide government run Education and Health.
They are finding their balance between Capitalism and Socialism.

Actually things like immigration, social issues... are dealt differently.

P.S. In Ireland nearly all social issues are in our constitution and a popular vote (direct democracy) is used to change it. We have referendums about once every two years(avg).No way would we be stuck with what someone said 200 years ago.