If You Believe in Abortion You Are Not Catholic And Cannot Take Communion

If You Believe in Abortion You Are Not Catholic And Cannot Take Communion​


Why not? Not that I have a pig in this race but what specifically is the reasoning?

If a person privately supports abortion they shouldn't receive communion, but they wouldn't be denied because the sin would be between the person and God. One is supposed to be in a sinless state to receive the Eucharist, which for the majority would mean weekly confession.
The Church teaches abortion is a grave sin, one that can result in a person losing their salvation.

Right, so what teachings are specific to abortion?



It's in the book of numbers. 5:11 through 31.

In the book of numbers it gives instructions on how to perform an abortion.

However, the bible says nothing about prohibiting abortion.

The actual text does not mention a pregnancy at all. It simply states the woman's belly would swell and she would become sick.


Actually no. Numbers 5:21 to 22

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

21 Then the priest will put the woman under the oath of the curse and will say to the her, “The LORD make you an attested curse among your people, if the LORD makes your thigh fall away and your abdomen swell; 22 and this water that causes the curse will go into your stomach, and make your abdomen swell and your thigh rot.” Then the woman must say, “Amen, amen.”



There are so many different translations of the bible.

The translation I have read all my life is the one I posted.

I guess it just depends on the bible translation.
There are so many different translations of the bible.

The translation I have read all my life is the one I posted.

I guess it just depends on the bible translation.
That’s the problem for me with religion.
Can there and should there even be translations of the word of god?


Of course there can be translations of the Word of God. Do you know the original Hebrew and Greek?
Of course there can be translations of the Word of God. Do you know the original Hebrew and Greek?
If there are discrepancies in the translations through time, when does it cease to be the word of god and become the word of the translator?
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth an infant or Tallardy in the first world and I don’t care Republicans talking about that or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them or saving them or helping them. You only talk about saving the unborn. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary innocent children in the womb must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.


Genesis also points out that Almighty God put Adam and EVE (not Steve) into the Garden. And also pointed out that Almighty God rubbed out Sodom, a city so intent with butt sex that they named their city after the act. (Sodom derives its name from "sodomy"
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?
According to science, any single celled organism is life. Remember that the next time you wash your hands and abort a billion bacteria.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

My first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. One of the most traumatic events of my life. When I called my doctor to tell him that I was having cramps and spotting he casually said “Oh, it’s probably just an early miscarriage”.

He was very casual and glib about it. He didn’t say anything about trying to save the “baby”. One would think that if an actual baby was involved my doctor would’ve been more concerned for its well-being.

And once again it comes down to if you really cared about the babies, you would care about the higher rate of infant mortality in the first year off life. You’d do “well baby check ups” for new mothers, and ensure universal health care access for pregnant women and their babies.

You don’t take care of the babies that are being born in the United States today. Until you start taking care of them and they can sure they don’t die, you can shut the fuck up about the unborn.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

A parasite, zygote and fetus are all still alive. A life. Science does NOT say life begins at birth. I do not understand why people can't have positions and be honest about them.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
That was a good post. I am telling you, it is all about "effort". It takes not one bit of effort to make proclamations about what other people should do. But taking care of those born children and their mothers, that might take some effort. It might take a few tax dollars.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

A parasite, zygote and fetus are all still alive. A life. Science does NOT say life begins at birth. I do not understand why people can't have positions and be honest about them.

Try destroying a turtle egg on a Florida beach....
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

My first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. One of the most traumatic events of my life. When I called my doctor to tell him that I was having cramps and spotting he casually said “Oh, it’s probably just an early miscarriage”.

He was very casual and glib about it. He didn’t say anything about trying to save the “baby”. One would think that if an actual baby was involved my doctor would’ve been more concerned for its well-being.

And once again it comes down to if you really cared about the babies, you would care about the higher rate of infant mortality in the first year off life. You’d do “well baby check ups” for new mothers, and ensure universal health care access for pregnant women and their babies.

You don’t take care of the babies that are being born in the United States today. Until you start taking care of them and they can sure they don’t die, you can shut the fuck up about the unborn.
I have posted links in many threads and earlier in this thread already. Go back and look it up. I am sorry you lost a baby, that is very difficult as you say. Your doctor being an ass because he could not save the baby is unacceptable and I would hope you changed doctors.

Why is it that taking a bald eagle egg is a federal offense. The same with sea turtles. Why is that if they are not living?
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

A parasite, zygote and fetus are all still alive. A life. Science does NOT say life begins at birth. I do not understand why people can't have positions and be honest about them.

Try destroying a turtle egg on a Florida beach....
Try destroying a turtle egg on a Florida beach...
Why would you want to?
 

If You Believe in Abortion You Are Not Catholic And Cannot Take Communion​


Why not? Not that I have a pig in this race but what specifically is the reasoning?

If a person privately supports abortion they shouldn't receive communion, but they wouldn't be denied because the sin would be between the person and God. One is supposed to be in a sinless state to receive the Eucharist, which for the majority would mean weekly confession.
The Church teaches abortion is a grave sin, one that can result in a person losing their salvation.

Right, so what teachings are specific to abortion?



It's in the book of numbers. 5:11 through 31.

In the book of numbers it gives instructions on how to perform an abortion.

However, the bible says nothing about prohibiting abortion.

The actual text does not mention a pregnancy at all. It simply states the woman's belly would swell and she would become sick.


Actually no. Numbers 5:21 to 22

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

21 Then the priest will put the woman under the oath of the curse and will say to the her, “The LORD make you an attested curse among your people, if the LORD makes your thigh fall away and your abdomen swell; 22 and this water that causes the curse will go into your stomach, and make your abdomen swell and your thigh rot.” Then the woman must say, “Amen, amen.”



There are so many different translations of the bible.

The translation I have read all my life is the one I posted.

I guess it just depends on the bible translation.
There are so many different translations of the bible.

The translation I have read all my life is the one I posted.

I guess it just depends on the bible translation.
That’s the problem for me with religion.
Can there and should there even be translations of the word of god?
Pretty convoluted instructions from the cat who ordered the quantum universe.


The bible isn't the word of the christian god.

It's the word of the people who wrote it, John, Paul, Matthew, etc.

I agree that there shouldn't be different translations for the bible. What one bible says can be very different from what another one says.
 
I believe allowing the owner of the baby factory the choice to terminate a developing fetus as opposed to forcing her to bring a new life into the world, and the science to safely do that, while persevering the baby factory for future use, sets us apart from all the other animals in natures kingdom.
Phooey! Babies are not made in a factory, asshat. Beyond that insanity, calling a woman a 'baby factory' reflects your low regard for good men and women having children and raising families.
 
The bible isn't the word of the christian god.

It's the word of the people who wrote it, John, Paul, Matthew, etc.

I agree that there shouldn't be different translations for the bible. What one bible says can be very different from what another one says.
The Bible is a reflection of the human concept of God. I doesn't matter if one believes God actually exists, He exists as a concept of how to live, work and thrive with other human beings. The idea of an all powerful entity transcends human greed and frailty which will undermine and kill a thriving society.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

How would she know? She's utterly ignorant of science, beyond what her masters tell her to "know" about it.

Ask her about her talking points and whether she disagrees with them, and she might be able to answer.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

My first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. One of the most traumatic events of my life. When I called my doctor to tell him that I was having cramps and spotting he casually said “Oh, it’s probably just an early miscarriage”.

He was very casual and glib about it. He didn’t say anything about trying to save the “baby”. One would think that if an actual baby was involved my doctor would’ve been more concerned for its well-being.

And once again it comes down to if you really cared about the babies, you would care about the higher rate of infant mortality in the first year off life. You’d do “well baby check ups” for new mothers, and ensure universal health care access for pregnant women and their babies.

You don’t take care of the babies that are being born in the United States today. Until you start taking care of them and they can sure they don’t die, you can shut the fuck up about the unborn.

What you just said, "YOU are going to have to provide a link, but I get to just make wild assertions of fact without proving anything. And look what a pitiful victim I am, you HAVE to agree with me or you're mean. My sob story is all the evidence I need!"
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

My first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. One of the most traumatic events of my life. When I called my doctor to tell him that I was having cramps and spotting he casually said “Oh, it’s probably just an early miscarriage”.

He was very casual and glib about it. He didn’t say anything about trying to save the “baby”. One would think that if an actual baby was involved my doctor would’ve been more concerned for its well-being.

And once again it comes down to if you really cared about the babies, you would care about the higher rate of infant mortality in the first year off life. You’d do “well baby check ups” for new mothers, and ensure universal health care access for pregnant women and their babies.

You don’t take care of the babies that are being born in the United States today. Until you start taking care of them and they can sure they don’t die, you can shut the fuck up about the unborn.
I have posted links in many threads and earlier in this thread already. Go back and look it up. I am sorry you lost a baby, that is very difficult as you say. Your doctor being an ass because he could not save the baby is unacceptable and I would hope you changed doctors.

Why is it that taking a bald eagle egg is a federal offense. The same with sea turtles. Why is that if they are not living?

Both species are endangered and every potential life should be given the opportunity to become a life.

Humans are not endangered. Not in the slightest. We are a danger to ourselves and others. It is illegal for us to kill endangered species because we are the ones who endangered them in the first place.
 
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.
It depends on the situation doesn't. If a woman aborts her pregnancy she's a cold blooded murderer but if we kill some kids in an airstrike in some war zone we just calmly dismiss it as an unavoidable part of war, collateral damage..no big deal.
Don't even try to compare the two. A baby in a womb is innocent. When we launch airstrikes against the enemies of liberty it's because they are complete assholes.
I would reject your communion in a heartbeat. Yeah that would be the heartbeat of the child you want to MURDER!
Do you really think our VP should knuckle under to the kiddy diddling Catholic church? You're probably not even Catholic.
Born and raised. He should go with the Church. But he won't because he is a piece of shit. Either you're loyal or you're not. Baby murder is not Christian.

Abortion is not “baby murder”. A baby is alive and breathing. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, says that when Adam was fully formed, God breathed life into him. Life begins at the first breath.

According to the Catholic Church, a baby in the womb is not innocent either. It carries the mark of “original sin”. The child cannot be considered innocent until it has been baptized. An unbaptized infant cannot be buried in a Catholic cemetery.

I find it laughable when Republicans talk about saving innocent babies. These are the people who vote against universal healthcare. You have the highest rate of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality in the first year of life, in the first world. I don’t hear Republicans talking about these issues, or doing anything to reduce the number of women and babies who are dying.

These women and their children are loved and wanted but you don’t even talk about them, or saving them or even helping them. You only talk about saving the “unborn”. That’s why no one takes you seriously. Real babies and their mothers are dying and you don’t care but these imaginary “innocent children in the womb” must be saved.

When you start caring about real babies and their mothers who are dying, I’ll take you seriously on the abortion matter.
According to science life begins at conception. Do you disagree with science?

You’re gonna have to provide a link or science calls “gestation” or says a fetus is anything but a parasite.

According to science life begins at birth. Science calls the initial phase of human development a “zygote”. The next phase is a called a “fetus” and the whole process is call “gestation”.

My first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. One of the most traumatic events of my life. When I called my doctor to tell him that I was having cramps and spotting he casually said “Oh, it’s probably just an early miscarriage”.

He was very casual and glib about it. He didn’t say anything about trying to save the “baby”. One would think that if an actual baby was involved my doctor would’ve been more concerned for its well-being.

And once again it comes down to if you really cared about the babies, you would care about the higher rate of infant mortality in the first year off life. You’d do “well baby check ups” for new mothers, and ensure universal health care access for pregnant women and their babies.

You don’t take care of the babies that are being born in the United States today. Until you start taking care of them and they can sure they don’t die, you can shut the fuck up about the unborn.
I have posted links in many threads and earlier in this thread already. Go back and look it up. I am sorry you lost a baby, that is very difficult as you say. Your doctor being an ass because he could not save the baby is unacceptable and I would hope you changed doctors.

Why is it that taking a bald eagle egg is a federal offense. The same with sea turtles. Why is that if they are not living?

Both species are endangered and every potential life should be given the opportunity to become a life.

Humans are not endangered. Not in the slightest. We are a danger to ourselves and others. It is illegal for us to kill endangered species because we are the ones who endangered them in the first place.

Life is life you stupid bitch
 

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