If you do Not Support Ukraine Ceding Territory to Russia to End the War and the Killing, What is Your Plan?

first off its ukraines choice not trumps,,
If we have no say, then we have no business there at all.
and if you ignored the propaganda coming out of the fake news media that putin wanted to take over the world you would know this was putins plan all along,,

biden feeding the war machine has caused a lot of useless deaths,,
I agree. I support Trump's plan for a peaceful end.
 
Cool.

So answer the question in the OP.

Every decent person who knows what this war is really about wants Russia to assume full control .
We are sick of the US running this place as a centre for money laundering and sex trafficking .
And getting rid of the 30 plus US financed and run bio- labs could probably end up saving the whole world .

And that still leaves getting rid of all the Fourth Reich Nazis who are fully integrated into the laundering and trafficking operations
 
Yes. I agree. Does Putin?
Putin is Sabre rattling

Even he knows he would be on the losing side of a nuclear exchange.

NATO has been sitting out so far. Going nuclear would bring the wrath of full NATO engagement.

He would also lose any good will with China
 
Putin is Sabre rattling

Even he knows he would be on the losing side of a nuclear exchange.

NATO has been sitting out so far. Going nuclear would bring the wrath of full NATO engagement.

He would also lose any good will with China
There aren’t any winners in a nuclear exchange
 
This queston came up when one of my relatives at the T'Giving table said that Trump's plan is to give Russia the approx 18% of Ukraine that they now occupy. No idea if that is Trump's plan or not, but this relative thought it was. I asked him what his idea was.

His suggestion seemed unworkable, but at family gatherings, I only ask questions about politics, I don't argue politics.

What is your plan?
You can't give what you don't have!

It's not Trump's land to give.
 
Only thing Putin is burning are NATO weapons and it's proxy army, and the dumb US tax payer is footing the bill, they really are stupid people.:TH_WAY~113:
Those NATO weapons are killing a lot of Russians

Meanwhile, Putin is begging N Korea for their hand me downs
 
You can't give what you don't have!

It's not Trump's land to give.
True, but it is the American people's money, equipment and lives to give.

Hopefully, lives are off the table as soon as Trump takes office. The money and leverage can be used to influence Dictator Zelensky into accepting a compromise.

Beauty part is that if he doesn't, we can wash our hands of Ukraine with no further losses to us.
 
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There aren’t any winners in a nuclear exchange
Actually....
Russia is a paper tiger.

Since the original construction of Russian land based nukes they have not upgraded or refurbished them. (Which is an expensive process running into the billions).

The USA spends 50 billion/yr on just maintaining its nukes....not the entire military budget which is a much larger number.
Russian military entire budget spending prior to 2020 was 50 billion dollars/yr and has more land based nukes than the USA. (Meaning they are not going to work.)

Now with Russia losing two Naval bases that remain thawed out year round....they are in real trouble.
 
Actually....
Russia is a paper tiger.

Since the original construction of Russian land based nukes they have not upgraded or refurbished them. (Which is an expensive process running into the billions).

The USA spends 50 billion/yr on just maintaining its nukes....not the entire military budget which is a much larger number.
Russian military entire budget spending prior to 2020 was 50 billion dollars/yr and has more land based nukes than the USA. (Meaning they are not going to work.)

Now with Russia losing two Naval bases that remain thawed out year round....they are in real trouble.
You want to take that risk? I do Not.
 
And what compromise is Russia expected to make?
Stop killing Ukrainians in an attempt to get all of Ukraine, would be my negotiating position, informing the Ruskies that accepting this concession will mean we won't keep sending long-range weapons to Dictator Zelensky.
 

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