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The European powers did not conquer Africa or India to spread Christianity. In fact, the British crown had no interest in converting any of its subjects to Christianity. Spanish missionaries travelled along with the Conquistadores, the later only cared about acquiring wealth and power. They didn't give a damn about saving souls. In fact, the converted most of the native populations into slaves and worked the majority of them to death.
Christians conquered Europe to spread Christianity which they did by the sword.
You do realize slavery is rationalized in the bible - it's legit for Christians to enslave.
No, Christians did not "conquer" Europe. It has already been conquered by the Romans. They later became Christians.
not exactly-----romans who were Christians went ON TO CONQUOR Europe and also imposed Christianity ----when that empire became "Christian"
That's false. Most people in the Roman Empire became Christian by persuasion. The Romans had conquered most of year before the year 0, BCE.
not really.......GAUL the part of the british isles is not ALL OF EUROPE----furthermore-----THE LAWS OF CONSTANTINE-----(canon law) became
the law of the roman empire -------that law penalized non-Christians------
THAT is how Christianity was foisted on large parts of Europe
They didn't do it for the purpose of converting the population to Christianity, dipstick. That was an afterthought, and only the Spanish demonstrated any zeal at converting the native population to Christianity. The Dutch, British and French were only interest in material gain.
hichW can also apply to Islam - a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith. Every argument you make in defense of Christianity can be made for Islam.
that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.
If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.
What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?
And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?
You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
The European powers did not conquer Africa or India to spread Christianity. In fact, the British crown had no interest in converting any of its subjects to Christianity. Spanish missionaries travelled along with the Conquistadores, the later only cared about acquiring wealth and power. They didn't give a damn about saving souls. In fact, the converted most of the native populations into slaves and worked the majority of them to death.
Christians conquered Europe to spread Christianity which they did by the sword.
You do realize slavery is rationalized in the bible - it's legit for Christians to enslave.
No, Christians did not "conquer" Europe. It has already been conquered by the Romans. They later became Christians.
not exactly-----romans who were Christians went ON TO CONQUOR Europe and also imposed Christianity ----when that empire became "Christian"
That's false. Most people in the Roman Empire became Christian by persuasion. The Romans had conquered most of year before the year 0, BCE.
Persuasion like this?
Christian Persecution of Pagans and Heathens - Bad News About Christianity
Christians conquered Europe to spread Christianity which they did by the sword.
You do realize slavery is rationalized in the bible - it's legit for Christians to enslave.
No, Christians did not "conquer" Europe. It has already been conquered by the Romans. They later became Christians.
not exactly-----romans who were Christians went ON TO CONQUOR Europe and also imposed Christianity ----when that empire became "Christian"
That's false. Most people in the Roman Empire became Christian by persuasion. The Romans had conquered most of year before the year 0, BCE.
not really.......GAUL the part of the british isles is not ALL OF EUROPE----furthermore-----THE LAWS OF CONSTANTINE-----(canon law) became
the law of the roman empire -------that law penalized non-Christians------
THAT is how Christianity was foisted on large parts of Europe
All the laws of Constantine did was outlaw persecution of Christians.
The Roman empire included Britain, Span, Portugal, France, Holland, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and part of Germany. That is most of Europe.
They didn't do it for the purpose of converting the population to Christianity, dipstick. That was an afterthought, and only the Spanish demonstrated any zeal at converting the native population to Christianity. The Dutch, British and French were only interest in material gain.
hichW can also apply to Islam - a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith. Every argument you make in defense of Christianity can be made for Islam.
that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.
If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.
What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?
And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?
You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
No, Christians did not "conquer" Europe. It has already been conquered by the Romans. They later became Christians.
not exactly-----romans who were Christians went ON TO CONQUOR Europe and also imposed Christianity ----when that empire became "Christian"
That's false. Most people in the Roman Empire became Christian by persuasion. The Romans had conquered most of year before the year 0, BCE.
not really.......GAUL the part of the british isles is not ALL OF EUROPE----furthermore-----THE LAWS OF CONSTANTINE-----(canon law) became
the law of the roman empire -------that law penalized non-Christians------
THAT is how Christianity was foisted on large parts of Europe
All the laws of Constantine did was outlaw persecution of Christians.
The Roman empire included Britain, Span, Portugal, France, Holland, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and part of Germany. That is most of Europe.
wrong----the laws of Constantine penalized non Christians to the point of GENOCIDE
We have around two million Muslims in America
As a group, they tend to be well educated, family focused and law abiding
all true-----but even from secularized muslim families-------a CALIPHATIST can
(and a lot TOO OFTEN) does arise. Caliphatism is as central to Islamic ethos
as "jesus saves" is to christianity
true, but the difference is significant. Christians are not instructed to destroy non-Christians, whereas muslims are not considered good muslims unless they vow and practice the destruction on non-muslims.
Now, it is true that many American muslims to no follow those teachings. But it only takes a few like the San Bernardino and Ft Hood shooters.
To pretend that this is not a problem is very very naïve and dangerous.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
Perhaps someone should tell you the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
hichW can also apply to Islam - a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith. Every argument you make in defense of Christianity can be made for Islam.
that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.
If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.
What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?
And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?
You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
more than 90% of the jewish population of Iran (a community that predates islam
by more than 1000 years----has fled Islamic oppression there since 1950. Indonesia----which HAD a jewish population dating back ----about 1000 years---
has declared Judaism "NOT LEGAL" and destroyed the countries ancient synagogues.-------TUNISIA-----did it too----since about 1950. Thanks for your
concern, Iran has destroyed its Zoroastrian population and its bahai population,
almost COMPLETELY while claiming "religious freedom" (halal style)
I enjoyed your "just a few"-----even your "just a few" do not come close to
religious freedom
not exactly-----romans who were Christians went ON TO CONQUOR Europe and also imposed Christianity ----when that empire became "Christian"
That's false. Most people in the Roman Empire became Christian by persuasion. The Romans had conquered most of year before the year 0, BCE.
not really.......GAUL the part of the british isles is not ALL OF EUROPE----furthermore-----THE LAWS OF CONSTANTINE-----(canon law) became
the law of the roman empire -------that law penalized non-Christians------
THAT is how Christianity was foisted on large parts of Europe
All the laws of Constantine did was outlaw persecution of Christians.
The Roman empire included Britain, Span, Portugal, France, Holland, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and part of Germany. That is most of Europe.
wrong----the laws of Constantine penalized non Christians to the point of GENOCIDE
Wrong.
Fourth Century Christianity Home » Imperial Laws and Letters Involving Religion, AD 311-364
that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.
If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.
What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?
And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?
You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
more than 90% of the jewish population of Iran (a community that predates islam
by more than 1000 years----has fled Islamic oppression there since 1950. Indonesia----which HAD a jewish population dating back ----about 1000 years---
has declared Judaism "NOT LEGAL" and destroyed the countries ancient synagogues.-------TUNISIA-----did it too----since about 1950. Thanks for your
concern, Iran has destroyed its Zoroastrian population and its bahai population,
almost COMPLETELY while claiming "religious freedom" (halal style)
I enjoyed your "just a few"-----even your "just a few" do not come close to
religious freedom
As I pointed out - "religious freedom" is primarily a western concept you won't find it in much of the rest of the world - Muslim or non-Muslim. In much of Asia, Africa, Middle East - it's a very restricted freedom.
Edited to add this map:
What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?
And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?
You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
more than 90% of the jewish population of Iran (a community that predates islam
by more than 1000 years----has fled Islamic oppression there since 1950. Indonesia----which HAD a jewish population dating back ----about 1000 years---
has declared Judaism "NOT LEGAL" and destroyed the countries ancient synagogues.-------TUNISIA-----did it too----since about 1950. Thanks for your
concern, Iran has destroyed its Zoroastrian population and its bahai population,
almost COMPLETELY while claiming "religious freedom" (halal style)
I enjoyed your "just a few"-----even your "just a few" do not come close to
religious freedom
As I pointed out - "religious freedom" is primarily a western concept you won't find it in much of the rest of the world - Muslim or non-Muslim. In much of Asia, Africa, Middle East - it's a very restricted freedom.
Edited to add this map:
yes----you did "POINT OUT" that false allegation
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
more than 90% of the jewish population of Iran (a community that predates islam
by more than 1000 years----has fled Islamic oppression there since 1950. Indonesia----which HAD a jewish population dating back ----about 1000 years---
has declared Judaism "NOT LEGAL" and destroyed the countries ancient synagogues.-------TUNISIA-----did it too----since about 1950. Thanks for your
concern, Iran has destroyed its Zoroastrian population and its bahai population,
almost COMPLETELY while claiming "religious freedom" (halal style)
I enjoyed your "just a few"-----even your "just a few" do not come close to
religious freedom
As I pointed out - "religious freedom" is primarily a western concept you won't find it in much of the rest of the world - Muslim or non-Muslim. In much of Asia, Africa, Middle East - it's a very restricted freedom.
Edited to add this map:
yes----you did "POINT OUT" that false allegation
What's false about it?
Shouldn't a source be provided? I wonder why the OP didn't link to his source.
The mind reels...
Comments?
CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?????
This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!
Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
Shouldn't a source be provided? I wonder why the OP didn't link to his source.
The mind reels...
What part do you disagree with? I thought liberals were well-versed in Islam since so many defend it on a daily basis.
I thought it was well known that they do not acknowledge other religions as being genuine. Those who follow sharia law cannot possibly follow our constitution because they do not allow freedoms for women. Liberals know that, but don't care about Muslim women's rights. I guess for some women, it's enough to have whatever freedom the men say you need. Okay to turn a blind eye when women are beaten and treated like dirt. Hey, that's just how Muslims roll and we should mind our own business.
A few women who have escaped Islam have had horror stories to tell about their lives under sharia law. It falls on deaf ears where the left is concerned. Some women who denounced Islam were later killed for shaming their families. So it goes. And the liberals don't want to listen to the women.
If a person can't respect women's rights, religious freedom and freedom of speech, they can never be true Americans. And if people with that evil mindset ever become the majority or get elected, they will seek to destroy our constitution. But the left thinks being nice will make them renounce the oppressive parts of their religion and respect us.
Polls consistently show that most believe in sharia and a large percent believe it should be a crime to insult Islam. Many of those think death is a suitable punishment for offending them. Love how Obama said that the "death to America' signs aren't anything to worry about since it's just something they do, but they don't really mean it. Forget all those murdered gays and infidels, they don't really mean anything by it.
We have around two million Muslims in America
As a group, they tend to be well educated, family focused and law abiding
all true-----but even from secularized muslim families-------a CALIPHATIST can
(and a lot TOO OFTEN) does arise. Caliphatism is as central to Islamic ethos
as "jesus saves" is to christianity
true, but the difference is significant. Christians are not instructed to destroy non-Christians, whereas muslims are not considered good muslims unless they vow and practice the destruction on non-muslims.
Now, it is true that many American muslims to no follow those teachings. But it only takes a few like the San Bernardino and Ft Hood shooters.
To pretend that this is not a problem is very very naïve and dangerous.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
Perhaps someone should tell you the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
I do see a difference------what do you imagine is the difference?
that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.
If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.
What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?
And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?
You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.
If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.
Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.
Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.
Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.
Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.
Those a just a few.
more than 90% of the jewish population of Iran (a community that predates islam
by more than 1000 years----has fled Islamic oppression there since 1950. Indonesia----which HAD a jewish population dating back ----about 1000 years---
has declared Judaism "NOT LEGAL" and destroyed the countries ancient synagogues.-------TUNISIA-----did it too----since about 1950. Thanks for your
concern, Iran has destroyed its Zoroastrian population and its bahai population,
almost COMPLETELY while claiming "religious freedom" (halal style)
I enjoyed your "just a few"-----even your "just a few" do not come close to
religious freedom
As I pointed out - "religious freedom" is primarily a western concept
all true-----but even from secularized muslim families-------a CALIPHATIST can
(and a lot TOO OFTEN) does arise. Caliphatism is as central to Islamic ethos
as "jesus saves" is to christianity
true, but the difference is significant. Christians are not instructed to destroy non-Christians, whereas muslims are not considered good muslims unless they vow and practice the destruction on non-muslims.
Now, it is true that many American muslims to no follow those teachings. But it only takes a few like the San Bernardino and Ft Hood shooters.
To pretend that this is not a problem is very very naïve and dangerous.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
Perhaps someone should tell you the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
I do see a difference------what do you imagine is the difference?
The OT was written by and adhered to by the Jews. The NT is about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
true, but the difference is significant. Christians are not instructed to destroy non-Christians, whereas muslims are not considered good muslims unless they vow and practice the destruction on non-muslims.
Now, it is true that many American muslims to no follow those teachings. But it only takes a few like the San Bernardino and Ft Hood shooters.
To pretend that this is not a problem is very very naïve and dangerous.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
Perhaps someone should tell you the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
I do see a difference------what do you imagine is the difference?
The OT was written by and adhered to by the Jews. The NT is about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
So the Jews are nuts and Catholics are geniuses?
