Interesting article on muslims in america

[NYcarbineer]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

Wrong, either you follow sharia law or US law. You cannot do both. If you do not follow sharia law, then you are not a good muslim.

Islam is not compatible with US law.

It's not up to you to decide that. You idiot.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Question? Can you be a good American?
Muslim's may not be good Americans but they could be good United States Citizens.

Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.

Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.

Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.

Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.

Those a just a few.

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

So is fundamentalist Christianity.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Question? Can you be a good American?
Muslim's may not be good Americans but they could be good United States Citizens.

Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.

Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.

Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.

Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.

Those a just a few.

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

The Presbyterian Church now accepts and recognizes same sex marriage. Does that mean Presbyterians are no longer Christians?

 

[Redfish]

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

 

[Redfish]

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

So is fundamentalist Christianity.

NO its not. Unless you are calling idiots like Westboro Baptist fundamentalists. Those morons are not practicing Christianity.

 

[Redfish]

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

The Presbyterian Church now accepts and recognizes same sex marriage. Does that mean Presbyterians are no longer Christians?

That's up to God to decide, not me.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

How do you know what is required to be a Muslim?

 

[Redfish]

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

How do you know what is required to be a Muslim?

I lived in muslim countries, worked with muslims. Where does your knowledge come from?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

So is fundamentalist Christianity.

NO its not. Unless you are calling idiots like Westboro Baptist fundamentalists. Those morons are not practicing Christianity.

Now you are also the arbiter of what is and isn't Christian?

 

[NYcarbineer]

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

How do you know what is required to be a Muslim?

I lived in muslim countries, worked with muslims. Where does your knowledge come from?

No, you're an anonymous clown on the internet who is claiming he lived in Muslim countries. You are so wrong about so many things that such a claim is comically irrelevant anyway.

 

[Wilbur Right]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

So is fundamentalist Christianity.

NO its not. Unless you are calling idiots like Westboro Baptist fundamentalists. Those morons are not practicing Christianity.

Redfish

I though George W Bush was the "decider"?

But I keep reading where YOU think you are the decider.

You decided the American Muslims arent Muslims if they follow US law.

And the Westboro crazies arent "christians".

And on and on.

But I have read enough of your drivel to have decided that you are an idiot.

My decision is final. You provided the proof.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

The Presbyterian Church now accepts and recognizes same sex marriage. Does that mean Presbyterians are no longer Christians?

That's up to God to decide, not me.

So the Bible doesn't have a say on what is or isn't a Christian?

How then did Kim Davis decide that she had to deny same sex marriage licenses because of her faith? Her Christian faith?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

The Presbyterian Church now accepts and recognizes same sex marriage. Does that mean Presbyterians are no longer Christians?

That's up to God to decide, not me.

So you're only the decider when it comes to defining a Muslim.

lol, classic.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

How do you know what is required to be a Muslim?

I lived in muslim countries, worked with muslims. Where does your knowledge come from?

Well then tell us which are the true Muslims,

the Sunni or the Shia?

 

[boilermaker55]

Again, you are projecting bull shit on a thread. tea bagger stuff!

Question? Can you be a good American?
Muslim's may not be good Americans but they could be good United States Citizens.

Comments?






CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?????


This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.


Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!


Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.

hichW can also apply to Islam - a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith. Every argument you make in defense of Christianity can be made for Islam.

that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.

If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.

What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?

And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?

You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.

If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.

Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.

Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.

Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.

Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.

Those a just a few.

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

 

[boilermaker55]

You shouldn't ask him a question that he can load with tea bagger BS! LOL

Question? Can you be a good American?
Muslim's may not be good Americans but they could be good United States Citizens.

Comments?






CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?????


This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.


Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!


Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.

that is simply a lie. There are no Christian churches or Jewish synagoges in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Religions other than Islam are not allowed to exist in those muslim countries.

If you doubt that, try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia or hold a Christian service in Iran.

What specifically is a "lie"? That "a lot of times, Jews and Christians were allowed to practice their faith" under Islamic rule"? Do you think that the culture in two countries overrules 1300 years of history?

And while we're looking at history why don't you enlighten us on how wonderfully Muslims and Jews were treated under Christian conquest?

You might want to do a bit of research:
List of synagogues in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christianity in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're basing your entire thesis on Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is the classic example because it is the home of the muslim religion. But pick any muslim country that you wish, then tell us which one allows the free practice of
Christianity or Judaism. You won't find one.

If you think Christians and Jews are free to practice their faith in Iran, then I have some valuable swamp land to sell you.

Saudi Arabia is one country only - and not even the most populous. As far as recognizing, allowing free worship of other religions that varies from country to country. Even non-Muslim countries don't always allow for the free worship of non-nation recognized religion. Religious tolerance is very much a western ideal and the lack of such around the world makes it even more compelling that we fight to protect it here.

Iran has Christian and Jewish populations, who are able to practice their religion though they are subject to the same very restrictive laws as everyone else.

Indonesia allows for the free practice of state recognized religions - of which only 6 are recognized as state religions and seem to allow the free worship of a number of other minority faiths.

Tajikistan is overwhelmingly Muslim but has a tiny Christian and Jewish minority that is allowed to worship freely and the government cracks down on Islamic extremism.

Those a just a few.

Do you realize what those cites actually say? They say that Christians and Jews can practice their religions as long as they comply with sharia law. Sharia law in is direct conflict with every religion except islam. So, once again, you are wrong.

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

So a Muslim in America simply has to comply with our laws like anyone else.

Like Kim Davis does, for instance, no matter what she might think her religion entitles her to do...

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

Do all your Muslim friends comply with the 'requirements' of Islam?

 

[Claudette]

Sure they can be good Americans.

As long as being a good American doesn't get in the way of their religion.

 

[Redfish]

The US does not have a system of law that is based on a religion. US law allows for the practice of all religions as long as those practices do not violate civil law. Beheading for instance is illegal, stoning is illegal, genital mutilation of little girls is illegal. BUT, those 3 practices are legal under sharia law.

Do you get it now?

"What do we do in the US when religious practices conflict with the law?" - yet you don't answer the question.

Christians Mosaic law, Jews Halakha. Catholics have Cannon Law. All seem perfectly able to follow it within the framework of the Constitution. No one is calling for stoning adulterers or disobedient children for example. Why do you think that Americans who are Muslim are incapable of doing so when they very clearly are?

The point, which you libs have so much trouble understanding, is that someone who follows muslim law and obeys the teachings of the Koran cannot follow and obey US law because the two are in direct conflict in many areas.

So is fundamentalist Christianity.

NO its not. Unless you are calling idiots like Westboro Baptist fundamentalists. Those morons are not practicing Christianity.

Now you are also the arbiter of what is and isn't Christian?

the doctrines of Christianity and Islam are well known. They were written thousands of years ago. The Bible and the Koran can be read by anyone who is interested.

It is not up to me or you to decide. The facts are plainly written.

 

[Redfish]

Yes, they do. But in order to comply with American law they must reject the parts of the Koran that require them to follow sharia law. Said another way, a muslim can only be a law abiding American if he/she rejects Islamic teachings.

this is not complicated, except for a biased, prejudiced mind like yours.

All you're saying is that one cannot be a bonafide Muslim extremist/fundamentalist and also comply with all US laws.

All you are saying is that American muslims cannot comply with the requirements of their religion.

How do you know what is required to be a Muslim?

I lived in muslim countries, worked with muslims. Where does your knowledge come from?

No, you're an anonymous clown on the internet who is claiming he lived in Muslim countries. You are so wrong about so many things that such a claim is comically irrelevant anyway.

your second sentence describes you quite well. Nice dodge on answering where your knowledge of islam comes from.

I lived and worked in Bahrain and Kuwait. I understand arabs and muslims better than most americans.