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[Harpy Eagle]

Opinions are more or less meaningless, your number of post and rating is clearly displayed for all to see. They do not tell the same story you do.

I am a numbers guy, do not give me opinion give me facts

Most members on here don’t make many posts, and my ratings actually illustrate this.

I make more than most and rate posts FAR more than most.

I will give you credit, you do mark a shit ton of my post as funny. Not sure that makes you all that active, but if you insist who am I to disagree.

I am involved in a good number of threads day to day in various sub-forums while most members stick to a couple of threads.

Again, ask the moderators.

Just because I don’t post anything for a month or two or four when the forum has abnormally high activity doesn’t mean that I am not very active compared to most.

I am literally posting here when I am at my job because I don’t do anything for like 2 hours of every work day. Most people can’t do that.

Once again, your total number of post on this website are published next to your avatar. While it is a good amount of post, it is far, far from being one of the most active.

I also post during working hours, with the full consent of my employer. I have periods of downtime, ranging from 30 seconds to a couple minutes t, on regular basis throughout the day as programs do their thing. The length of time depends on the size of the data file. If I know it is going to be more than a couple of minutes (some processes take half an hour or longer) I will work on a different project, but if it is only a minute or two it is counter-productive to start another task.

Interesting you are GETTING PAID for posting political/personal material!
You fall into these categories it appears:

The trends are unsettling for HR executives nationwide:
Cyberslacking at Work

• 30 to 40 percent of employee Internet activity is non-work-related, according to IDC Research.
  
  
• Workplace Internet misuse costs U.S. businesses $63 billion in lost productivity annually, according to Websense Inc.
  
  
• Charles Schwab reveals that 72 percent of its customers plan to buy or sell mutual funds over the next six months, and 92 percent of these plan to do so online during work hours.
  
  
• 70 percent of all Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9-to-5 workday, according to SexTracker. This means that one in five employees access cybersex at work.
  
  
• 28 percent of individuals making gift purchases do so from their offices or cubicles, according to Pew Internet and American Life Project.

Employee Internet Management: Now an HR Issue

Not interesting at all, if you ever have a job higher than the level of fry cook at Wendy's you would understand.

Funny that your fellow Trump buttbuddy talked about posting at work yet I am the one you call out...and then you whine about bias at google! What a hypocrite.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Opinions are more or less meaningless, your number of post and rating is clearly displayed for all to see. They do not tell the same story you do.

I am a numbers guy, do not give me opinion give me facts

Most members on here don’t make many posts, and my ratings actually illustrate this.

I make more than most and rate posts FAR more than most.

I will give you credit, you do mark a shit ton of my post as funny. Not sure that makes you all that active, but if you insist who am I to disagree.

I am involved in a good number of threads day to day in various sub-forums while most members stick to a couple of threads.

Again, ask the moderators.

Just because I don’t post anything for a month or two or four when the forum has abnormally high activity doesn’t mean that I am not very active compared to most.

I am literally posting here when I am at my job because I don’t do anything for like 2 hours of every work day. Most people can’t do that.

Once again, your total number of post on this website are published next to your avatar. While it is a good amount of post, it is far, far from being one of the most active.

I also post during working hours, with the full consent of my employer. I have periods of downtime, ranging from 30 seconds to a couple minutes t, on regular basis throughout the day as programs do their thing. The length of time depends on the size of the data file. If I know it is going to be more than a couple of minutes (some processes take half an hour or longer) I will work on a different project, but if it is only a minute or two it is counter-productive to start another task.

Considering that I did not post much at all until just before 2016 and after Stormfront was taken down, my post count is very high.

If you say so.

 

[ptbw forever]

Most members on here don’t make many posts, and my ratings actually illustrate this.

I make more than most and rate posts FAR more than most.

I will give you credit, you do mark a shit ton of my post as funny. Not sure that makes you all that active, but if you insist who am I to disagree.

I am involved in a good number of threads day to day in various sub-forums while most members stick to a couple of threads.

Again, ask the moderators.

Just because I don’t post anything for a month or two or four when the forum has abnormally high activity doesn’t mean that I am not very active compared to most.

I am literally posting here when I am at my job because I don’t do anything for like 2 hours of every work day. Most people can’t do that.

Once again, your total number of post on this website are published next to your avatar. While it is a good amount of post, it is far, far from being one of the most active.

I also post during working hours, with the full consent of my employer. I have periods of downtime, ranging from 30 seconds to a couple minutes t, on regular basis throughout the day as programs do their thing. The length of time depends on the size of the data file. If I know it is going to be more than a couple of minutes (some processes take half an hour or longer) I will work on a different project, but if it is only a minute or two it is counter-productive to start another task.

Interesting you are GETTING PAID for posting political/personal material!
You fall into these categories it appears:

The trends are unsettling for HR executives nationwide:
Cyberslacking at Work

• 30 to 40 percent of employee Internet activity is non-work-related, according to IDC Research.
  
  
• Workplace Internet misuse costs U.S. businesses $63 billion in lost productivity annually, according to Websense Inc.
  
  
• Charles Schwab reveals that 72 percent of its customers plan to buy or sell mutual funds over the next six months, and 92 percent of these plan to do so online during work hours.
  
  
• 70 percent of all Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9-to-5 workday, according to SexTracker. This means that one in five employees access cybersex at work.
  
  
• 28 percent of individuals making gift purchases do so from their offices or cubicles, according to Pew Internet and American Life Project.

Employee Internet Management: Now an HR Issue

Not interesting at all, if you ever have a job higher than the level of fry cook at Wendy's you would understand.

Funny that your fellow Trump buttbuddy talked about posting at work yet I am the one you call out...and then you whine about bias at google! What a hypocrite.

I am a union worker.

Everybody knows that blue collar union workers don’t do very much work.

 

[Papageorgio]

brave.com and duckduckgo. If you like them, support them.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I will give you credit, you do mark a shit ton of my post as funny. Not sure that makes you all that active, but if you insist who am I to disagree.

I am involved in a good number of threads day to day in various sub-forums while most members stick to a couple of threads.

Again, ask the moderators.

Just because I don’t post anything for a month or two or four when the forum has abnormally high activity doesn’t mean that I am not very active compared to most.

I am literally posting here when I am at my job because I don’t do anything for like 2 hours of every work day. Most people can’t do that.

Once again, your total number of post on this website are published next to your avatar. While it is a good amount of post, it is far, far from being one of the most active.

I also post during working hours, with the full consent of my employer. I have periods of downtime, ranging from 30 seconds to a couple minutes t, on regular basis throughout the day as programs do their thing. The length of time depends on the size of the data file. If I know it is going to be more than a couple of minutes (some processes take half an hour or longer) I will work on a different project, but if it is only a minute or two it is counter-productive to start another task.

Interesting you are GETTING PAID for posting political/personal material!
You fall into these categories it appears:

The trends are unsettling for HR executives nationwide:
Cyberslacking at Work

• 30 to 40 percent of employee Internet activity is non-work-related, according to IDC Research.
  
  
• Workplace Internet misuse costs U.S. businesses $63 billion in lost productivity annually, according to Websense Inc.
  
  
• Charles Schwab reveals that 72 percent of its customers plan to buy or sell mutual funds over the next six months, and 92 percent of these plan to do so online during work hours.
  
  
• 70 percent of all Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9-to-5 workday, according to SexTracker. This means that one in five employees access cybersex at work.
  
  
• 28 percent of individuals making gift purchases do so from their offices or cubicles, according to Pew Internet and American Life Project.

Employee Internet Management: Now an HR Issue

Not interesting at all, if you ever have a job higher than the level of fry cook at Wendy's you would understand.

Funny that your fellow Trump buttbuddy talked about posting at work yet I am the one you call out...and then you whine about bias at google! What a hypocrite.

I am a union worker.

Everybody knows that blue collar union workers don’t do very much work.

This is why the factories left!

I on the other hand do a lot of work and always finish ahead of the project plan deadline.

Anyone that has ever done any sort of data analysis knows that when you hit run/process it can take from 3 seconds to 3 hours to complete, depending on the size of the sample and the number of variables. It has been determined that for process that will take less than 2 to 3 minutes starting on a different project ends up lowering the quality of both projects. People do different things to fill in those 2 to 3 minutes.

 

[healthmyths]

I am involved in a good number of threads day to day in various sub-forums while most members stick to a couple of threads.

Again, ask the moderators.

Just because I don’t post anything for a month or two or four when the forum has abnormally high activity doesn’t mean that I am not very active compared to most.

I am literally posting here when I am at my job because I don’t do anything for like 2 hours of every work day. Most people can’t do that.

Once again, your total number of post on this website are published next to your avatar. While it is a good amount of post, it is far, far from being one of the most active.

I also post during working hours, with the full consent of my employer. I have periods of downtime, ranging from 30 seconds to a couple minutes t, on regular basis throughout the day as programs do their thing. The length of time depends on the size of the data file. If I know it is going to be more than a couple of minutes (some processes take half an hour or longer) I will work on a different project, but if it is only a minute or two it is counter-productive to start another task.

Interesting you are GETTING PAID for posting political/personal material!
You fall into these categories it appears:

The trends are unsettling for HR executives nationwide:
Cyberslacking at Work

• 30 to 40 percent of employee Internet activity is non-work-related, according to IDC Research.
  
  
• Workplace Internet misuse costs U.S. businesses $63 billion in lost productivity annually, according to Websense Inc.
  
  
• Charles Schwab reveals that 72 percent of its customers plan to buy or sell mutual funds over the next six months, and 92 percent of these plan to do so online during work hours.
  
  
• 70 percent of all Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9-to-5 workday, according to SexTracker. This means that one in five employees access cybersex at work.
  
  
• 28 percent of individuals making gift purchases do so from their offices or cubicles, according to Pew Internet and American Life Project.

Employee Internet Management: Now an HR Issue

Not interesting at all, if you ever have a job higher than the level of fry cook at Wendy's you would understand.

Funny that your fellow Trump buttbuddy talked about posting at work yet I am the one you call out...and then you whine about bias at google! What a hypocrite.

I am a union worker.

Everybody knows that blue collar union workers don’t do very much work.

This is why the factories left!

I on the other hand do a lot of work and always finish ahead of the project plan deadline.

Anyone that has ever done any sort of data analysis knows that when you hit run/process it can take from 3 seconds to 3 hours to complete, depending on the size of the sample and the number of variables. It has been determined that for process that will take less than 2 to 3 minutes starting on a different project ends up lowering the quality of both projects. People do different things to fill in those 2 to 3 minutes.

Ah.. makes sense then. That is why you are usually so shrift of facts because you have very little time to get into the weeds of an issue.
For example. I bet YOU think Trump is "Anti-immigrant". After all the Google, MSM headlines are "Trump anti-immigrant".
Since you have only 2 to 3 minutes to do a better analysis of what these headlines are saying you "assume" they are correct and Trump is a bad ass anti-immigrant.
That explains a lot about you.

 

[TheDude]

The little headline blurbs I get every day with Yahoo news are consistent never ending 100% left wing anti-Trump propaganda. Sometimes they don't even make sense except possibly to the angry crazy left wing minions. I don't even read them anymore.

Yep, they're freaking nuts. Left wing comments prevail. Though it appears many conservative comments are in the "safe zone"", my comments are censored, often tucked under the rug.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ah.. makes sense then. That is why you are usually so shrift of facts because you have very little time to get into the weeds of an issue.
For example. I bet YOU think Trump is "Anti-immigrant". After all the Google, MSM headlines are "Trump anti-immigrant".
Since you have only 2 to 3 minutes to do a better analysis of what these headlines are saying you "assume" they are correct and Trump is a bad ass anti-immigrant.
That explains a lot about you.

you are confused, I have two to three minutes to reply on this forum. That is why you rarely see long post from me unless they are done at night or on the weekends, plus this format is not conducive to long post.

I will not post on the facts of a story until I have had time to read it from multiple sources covering both sides and a few foreign perspectives. Every news source is biased so you need to use multiple making sure you hit all sides. Also, most news agencies have areas they are more biased about than others, so you avoid those when dealing with a topic. Like I would never turn to either CNN nor FoxNews for a story about Trump, as both are hopelessly biased and it is just a waste of time.

For the record, I actually do not think that Trump is Anti-immigrant, I just think he is a dick and will use anyone for any reason. Bashing immigrants wins him points with his followers, which is why he does it.

 

[OldLady]

The majority of the major news media prints the facts of the day. For both AP and Reuters to be labeled as "leftie" news organizations ought to show you that the reason the President is accusing Google of this is because he has already decided all the major news media is "leftist." It's not. But it has to report what the Pres says and does and when he screws it up left and right, how do you want it to be reported? Not reported at all?

This great "we'll look into it" by the administration will be about as earth shattering as the Committee to Investigate Illegal Voting. There is nothing to look into.

 

[BluesLegend]

The majority of the major news media prints the facts of the day.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The majority of the major news media prints the facts of the day. For both AP and Reuters to be labeled as "leftie" news organizations ought to show you that the reason the President is accusing Google of this is because he has already decided all the major news media is "leftist." It's not. But it has to report what the Pres says and does and when he screws it up left and right, how do you want it to be reported? Not reported at all?

This great "we'll look into it" by the administration will be about as earth shattering as the Committee to Investigate Illegal Voting. There is nothing to look into.

Yes, they print the facts of the day, those make up about 10% of what they publish/produce, it is hidden in the other 90% of shit they wrap around the facts to influence how you see the facts.

 

[healthmyths]

Ah.. makes sense then. That is why you are usually so shrift of facts because you have very little time to get into the weeds of an issue.
For example. I bet YOU think Trump is "Anti-immigrant". After all the Google, MSM headlines are "Trump anti-immigrant".
Since you have only 2 to 3 minutes to do a better analysis of what these headlines are saying you "assume" they are correct and Trump is a bad ass anti-immigrant.
That explains a lot about you.

you are confused, I have two to three minutes to reply on this forum. That is why you rarely see long post from me unless they are done at night or on the weekends, plus this format is not conducive to long post.

I will not post on the facts of a story until I have had time to read it from multiple sources covering both sides and a few foreign perspectives. Every news source is biased so you need to use multiple making sure you hit all sides. Also, most news agencies have areas they are more biased about than others, so you avoid those when dealing with a topic. Like I would never turn to either CNN nor FoxNews for a story about Trump, as both are hopelessly biased and it is just a waste of time.

For the record, I actually do not think that Trump is Anti-immigrant, I just think he is a dick and will use anyone for any reason. Bashing immigrants wins him points with his followers, which is why he does it.

A) I am not confused. YOU said you have 2 to 3 minutes to respond and that's the point!
B) I've very seldom seen any of your posts with any substantiation. You spout off your opinion. Prove me wrong.
C) "Bashing immigrants"? See right there you admit it! You are so biased that even in trying to show your "objectivity" you clearly show your error.
D) Trump is a DICK. He is arrogant. He is a braggart. He is obnoxious. All characteristics of MOST successful people and regardless of your cliched observations,
Trump is getting things done.
1) Economy up 4.2% GDP. US economy logs best performance in nearly 4 years
2) African American entrepreneurs business went up by 400% Contact Trillions Black_Owned_Small_Businesses_Increase_by_400__Since_Trump.html
3) after just 19 months black unemployment has dropped from a high of 16.1% in December 2009 to July 2018 of 6.6%!!! Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

And those are just THREE examples with links remember... where are yours???

Oh and by the way if Trump "bashes" immigrants he's bashing his wife who is a LEGAL immigrant. He is also BASHING what 90+ million of us Americans have i.e. Legal immigrant status or have relatives with that as I do. So your "bashing immigrants" once again shows YOUR ignorance AND BIAS!

Get back to work watching your computer screen run data on how many porno movies are watched by people at work...hmmmm?

 

[healthmyths]

The majority of the major news media prints the facts of the day.

They print it in the article which most people like you don't read! You read the headlines or 30 sec sound bite and make your judgements on that.
FACT to support that is here is a just Google search "Trump anti-immigrant"
64,200 results with headlines like
"Cuomo calls out Trump's anti-immigrant stance" WRONG Trump's married to a LEGAL immigrant!
".... condemn Trump's anti-immigrant"
"....Stamp Trump's anti-immigrant"

Do you understand how insulting these headlines are to 90+ million people like me with "LEGAL immigrants" as relatives and the "LEGAL immigrants"?
These "LEGAL" immigrants are NOT being bashed by Trump... AGAIN he's MARRIED to a Legal immigrant"!!!
But see people like you read these headlines and NOT understand that this dropping of the adjective "LEGAL" is so detrimental to perceptions ...LIKE YOURS!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A) I am not confused. YOU said you have 2 to 3 minutes to respond and that's the point!
B) I've very seldom seen any of your posts with any substantiation. You spout off your opinion. Prove me wrong.
C) "Bashing immigrants"? See right there you admit it! You are so biased that even in trying to show your "objectivity" you clearly show your error.
D) Trump is a DICK. He is arrogant. He is a braggart. He is obnoxious. All characteristics of MOST successful people and regardless of your cliched observations,
Trump is getting things done.
1) Economy up 4.2% GDP. US economy logs best performance in nearly 4 years
2) African American entrepreneurs business went up by 400% Contact Trillions Black_Owned_Small_Businesses_Increase_by_400__Since_Trump.html
3) after just 19 months black unemployment has dropped from a high of 16.1% in December 2009 to July 2018 of 6.6%!!! Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

And those are just THREE examples with links remember... where are yours???

Oh and by the way if Trump "bashes" immigrants he's bashing his wife who is a LEGAL immigrant. He is also BASHING what 90+ million of us Americans have i.e. Legal immigrant status or have relatives with that as I do. So your "bashing immigrants" once again shows YOUR ignorance AND BIAS!

Get back to work watching your computer screen run data on how many porno movies are watched by people at work...hmmmm?

A) you are very confused.
B) when I post something that requires substantiation, I provide it.
C) Oh come on now, you know he does. His followers eat it up.
D) ....
1) You have been on here since 2011, I am sure if I looked back I could find you praising Obama for being above 4.2% for a quarter...right?

2) The 400% is bullshit, they do not provide the data to back it. The original article from thinkamericana.com has been removed as they could not support their claim and the graphic by the people that did the survey does not mention a thing about 400%...[Infographic] 2018 African American Business Owners Small Business Trends | Guidant Financial you really should not talk to me about being misinformed when you fell for a story so obviously false.

3) black unemployment has dropped 1.2% under Trump in 19 months, an average drop of .063 per month. Using your starting date of Dec 2009, it went down 8.2% under Obama, or an average of .097 per month. Again, I am sure if I looked I will find lots of examples of you praising Obama for the very things you are praising Trump for? Right?

I do not deal with your viewing habits on the net, I do agricultural statistics right now. But do not worry, someone else is out there tracking your porn viewing habits.

 

[healthmyths]

A) I am not confused. YOU said you have 2 to 3 minutes to respond and that's the point!
B) I've very seldom seen any of your posts with any substantiation. You spout off your opinion. Prove me wrong.
C) "Bashing immigrants"? See right there you admit it! You are so biased that even in trying to show your "objectivity" you clearly show your error.
D) Trump is a DICK. He is arrogant. He is a braggart. He is obnoxious. All characteristics of MOST successful people and regardless of your cliched observations,
Trump is getting things done.
1) Economy up 4.2% GDP. US economy logs best performance in nearly 4 years
2) African American entrepreneurs business went up by 400% Contact Trillions Black_Owned_Small_Businesses_Increase_by_400__Since_Trump.html
3) after just 19 months black unemployment has dropped from a high of 16.1% in December 2009 to July 2018 of 6.6%!!! Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

And those are just THREE examples with links remember... where are yours???

Oh and by the way if Trump "bashes" immigrants he's bashing his wife who is a LEGAL immigrant. He is also BASHING what 90+ million of us Americans have i.e. Legal immigrant status or have relatives with that as I do. So your "bashing immigrants" once again shows YOUR ignorance AND BIAS!

Get back to work watching your computer screen run data on how many porno movies are watched by people at work...hmmmm?

A) you are very confused.
B) when I post something that requires substantiation, I provide it.
C) Oh come on now, you know he does. His followers eat it up.
D) ....
1) You have been on here since 2011, I am sure if I looked back I could find you praising Obama for being above 4.2% for a quarter...right?

2) The 400% is bullshit, they do not provide the data to back it. The original article from thinkamericana.com has been removed as they could not support their claim and the graphic by the people that did the survey does not mention a thing about 400%...[Infographic] 2018 African American Business Owners Small Business Trends | Guidant Financial you really should not talk to me about being misinformed when you fell for a story so obviously false.

3) black unemployment has dropped 1.2% under Trump in 19 months, an average drop of .063 per month. Using your starting date of Dec 2009, it went down 8.2% under Obama, or an average of .097 per month. Again, I am sure if I looked I will find lots of examples of you praising Obama for the very things you are praising Trump for? Right?

I do not deal with your viewing habits on the net, I do agricultural statistics right now. But do not worry, someone else is out there tracking your porn viewing habits.

A) Confused?
Tell that to these folks.The Obama economy in 10 charts
Show me where Obama ever had 4.2%????

B) Let's check out the 400% fact.. And you are right! That was a totally unrealistic and I have to admit I didn't research it. No way possible for businesses to grow
from 2.6 million black owned in 2012 to 13 million! I was wrong.

C) Black unemployment... Where did you get your figures because this comes from Current Population Survey (CPS)
The below shows 2 years when Black unemployment INCREASED!
So looking the below chart... Trump had a bigger reduction than Obama! Where'd you get YOUR facts???

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A) Confused?
Tell that to these folks.The Obama economy in 10 charts
Show me where Obama ever had 4.2%????

U.S.: real GDP growth by quarter 2011-2018 | Statista

Your graphs show only whole calendar years, the problem with that is that Trump has not had a calendar year over 3% yet. The 4.1% is for only one quarter.

B) Let's check out the 400% fact.. And you are right! That was a totally unrealistic and I have to admit I didn't research it. No way possible for businesses to grow
from 2.6 million black owned in 2012 to 13 million! I was wrong.

Thanks.

C) Black unemployment... Where did you get your figures because this comes from Current Population Survey (CPS)
The below shows 2 years when Black unemployment INCREASED!
So looking the below chart... Trump had a bigger reduction than Obama! Where'd you get YOUR facts???

I got my figures from your link. Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

You used Dec 2009 as your starting point.

Dec 2009 the black unemployment rate was 16.1%. In Dec 2016, Obama's last full month it was 7.9% That is a drop of 8.2%. Between Dec 2009 and Dec 2016 there are 72 months. 8.2/72=.114%. (sorry my first post was off, i was too low).

Trump's first month was Jan 2017, black unemployment was 7.8%, today it is 6.6%. that is a drop of 1.2% over 19 months. 1.2/19=0.632.

So, using your own starting point of Dec 2009, black unemployment dropped an average of .114% per month during the Obama years, and 0.632% per month during the Trump years.

Now, before you go getting all silly on me, I am not giving Obama any amount of credit of this, it was just part of the recovery that was going to happen with or without him.

 

[TheDude]

Anyone remember years ago if you entered "failure" into Google the first selection came up George Bush?

I didn't think much of him myself, and thought it was funny. I was more "liberal" at the time.

 

[TheDude]

A) Confused?
Tell that to these folks.The Obama economy in 10 charts
Show me where Obama ever had 4.2%????

View attachment 213838

U.S.: real GDP growth by quarter 2011-2018 | Statista

Your graphs show only whole calendar years, the problem with that is that Trump has not had a calendar year over 3% yet. The 4.1% is for only one quarter.

B) Let's check out the 400% fact.. And you are right! That was a totally unrealistic and I have to admit I didn't research it. No way possible for businesses to grow
from 2.6 million black owned in 2012 to 13 million! I was wrong.

Thanks.

C) Black unemployment... Where did you get your figures because this comes from Current Population Survey (CPS)
The below shows 2 years when Black unemployment INCREASED!
So looking the below chart... Trump had a bigger reduction than Obama! Where'd you get YOUR facts???

I got my figures from your link. Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

You used Dec 2009 as your starting point.

View attachment 213839

Dec 2009 the black unemployment rate was 16.1%. In Dec 2016, Obama's last full month it was 7.9% That is a drop of 8.2%. Between Dec 2009 and Dec 2016 there are 72 months. 8.2/72=.114%. (sorry my first post was off, i was too low).

Trump's first month was Jan 2017, black unemployment was 7.8%, today it is 6.6%. that is a drop of 1.2% over 19 months. 1.2/19=0.632.

So, using your own starting point of Dec 2009, black unemployment dropped an average of .114% per month during the Obama years, and 0.632% per month during the Trump years.

Now, before you go getting all silly on me, I am not giving Obama any amount of credit of this, it was just part of the recovery that was going to happen with or without him.

You're comparing apples and oranges, but I mostly agree with your last point.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A) Confused?
Tell that to these folks.The Obama economy in 10 charts
Show me where Obama ever had 4.2%????

View attachment 213838

U.S.: real GDP growth by quarter 2011-2018 | Statista

Your graphs show only whole calendar years, the problem with that is that Trump has not had a calendar year over 3% yet. The 4.1% is for only one quarter.

B) Let's check out the 400% fact.. And you are right! That was a totally unrealistic and I have to admit I didn't research it. No way possible for businesses to grow
from 2.6 million black owned in 2012 to 13 million! I was wrong.

Thanks.

C) Black unemployment... Where did you get your figures because this comes from Current Population Survey (CPS)
The below shows 2 years when Black unemployment INCREASED!
So looking the below chart... Trump had a bigger reduction than Obama! Where'd you get YOUR facts???

I got my figures from your link. Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

You used Dec 2009 as your starting point.

View attachment 213839

Dec 2009 the black unemployment rate was 16.1%. In Dec 2016, Obama's last full month it was 7.9% That is a drop of 8.2%. Between Dec 2009 and Dec 2016 there are 72 months. 8.2/72=.114%. (sorry my first post was off, i was too low).

Trump's first month was Jan 2017, black unemployment was 7.8%, today it is 6.6%. that is a drop of 1.2% over 19 months. 1.2/19=0.632.

So, using your own starting point of Dec 2009, black unemployment dropped an average of .114% per month during the Obama years, and 0.632% per month during the Trump years.

Now, before you go getting all silly on me, I am not giving Obama any amount of credit of this, it was just part of the recovery that was going to happen with or without him.

You're comparing apples and oranges, but I mostly agree with your last point.

I am comparing economic data over the last 8 years, how is that apples to oranges?

 

[healthmyths]

A) Confused?
Tell that to these folks.The Obama economy in 10 charts
Show me where Obama ever had 4.2%????

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U.S.: real GDP growth by quarter 2011-2018 | Statista

Your graphs show only whole calendar years, the problem with that is that Trump has not had a calendar year over 3% yet. The 4.1% is for only one quarter.

B) Let's check out the 400% fact.. And you are right! That was a totally unrealistic and I have to admit I didn't research it. No way possible for businesses to grow
from 2.6 million black owned in 2012 to 13 million! I was wrong.

Thanks.

C) Black unemployment... Where did you get your figures because this comes from Current Population Survey (CPS)
The below shows 2 years when Black unemployment INCREASED!
So looking the below chart... Trump had a bigger reduction than Obama! Where'd you get YOUR facts???

I got my figures from your link. Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

You used Dec 2009 as your starting point.

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Dec 2009 the black unemployment rate was 16.1%. In Dec 2016, Obama's last full month it was 7.9% That is a drop of 8.2%. Between Dec 2009 and Dec 2016 there are 72 months. 8.2/72=.114%. (sorry my first post was off, i was too low).

Trump's first month was Jan 2017, black unemployment was 7.8%, today it is 6.6%. that is a drop of 1.2% over 19 months. 1.2/19=0.632.

So, using your own starting point of Dec 2009, black unemployment dropped an average of .114% per month during the Obama years, and 0.632% per month during the Trump years.

Now, before you go getting all silly on me, I am not giving Obama any amount of credit of this, it was just part of the recovery that was going to happen with or without him.

You're comparing apples and oranges, but I mostly agree with your last point.

I am comparing economic data over the last 8 years, how is that apples to oranges?

I tell you what.
You tell me what amongst the following statements by Obama would be helpful to the economy and to the country.
NONE of these statements are "helpful" to the economy and definitely negative. How can any one other than a socialist as Obama is believe making the USA "dependent" on foreign oil is good for the nation. Or why would ANYONE want to have companies go bankrupt? These are ALL negative statements. So whatever growth occurred it happened IN SPITE OF OBAMA'S ILL INTENTIONS.
Oh one more point about the economy and Obama.
Under Obama government rules and regulations grew at the highest rate in history.
Regulation acts as a stealth tax on the American people and the U.S. economy. The weight of this tax is crushing, with independent estimates of total regulatory costs
exceeding $2 trillion annually—more than is collected in income taxes each year. This estimate, however useful as a general guide, is far from precise and likely modest.
Red Tape Rising 2016: Obama Regs Top $100 Billion Annually

One of the dumbest rules under ACA was if a small business wanted to increase employees to over 50... group health insurance must be offered.
A: Yes, depending on their size. Employers with under 50 FTE employees are not required to offer health insurance atall.Jan 8, 2018
Are employers required by the Affordable Care Act to purchase group insurance for their employees?
Wow... what a way to encourage growth!