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The rules of the game here apply to you, sweet cheeks, and they just got slapped hard. You can't apply your dialectic to just one side and ignore it for the other.Ted Cruz cannot be President!
He was born in Canada.
His father fought with Castro.
His wife worked on Wall Street
How do we know he won't just give Florida to Cuba? Or Canada? Or Goldman Sachs?
C'mon back after you've read the 'Help Iran Get A Nuke' Treaty, and the secret 'side deals.'
Because Unkotare has no friends on this site, and is reviled by the Left and the Right.Why are you carrying her water?
Yet you cannot articulate in any way why you believe he's a failure.The definition of 'stupid' is having voted for the unmitigated failure, Barack Hussein Obama, even once.
Have you read the agreement?Ted Cruz cannot be President!
He was born in Canada.
His father fought with Castro.
His wife worked on Wall Street
How do we know he won't just give Florida to Cuba? Or Canada? Or Goldman Sachs?
C'mon back after you've read the 'Help Iran Get A Nuke' Treaty, and the secret 'side deals.'
Of course. You value stupidity.All Iranians think alike now?
lol, ferreting out Iranians for blanket condemnation is quite a bit like the Nazis ferreting out Jews,
wouldn't you say, Mr. Huckabee?
I must admit that Huckabee certainly went up in my estimation this week.
I looked it up.
The definition of 'stupid' is having voted for the unmitigated failure, Barack Hussein Obama, even once.
Voted for him twice?
Then, it's one of the following:
Imperfectly grounded in reality...
Psychosis....a break with reality
Hallucinations....seeing or hearing things that aren't there
Delusions.....immutable false ideas
So, explain what a foreign national is. Can you do that? Can you explain the relevance of the fbi policy you quoted repeatedly to the facts here? Or will just continue to be a lying piece of shit?Why are you carrying her water? She has slithered off somewhere knowing she was proven wrong and you stick around making the same false claims.Of course. You value stupidity.All Iranians think alike now?
lol, ferreting out Iranians for blanket condemnation is quite a bit like the Nazis ferreting out Jews,
wouldn't you say, Mr. Huckabee?
I must admit that Huckabee certainly went up in my estimation this week.
Oh, are you begging to be valued now?
No, you moron....
...you were whipped....what more is there to say?
I have to keep telling you how stupid you are?
And the definition of "foreign national". Did you look that up dipshit?Of course. You value stupidity.All Iranians think alike now?
lol, ferreting out Iranians for blanket condemnation is quite a bit like the Nazis ferreting out Jews,
wouldn't you say, Mr. Huckabee?
I must admit that Huckabee certainly went up in my estimation this week.
I looked it up.
The definition of 'stupid' is having voted for the unmitigated failure, Barack Hussein Obama, even once.
Voted for him twice?
Then, it's one of the following:
Imperfectly grounded in reality...
Psychosis....a break with reality
Hallucinations....seeing or hearing things that aren't there
Delusions.....immutable false ideas
It's what she does. She's a drive-by poster.PC has run away apparently.
Is your point that his being educated means he could not be a sympathizer of the terrorist regime in Tehran?
Think carefully before you respond.
Yet you cannot articulate in any way why you believe he's a failure.The definition of 'stupid' is having voted for the unmitigated failure, Barack Hussein Obama, even once.
While I could list at least 20 ways he's a success. But it would be a total waste of my time, since all you would reply with is "nuh-uh!".
You are lying again about the Venona Soviet cables removing doubt about Hiss. We have gone over this before. You just don't want to admit the controversy and disputes about Hiss exist because you need the accusation to be true to make so many of your assertions make any sense. Venona cable #1822 mentions a code name ALES and so an assumption was made that it was Alger Hiss. That worked until it was proven that Hiss did not attend the meeting being referenced in the cable. There are several explanations why this code name could have been used, one being that if the cables were ever discovered the code name would lead investigators away from the real spy. More importantly however is the fact that high ranking Russian officials testified than Hiss was not a spy. Add the accusation of the cables being "adjusted" during three different "interpretations", one for the famous Red Scare Hearings and there is plenty of doubt about your Venona cables.Let's extend today's lesson into another area in which we find you Liberals...'challenged'...
History.
We can find numerous occasions in which Liberals/Progressives have either worked against the interests of the nation, or been oblivious to what the interests of America are.
Taking policy advice from individuals with ties to an enemy nation is certainly one.
Another glaring example is Franklin Roosevelt's embrace of foreign agents in his administration.
The major player in the Alger Hiss saga was fellow Communist, Whitaker Chambers.
In his book, Witness, Chambers explains is disillusionment as follows. In 1938, he determined not only to break with the Communist Party, but to inform on the Party when he could.
The reason was that he was informed that Stalin was making efforts to align with Hitler, in 1939, and “from any human point of view, the pact was evil.”
As Hitler marched into Poland, Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Roosevelt’s assistant Sec’y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Roosevelt’s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself. (Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator, p. 60)
No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss. Almost a decade later, Chambers was called before the HUAC and named Hiss as a Soviet agent. Hiss sued Chambers, at which time Chambers presented “… four notes in Alger Hiss's handwriting, sixty-five typewritten copies of State Department documents and five strips of microfilm, some of which contained photographs of State Department documents. The press came to call these the "Pumpkin Papers"(Whittaker Chambers - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia)
And, of course, all doubt was removed in 1995, when the Venona Soviet cables were decrypted.
www.algerhiss.com/lowsoviet.html
Reminder: I'm never wrong.
The following is from the CIA analysis of the case of Alger Hiss.
Background:
" In 1948, Whittaker Chambers, a self-confessed former communist and Soviet spy, alleged that Alger Hiss, who had been a high-level official in the State Department during the 1930s and 1940s and who had worked closely with Secretary of State Edward Stettinius, had also been a communist and a spy. After a dramatic series of events and two trials, Hiss was convicted in 1950 of perjury for lying when he denied having passed documents to Chambers in 1938. Hiss served almost four years in a federal prison and for the rest of his life--he died in 1996--denied all of Chambers's charges."
For more than 50 years, intellectuals, journalists, and political figures have bitterly argued over Hiss's guilt or innocence. All the participants have understood that at stake is not only the question of whether Hiss had been the victim of a miscarriage of justice but also fundamental questions about American liberalism,..."
1. "...supporters are claiming vindication of the man at the center of one of the most notorious spy cases in US history. This is a remarkable development, because the case against Hiss has steadily grown more damning and complete as researchers have delved into the files of his lawyers, declassified US intelligence documents, and Soviet-bloc archives.
2. In April 2007, a prominent American historian, Kai Bird, and his Russian collaborator, historian Svetlana Chervonnaya, stepped forward at a conference to claim that the central piece of evidence against Hiss--an intercepted cable in the VENONA series, No. 1822, naming a Soviet asset, ALES--did not refer to Hiss, as the FBI and NSA had judged, but someone else.... however, the Bird-Chervonnaya assertion is built on thin reeds, suppositions, and unsupportable "ifs then thats."
3. The debate ought to have ended after the publication of Allen Weinstein's definitive history of the case, Perjury in 1978, and with the release in the mid-1990s of the VENONA cables in the United States and archival materials in the former East Bloc.As Thomas Powers, one of the most astute observers of US intelligence affairs, wrote in 2000, the "evidence following the publication of VENONA...is simply overwhelming." By then all but a few determined Hiss supporters concluded that Hiss had been a spy. (Thomas Powers, "The Plot Thickens," New York Review of Books, 11 May 2000,)
4. Discussions of the Hiss case since the late 1990s have focused on VENONA 1822, the message from the NKGB residency in Washington to Moscow on 30 March 1945 that named ... in clear language, lays out four identifying characteristics of ALES:
a. .... the cable makes for an easily understood case against Hiss, who appears to fit all the criteria. As a result, public debate has tended to overlook the mountain of other evidence and treat the cable as if it were the only evidence in the case. Hiss's defenders have encouraged this perception and have made determined efforts to break the link between ALES and Hiss.
- He had worked for the GRU (Neighbors) since 1935.
- He led a small group of spies that included his relatives.
- He passed military information and had been at the Yalta Conference (4-11 February 1945).
- Finally, he had gone to Moscow after the conference.
The Mystery of ALES Central Intelligence Agency
The CIA link, the one you posted is a long read, but it confirms what I posted and agrees the the case remains controversial. The most interesting part I found to be the final paragraph, the conclusion as to why it is important to accept Hiss as being guilty or not guilty to the intelligence community and the flagrant admission that the truth is not the priority.
It's never not about race with the Koreans, is it?
lolol
It's never not about race with the Koreans, is it?
lolol
when did Iranian and Korean become races? can you give us a date for that?
PC 11942538Is your point that his being educated means he could not be a sympathizer of the terrorist regime in Tehran?
Think carefully before you respond.
Did you ever stop to think ( dumb way to ask you a question I know) that being educated he could be a great sympathizer to the millions of Iranians who are moderates and do not sympathize with the theocratic religious zealot regime in Iran. The moderates in Iran are in favor of this deal which makes you a hater of Iranian moderates no matter your ethnic background. The Shiite Persian moderates in Iran are face an existential threat by Sunni terrorists that have moved close to Iran's borders and at least their tyrannical government and its military forces are helping to kill and destroy ISIS. That makes you by your dark and ignorant conjecture a direct supporter with sympathy toward ISIS killers.
You are exposed by your own version of McCarthyism.
There is an Iranian Islamo Nazi right now hiding under your bed. You better go look.
Yet you cannot articulate in any way why you believe he's a failure.The definition of 'stupid' is having voted for the unmitigated failure, Barack Hussein Obama, even once.
While I could list at least 20 ways he's a success. But it would be a total waste of my time, since all you would reply with is "nuh-uh!".
Anyone interested can read the report. They do not have to read the entire report. The pertinent part is the conclusion, a five paragraph section titled "Why it Matters" at the bottom of the page. The first paragraph offers what is clearly and admittedly a biased opinion by the CIA that the opponents of the view you propagate fail to make a total conclusive case. It does not hide that it is biased and only an opinion, as the next four paragraphs give shocking reason why the CIA prefers to go along with the idea of Hiss being guilty, while admitting that he might not be. Hence, it is exactly as I stated to refute your claims. There is a controversy about your claim and your claim is just an opinion. The issue is debated by a long list of scholars and historians and has been for over 60 years.You are lying again about the Venona Soviet cables removing doubt about Hiss. We have gone over this before. You just don't want to admit the controversy and disputes about Hiss exist because you need the accusation to be true to make so many of your assertions make any sense. Venona cable #1822 mentions a code name ALES and so an assumption was made that it was Alger Hiss. That worked until it was proven that Hiss did not attend the meeting being referenced in the cable. There are several explanations why this code name could have been used, one being that if the cables were ever discovered the code name would lead investigators away from the real spy. More importantly however is the fact that high ranking Russian officials testified than Hiss was not a spy. Add the accusation of the cables being "adjusted" during three different "interpretations", one for the famous Red Scare Hearings and there is plenty of doubt about your Venona cables.Let's extend today's lesson into another area in which we find you Liberals...'challenged'...
History.
We can find numerous occasions in which Liberals/Progressives have either worked against the interests of the nation, or been oblivious to what the interests of America are.
Taking policy advice from individuals with ties to an enemy nation is certainly one.
Another glaring example is Franklin Roosevelt's embrace of foreign agents in his administration.
The major player in the Alger Hiss saga was fellow Communist, Whitaker Chambers.
In his book, Witness, Chambers explains is disillusionment as follows. In 1938, he determined not only to break with the Communist Party, but to inform on the Party when he could.
The reason was that he was informed that Stalin was making efforts to align with Hitler, in 1939, and “from any human point of view, the pact was evil.”
As Hitler marched into Poland, Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Roosevelt’s assistant Sec’y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Roosevelt’s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself. (Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator, p. 60)
No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss. Almost a decade later, Chambers was called before the HUAC and named Hiss as a Soviet agent. Hiss sued Chambers, at which time Chambers presented “… four notes in Alger Hiss's handwriting, sixty-five typewritten copies of State Department documents and five strips of microfilm, some of which contained photographs of State Department documents. The press came to call these the "Pumpkin Papers"(Whittaker Chambers - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia)
And, of course, all doubt was removed in 1995, when the Venona Soviet cables were decrypted.
www.algerhiss.com/lowsoviet.html
Reminder: I'm never wrong.
The following is from the CIA analysis of the case of Alger Hiss.
Background:
" In 1948, Whittaker Chambers, a self-confessed former communist and Soviet spy, alleged that Alger Hiss, who had been a high-level official in the State Department during the 1930s and 1940s and who had worked closely with Secretary of State Edward Stettinius, had also been a communist and a spy. After a dramatic series of events and two trials, Hiss was convicted in 1950 of perjury for lying when he denied having passed documents to Chambers in 1938. Hiss served almost four years in a federal prison and for the rest of his life--he died in 1996--denied all of Chambers's charges."
For more than 50 years, intellectuals, journalists, and political figures have bitterly argued over Hiss's guilt or innocence. All the participants have understood that at stake is not only the question of whether Hiss had been the victim of a miscarriage of justice but also fundamental questions about American liberalism,..."
1. "...supporters are claiming vindication of the man at the center of one of the most notorious spy cases in US history. This is a remarkable development, because the case against Hiss has steadily grown more damning and complete as researchers have delved into the files of his lawyers, declassified US intelligence documents, and Soviet-bloc archives.
2. In April 2007, a prominent American historian, Kai Bird, and his Russian collaborator, historian Svetlana Chervonnaya, stepped forward at a conference to claim that the central piece of evidence against Hiss--an intercepted cable in the VENONA series, No. 1822, naming a Soviet asset, ALES--did not refer to Hiss, as the FBI and NSA had judged, but someone else.... however, the Bird-Chervonnaya assertion is built on thin reeds, suppositions, and unsupportable "ifs then thats."
3. The debate ought to have ended after the publication of Allen Weinstein's definitive history of the case, Perjury in 1978, and with the release in the mid-1990s of the VENONA cables in the United States and archival materials in the former East Bloc.As Thomas Powers, one of the most astute observers of US intelligence affairs, wrote in 2000, the "evidence following the publication of VENONA...is simply overwhelming." By then all but a few determined Hiss supporters concluded that Hiss had been a spy. (Thomas Powers, "The Plot Thickens," New York Review of Books, 11 May 2000,)
4. Discussions of the Hiss case since the late 1990s have focused on VENONA 1822, the message from the NKGB residency in Washington to Moscow on 30 March 1945 that named ... in clear language, lays out four identifying characteristics of ALES:
a. .... the cable makes for an easily understood case against Hiss, who appears to fit all the criteria. As a result, public debate has tended to overlook the mountain of other evidence and treat the cable as if it were the only evidence in the case. Hiss's defenders have encouraged this perception and have made determined efforts to break the link between ALES and Hiss.
- He had worked for the GRU (Neighbors) since 1935.
- He led a small group of spies that included his relatives.
- He passed military information and had been at the Yalta Conference (4-11 February 1945).
- Finally, he had gone to Moscow after the conference.
The Mystery of ALES Central Intelligence Agency
The CIA link, the one you posted is a long read, but it confirms what I posted and agrees the the case remains controversial. The most interesting part I found to be the final paragraph, the conclusion as to why it is important to accept Hiss as being guilty or not guilty to the intelligence community and the flagrant admission that the truth is not the priority.
It does the very opposite, you liar.
.... the cable makes for an easily understood case against Hiss, who appears to fit all the criteria. As a result, public debate has tended to overlook the mountain of other evidence and treat the cable as if it were the only evidence in the case. Hiss's defenders have encouraged this perception and have made determined efforts to break the link between ALES and Hiss.
The Mystery of ALES Central Intelligence Agency
Alger HIss.....Stalin's spy
Franklin Roosevelt.....Stalin's puppet
You......a low-life lying Liberal sap
