IRS Leaked info On Conservative Groups To Help Democrats Win In 2012

[bendog]

On Nov. 15, 2012, ProPublica requested the applications of 67 nonprofits, all of which had spent money on the 2012 elections. (Because no social welfare groups with Tea Party in their names spent money on the election, ProPublica did not at that point request their applications. We had requested the Tea Party applications earlier, after the groups first complained about being singled out by the IRS. In response, the IRS said it could find no record of the tax-exempt status of those groups — typically how it responds to requests for unapproved applications.)

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The election was already over. And why wouldn't I want to know how much money was spent by the various players?

 

[mudwhistle]

ProPublica first published the REDACTED info Dec 14, 2012. Only a Misinformation Voter would be STUPID enough to thing the 2012 campaign was still going on simply because their MessiahRushie told them it was still going on!

So breaking the law is ok as long as you don't mind right?

If breaking the law by the Bush appointed IRS director was enough, why did the Right have to exaggerate it into the info was used in the 2012 campaign when it wasn't?

We can't assume they're being honest. It makes no sense for the IRS to wait until after the election.

If ProPublica released any hit pieces on anyone under IRS scrutiny then their claims are bullshit. Simple as that.

 

[edthecynic]

Not saying this is not true.....but what kind of info might the IRS have that can help in an election? I'm curious.

Not only that, the link clearly says the IRS did not give the info to ProPublica until Nov 2012 and they didn't publish until Dec 2012, a little too late for the November elections!!! But the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood will never let facts get in the way of a fake scandal!!!

It says during the 2012 election cycle. ProPublica claims they didn't give it to them until Nov 2012.

Question:

Could they be lying? Why would they need this kind of info after the election? Please explain that one.

We are asked to believe a constant string of lies. What makes this one any different? ProPublica released the story to head off any new information coming to light. They figure the Obama suck-asses will believe them regardless if it's a rational explanation or not. You won't question it.

Learn to read, it says the IRS targeted the CON$ervoFascist groups during the 2012 election cycle. ProPublica published REDACTED info from one of the 9 Orgs for the first time on December 14,2012, well AFTER the election. Your MessiahRushie lied to you once again and you were stupid enough to believe him once again and make a fool of yourself by posting it in a public forum once again. Will you ever learn that your MessiahRushie is a pathological liar???

From your link:

ProPublica on Monday reported that the same IRS division that targeted conservative groups for special scrutiny during the 2012 election cycle provided the investigative-reporting organization with confidential applications for tax-exempt status.

 

[edthecynic]

So breaking the law is ok as long as you don't mind right?

If breaking the law by the Bush appointed IRS director was enough, why did the Right have to exaggerate it into the info was used in the 2012 campaign when it wasn't?

We can't assume they're being honest. It makes no sense for the IRS to wait until after the election.

If ProPublica released any hit pieces on anyone under IRS scrutiny then their claims are bullshit. Simple as that.

Sure you can never assume anyone is being honest except your MessiahRushie who has never been honest in his life!

And if you can show that ProPublica released and info from the IRS on those 9 Orgs before the election then you would have a case. But you have nothing, yet you made the false accusation anyway simply because you believed a pathological liar rather than google anything yourself. Nothing on the 9 Orgs was published before Dec 14, 2012. Now other Orgs that did have their applications approved before the election could be reported on because that info is allowed to be made public once their tax exempt status is approved. The info is only banned while their application is pending.
Get it?

 

[mudwhistle]

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The division of the Internal Revenue Service that improperly scrutinized the tax-exempt status of conservative groups sent confidential information on 31 conservative groups to the well-funded liberal nonprofit journalism organization ProPublica, according to a revelation made by ProPublica Monday.

“The same IRS office that deliberately targeted*conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status in the run-up to the 2012 election released nine pending confidential applications of conservative groups to ProPublica late last year,” according to the ProPublica report.

“In response to a request for the applications for 67 different nonprofits last November, the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent ProPublica applications or documentation for 31 groups. Nine of those applications had not yet been approved — meaning they were not supposed to be made public. (We made six of those public, after redacting their financial information, deeming that they were newsworthy.),” according to ProPublica.

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“Before the 2012 election, ProPublica devoted months to showing how*dozens of social-welfare nonprofits had misled the IRS about their political activity on their applications and tax returns… In 2012, nonprofits that didn’t have to report their donors poured an unprecedented $322 million into the election. Much of that money — 84 percent — came from conservative groups,” according to ProPublica.
IRS sent confidential info to liberal nonprofit ProPublica | The Daily Caller

So where did ProPublica get this info from?

 

[edthecynic]

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The division of the Internal Revenue Service that improperly scrutinized the tax-exempt status of conservative groups sent confidential information on 31 conservative groups to the well-funded liberal nonprofit journalism organization ProPublica, according to a revelation made by ProPublica Monday.

“The same IRS office that deliberately targeted*conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status in the run-up to the 2012 election released nine pending confidential applications of conservative groups to ProPublica late last year,” according to the ProPublica report.

“In response to a request for the applications for 67 different nonprofits last November, the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent ProPublica applications or documentation for 31 groups. Nine of those applications had not yet been approved — meaning they were not supposed to be made public. (We made six of those public, after redacting their financial information, deeming that they were newsworthy.),” according to ProPublica.

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“Before the 2012 election, ProPublica devoted months to showing how*dozens of social-welfare nonprofits had misled the IRS about their political activity on their applications and tax returns… In 2012, nonprofits that didn’t have to report their donors poured an unprecedented $322 million into the election. Much of that money — 84 percent — came from conservative groups,” according to ProPublica.
IRS sent confidential info to liberal nonprofit ProPublica | The Daily Caller

So where did ProPublica get this info from?

Already answered, once their tax exemption is APPROVED the info is allowed to be made public.

Only 9 Orgs had not had their tax exemption approved and none of them were reported on until AFTER the election. Admit it, your MessiahRushie made a sucker out of you yet again!

 

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The division of the Internal Revenue Service that improperly scrutinized the tax-exempt status of conservative groups sent confidential information on 31 conservative groups to the well-funded liberal nonprofit journalism organization ProPublica, according to a revelation made by ProPublica Monday.

“The same IRS office that deliberately targeted*conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status in the run-up to the 2012 election released nine pending confidential applications of conservative groups to ProPublica late last year,” according to the ProPublica report.

“In response to a request for the applications for 67 different nonprofits last November, the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent ProPublica applications or documentation for 31 groups. Nine of those applications had not yet been approved — meaning they were not supposed to be made public. (We made six of those public, after redacting their financial information, deeming that they were newsworthy.),” according to ProPublica.

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“Before the 2012 election, ProPublica devoted months to showing how*dozens of social-welfare nonprofits had misled the IRS about their political activity on their applications and tax returns… In 2012, nonprofits that didn’t have to report their donors poured an unprecedented $322 million into the election. Much of that money — 84 percent — came from conservative groups,” according to ProPublica.
IRS sent confidential info to liberal nonprofit ProPublica | The Daily Caller

So where did ProPublica get this info from?

Already answered, once their tax exemption is APPROVED the info is allowed to be made public.

Only 9 Orgs had not had their tax exemption approved and none of them were reported on until AFTER the election. Admit it, your MessiahRushie made a sucker out of you yet again!

Bullshit. Name the nine groups you mentioned

The story says ProPublica released stories about them before the election.

Nice try though.


All these folks have to do is send out confusing stories to counter the facts and you libs lap it up and swallow the Kool-aid.

 

[mudwhistle]

Btw, the story mentioned in the Daily Caller mentioned donations. Something they have no right to have access to. Donor lists are not for public consumption due to privacy laws. The stories implied there was something illegal about not knowing who their donors are as a matter fact.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

The leftist KOOK brigade here doesn't give the first damn about breaking the law.. Power, power, power.. enacting their leftist Socialist agenda, at any cost.. That's all that matters and there's real proof of it now..

 

[Sallow]

I'm certainly not opposed to impeachment.

A third Democrat and second one in a row.

Nice.

I think Republicans should go for it.

 

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The division of the Internal Revenue Service that improperly scrutinized the tax-exempt status of conservative groups sent confidential information on 31 conservative groups to the well-funded liberal nonprofit journalism organization ProPublica, according to a revelation made by ProPublica Monday.

“The same IRS office that deliberately targeted*conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status in the run-up to the 2012 election released nine pending confidential applications of conservative groups to ProPublica late last year,” according to the ProPublica report.

“In response to a request for the applications for 67 different nonprofits last November, the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent ProPublica applications or documentation for 31 groups. Nine of those applications had not yet been approved — meaning they were not supposed to be made public. (We made six of those public, after redacting their financial information, deeming that they were newsworthy.),” according to ProPublica.

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“Before the 2012 election, ProPublica devoted months to showing how*dozens of social-welfare nonprofits had misled the IRS about their political activity on their applications and tax returns… In 2012, nonprofits that didn’t have to report their donors poured an unprecedented $322 million into the election. Much of that money — 84 percent — came from conservative groups,” according to ProPublica.
IRS sent confidential info to liberal nonprofit ProPublica | The Daily Caller

So where did ProPublica get this info from?

Already answered, once their tax exemption is APPROVED the info is allowed to be made public.

Only 9 Orgs had not had their tax exemption approved and none of them were reported on until AFTER the election. Admit it, your MessiahRushie made a sucker out of you yet again!

Bullshit. Name the nine groups you mentioned

The story says ProPublica released stories about them before the election.

Nice try though.


All these folks have to do is send out confusing stories to counter the facts and you libs lap it up and swallow the Kool-aid.

actually the link embedded within the link you used to start the thread showed the documents were released Nov 15, 2012, a week after the election. Nevertheless, if the docs were not public, they shouldn't have been released. Personally, I think every pol donation should be public.

 

[mudwhistle]

So which story are you libs gonna go with? That the IRS gave them opposition research after the election, or are you gonna go with "so what, it's not against the law anyway!!"

 

[Sallow]

Btw, the story mentioned in the Daily Caller mentioned donations. Something they have no right to have access to. Donor lists are not for public consumption due to privacy laws. The stories implied there was something illegal about not knowing who their donors are as a matter fact.

Isn't the Daily Caller that same outfit that paid a Prostitute to accuse Democratic Senator Menedez of pedophilia?

Report: Lawyer links Daily Caller to paid Menendez prostitutes - Salon.com

Not sure..could you clarify?

 

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The division of the Internal Revenue Service that improperly scrutinized the tax-exempt status of conservative groups sent confidential information on 31 conservative groups to the well-funded liberal nonprofit journalism organization ProPublica, according to a revelation made by ProPublica Monday.

“The same IRS office that deliberately targeted*conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status in the run-up to the 2012 election released nine pending confidential applications of conservative groups to ProPublica late last year,” according to the ProPublica report.

“In response to a request for the applications for 67 different nonprofits last November, the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent ProPublica applications or documentation for 31 groups. Nine of those applications had not yet been approved — meaning they were not supposed to be made public. (We made six of those public, after redacting their financial information, deeming that they were newsworthy.),” according to ProPublica.

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“Before the 2012 election, ProPublica devoted months to showing how*dozens of social-welfare nonprofits had misled the IRS about their political activity on their applications and tax returns… In 2012, nonprofits that didn’t have to report their donors poured an unprecedented $322 million into the election. Much of that money — 84 percent — came from conservative groups,” according to ProPublica.
IRS sent confidential info to liberal nonprofit ProPublica | The Daily Caller

So where did ProPublica get this info from?

Already answered, once their tax exemption is APPROVED the info is allowed to be made public.

Only 9 Orgs had not had their tax exemption approved and none of them were reported on until AFTER the election. Admit it, your MessiahRushie made a sucker out of you yet again!

Bullshit. Name the nine groups you mentioned

The story says ProPublica released stories about them before the election.

Nice try though.


All these folks have to do is send out confusing stories to counter the facts and you libs lap it up and swallow the Kool-aid.

Liar!

You are only confused because you are still trying to rationalize your lies. All of the ProPublica reporting before Dec 14, 2012 was on already approved tax exempt Orgs. Name one that was not already approved that was reported on before Dec 14, 2012 or STFU!

 

[mudwhistle]

Btw, the story mentioned in the Daily Caller mentioned donations. Something they have no right to have access to. Donor lists are not for public consumption due to privacy laws. The stories implied there was something illegal about not knowing who their donors are as a matter fact.

Isn't the Daily Caller that same outfit that paid a Prostitute to accuse Democratic Senator Menedez of pedophilia?

Report: Lawyer links Daily Caller to paid Menendez prostitutes - Salon.com

Not sure..could you clarify?

From what I understand Menendez didn't deny anything.

So now you're trying to change the subject.

Are you still claiming the IRS didn't release their opposition research to a liberal propaganda machine run by George Soros until after the election regardless of the fact that they were writing stories for months before the election about Tea Party groups under IRS investigation?

 

[westwall]

It appears the IRS was doing opposition research for Democrats last year.




IRS released confidential info on conservative groups to ProPublica


By Josh Hicks, *Published: TUESDAY, MAY 14, 6:00 AM ET
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ProPublica on Monday reported that the same IRS division that targeted conservative groups for special scrutiny during the 2012 election cycle provided the investigative-reporting organization with confidential applications for tax-exempt status.
That revelation contradicts previous statements from the agency and may represent a violation of federal guidelines. Lois G. Lerner, who heads the IRS sector that reviews tax-exemption applications, told a congressional oversight committee in April 2012 that IRS code prohibited the agency from providing information about groups that had not yet been approved.

Reps. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) had asked Lerner in March 2012 to provide a list of all organizations that the IRS had subjected to special scrutiny.


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I would be filing a Civil RICO against the government employees involved, the lib organisation and its founders and of course good old Soros.

 

[westwall]

Already answered, once their tax exemption is APPROVED the info is allowed to be made public.

Only 9 Orgs had not had their tax exemption approved and none of them were reported on until AFTER the election. Admit it, your MessiahRushie made a sucker out of you yet again!

Bullshit. Name the nine groups you mentioned

The story says ProPublica released stories about them before the election.

Nice try though.


All these folks have to do is send out confusing stories to counter the facts and you libs lap it up and swallow the Kool-aid.

Liar!

You are only confused because you are still trying to rationalize your lies. All of the ProPublica reporting before Dec 14, 2012 was on already approved tax exempt Orgs. Name one that was not already approved that was reported on before Dec 14, 2012 or STFU!

It doesn't matter asshat, they obtained their info illegally and if it were me I would own their assets and those of their fucked up criminal founders after a nice long Civil RICO case.

 

[Mac1958]

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If this is true, and that's one helluva big "if", I hope all of the people who are defending and deflecting and insulting and mocking and diverting right now will demonstrate sincere outrage and demand a complete investigation and strong punishment for anyone found to be guilty.

Because otherwise, it will be clear that they're placing their political ideology above the Constitution.

This whole thing is fuck'n madness. It just gets worse.

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[edthecynic]

Btw, the story mentioned in the Daily Caller mentioned donations. Something they have no right to have access to. Donor lists are not for public consumption due to privacy laws. The stories implied there was something illegal about not knowing who their donors are as a matter fact.

Isn't the Daily Caller that same outfit that paid a Prostitute to accuse Democratic Senator Menedez of pedophilia?

Report: Lawyer links Daily Caller to paid Menendez prostitutes - Salon.com

Not sure..could you clarify?

From what I understand Menendez didn't deny anything.

So now you're trying to change the subject.

Are you still claiming the IRS didn't release their opposition research to a liberal propaganda machine run by George Soros until after the election regardless of the fact that they were writing stories for months before the election about Tea Party groups under IRS investigation?

Just further proof that you understand absolutely nothing! Menendez denied everything and accused the Daily Liar of making it all up.

And ProPublica was writing stories about how phony non-profits were allowed by the IRS headed by a Bush appointee to pervert the law and finance elections while denying it to the IRS in their tax exemption applications. All of the phony non-profits reported on before the election had been approved as tax exempt so their application information was legally available. It just happens that most of the lying cheats were CON$, but ProPublica reported on the rare Liberal cheats too, but lying scum like you would never acknowledge that! See below:

How Nonprofits Spend Millions on Elections and Call it Public Welfare - ProPublica

We also found that social welfare groups used a range of tactics to underreport their political activities to the IRS, a critical measure in determining whether they are entitled to remain tax-exempt.

Many groups told the IRS they spent far less on politics than they reported to federal election officials. Some classified expenditures that clearly praised or criticized candidates for office as "lobbying," "education" or "issue advocacy" on their tax returns.

One group, the Center for Individual Freedom, told election officials that it spent $2.5 million on ads in 2010, when it paid for commercials criticizing Democrats in 10 districts. But it reported to the IRS that it spent nothing to directly or indirectly influence elections, calling those same ads "education" or "legislative activities."

In several instances, nonprofits funneled much of their money to other 501(c)(4)s , which experts say is a way to meet, or appear to meet, IRS requirements for promoting social welfare. Yet records show the recipients of those grants spent much of their money on political activities, whether ads or voter-registration drives.

For example, almost 70 percent of America's Families First's 2010 expenditures went to grants to five social welfare nonprofits. Four spent money on ads supporting Democrats or criticizing Republicans, including one group that put almost half of its expenditures into political ads.

No one from the Center for Individual Freedom or the American Future Fund responded to phone calls and emails from ProPublica asking for comment. In a written statement, America's Families First said its primary purpose was "issue advocacy" but did not answer specific questions about grants.

Campaign-finance watchdogs say the IRS has not clarified rules for social welfare groups or enforced them vigorously.

"The tax laws are being ripped off and the public is being denied information to which they are entitled — namely, who is financing ads that are being run to influence their votes," said Fred Wertheimer, the president of Democracy 21, a watchdog group that has filed repeated complaints about 501(c)(4)s to regulators.

The IRS declined to answer questions from ProPublica for this story.

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Many established social welfare nonprofits, such as the Sierra Club or the National Right to Life Committee, spend only a fraction of their money on political ads. But a few groups have devoted most of their expenditures to ads that have an undeniable political component, ProPublica found.

A group called Economy Forward spent $173,470 on ads in March 2010 praising Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat, according to a transcript of the ad and public filings with eight TV stations in Nevada. That's almost 99 percent of the total the group told the IRS it spent that year. The group did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

More than three-quarters of the money the American Action Network — former Republican Sen. Coleman's group — told the IRS it spent in its 2010 tax year was for political ads. In an email, American Action Network spokesman Dan Conston said the group complied with all laws and government regulations.

"The IRS seems to blink if you push them on this, which is what groups like the American Action Network and Crossroads GPS are probably betting on," said Lloyd Hitoshi Mayer, an associate dean and law professor at the University of Notre Dame who specializes in the intersection of tax and political law.

 

[edthecynic]

Bullshit. Name the nine groups you mentioned

The story says ProPublica released stories about them before the election.

Nice try though.


All these folks have to do is send out confusing stories to counter the facts and you libs lap it up and swallow the Kool-aid.

Liar!

You are only confused because you are still trying to rationalize your lies. All of the ProPublica reporting before Dec 14, 2012 was on already approved tax exempt Orgs. Name one that was not already approved that was reported on before Dec 14, 2012 or STFU!

It doesn't matter asshat, they obtained their info illegally and if it were me I would own their assets and those of their fucked up criminal founders after a nice long Civil RICO case.

Again, nothing but a bold-faced lie! ProPublica obtained nothing illegally and if anything they should sue lying scum like you for slander.