Zone1 Is Christianity just an outlier sect of Judaism?

[Woodznutz]

It was spot on. Lose the brainwashing and go by the facts and history, not later revisionism. Many scholars at the university in Tel Aviv have zero problems with doing so, and so should Christians.

It's the 'tradition of the elders' that is the bone of contention. Hebrew scholars have excised all references to Jesus from their teachings and replaced them with "Jewish fables".

 

[DudleySmith]

What does that have to do with Judaism?

So you dont know what Judaism is, and think the post -Christian era rubbish is 'Judaism'? You're obviously confused.

 

[DudleySmith]

It's the 'tradition of the elders' that is the rat in the woodpile.

What 'tradition' is that? The Babylonians abandoned the Judiasm of Mose and Abraham and started their own cult. That cult evolved into the Sadducee and Pharisee rubbish, which in turn evolved into 'rabbinical Judaism' and other cults; don't be mislead by what they called themselves. Christians adhere to a continuance of the OT Judaism and the written Torah.

 

[Woodznutz]

So you dont know what Judaism is, and think the post -Christian era rubbish is 'Judaism'? You're obviously confused.

What is the "post-Christian" era?

 

[Woodznutz]

What 'tradition' is that? The Babylonians abandoned the Judiasm of Mose and Abraham and started their own cult. That cult evolved into the Sadducee and Pharisee rubbish, which in turn evolved into 'rabbinical Judaism' and other cults; don't be mislead by what they called themselves. Christians adhere to a continuance of the OT Judaism and the written Torah.

What is "OT Judaism?"

 

[DudleySmith]

Something positive and unexpected was revealed to me today since creating this thread. I am going to continue to focus on G_d rather than Jesus.

They are the same. Don't be misled by the counterfeit cultists here.

 

[DudleySmith]

What is "OT Judaism?"

You don't even know what OT stands for, yet you make claims here about it.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

God was the 'founding father' as he finally conferred the birthright blessing on the descendants of Joseph.

You understand things I see.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Something positive and unexpected was revealed to me today since creating this thread. I am going to continue to focus on G_d rather than Jesus.

If you don't know Jesus, you can't know God.

Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

 

[Woodznutz]

You don't even know what OT stands for, yet you make claims here about it.

My question was what is OT Judaism?

IOW, when and how did the Jews supplant the Levites?

 

[Woodznutz]

You understand things I see.

At least I believe that I do.

 

[irosie91]

My question was what is OT Judaism?

IOW, when and how did the Jews supplant the Levites?

someone SUPPLANTED ME? uhm......I is a levite

 

[Woodznutz]

someone SUPPLANTED ME? uhm......I is a levite

Did you wrest ecclesiastical control back from the Jews? If so, why isn't your religion called "Levitism"?

 

[Woodznutz]

You don't even know what OT stands for, yet you make claims here about it.

See post #188.

 

[irosie91]

Did you wrest ecclesiastical control back from the Jews? If so, why isn't your religion called "Levitism"?

there never was "ecclesiastical" control in Judea/Israel

 

[Woodznutz]

there never was "ecclesiastical" control in Judea/Israel

So, Judaism was basically in a state of religious anarchy?

What is the Jewish history of Judea in the time of Jesus, especially regarding the authority and leadership of Judaism? All I have is the New Testament writings.

 

[Woodznutz]

there never was "ecclesiastical" control in Judea/Israel

Rabbinical is a synonym of ecclesiastical.

 

[irosie91]

So, Judaism was basically in a state of religious anarchy?

What is the Jewish history of Judea in the time of Jesus, especially regarding the authority and leadership of Judaism? All I have is the New Testament writings.

interestingly----other than a king who actually did not have any religious authority--the
religion was in the hands of scholars ----groups of which existed in every community
as local courts. The local court members elected a kind of supreme court---the
SANHEDRIN situated in Jerusalem-----until the Roman era when the Romans did a
TAKE OVER of the system <<<< that is my understanding----it was sorta democratic.
at the local levels but then, IMHO----developed a kind of incestuous nature. Members
of the court were NOT confined to levites either on local levels or the Jerusalem

 

[DudleySmith]

My question was what is OT Judaism?

IOW, when and how did the Jews supplant the Levites?

Already posted links to the history. You can start with Ezra.

 

[DudleySmith]

there never was "ecclesiastical" control in Judea/Israel

lol it was classified as a 'Temple State' under the Romans. It was theocracy with hereditary priests.