Zone1 Is Christianity just an outlier sect of Judaism?

[DudleySmith]

Seriously. Comments like the above are what make me doubt everything you present. Jews are not on the losing end of anything. It could be that Christianity as a whole is judged by Jews because of what some Christians have done over time. The ones who quietly infuse Christianity in their own lives (as we are taught) are overlooked, but caught in the same label. This can happen/has happened by people of all faiths, people of all nationalities can have the same reaction towards people of other nationalities.

Keep in mind that people on all sides are keen to clean up the messes some have made, some are still making. If Jews cannot tell Christians where the messes are, then how can we help?

Seriously, you need to lose the brain washing. The counterfeit Jews started the massacre shitfests, and Christians still tolerate them, even though half of them would slit their throats if they thought they could get away with it. All 'Jews' are not alike, and few of them are the people of the Old Testament and of the covenants. The Hasidim are no more 'ancient' than the 18th Century, when they invented themselves as the racist cult they are today. Rabbinical Judaism came along a hundred years after the ministry of Jesus days.

The demographics of Israel are also very different than the demographics of American Jews. You aren't going to get extra ice cream in Heaven for buying the bullshit spread by frauds like Lisa and Viktor and Marty. Learn to spot the differences. Christians are more Jewish than any other sect of Judaism, theologically and morally.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Something positive and unexpected was revealed to me today since creating this thread. I am going to continue to focus on G_d rather than Jesus.

 

[ActionJackson]

Something positive and unexpected was revealed to me today since creating this thread. I am going to continue to focus on G_d rather than Jesus.

1 John 2:23, “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

Don't let a brilliant idea or an influential person lead you astray.

Matthew 24:24, “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”

 

[onefour1]

It is through Jesus Christ that God the Father has revealed himself to the world. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light.

 

[Meriweather]

Don't let a brilliant idea or an influential person lead you astray.

It is unfair to think he is being led astray. It is quite possible he is being guided by the Holy Spirit, even Jesus himself. It sounds like he may be feeling boxed in, perhaps by a concept with which he is comfortable. Perhaps it is time to add to the tapestry. Doesn't mean he is throwing out what came before.

 

[ActionJackson]

It is unfair to think he is being led astray. It is quite possible he is being guided by the Holy Spirit, even Jesus himself. It sounds like he may be feeling boxed in, perhaps by a concept with which he is comfortable. Perhaps it is time to add to the tapestry. Doesn't mean he is throwing out what came before.

The Holy Spirit would NEVER lead someone away from Jesus. NEVER!

 

[Meriweather]

The Holy Spirit would NEVER lead someone away from Jesus. NEVER!

Why do you think that is what is happening? It could be the Holy Spirit is leading him to a proper introduction. I once opened a teenage religion course by saying the first thing that needed to be done was to get rid of God....That is, the God they had built up in their minds as children and to be open to observing God re-entering their lives.

Do you remember Jesus saying that except for one, he has not lost one whom God has entrusted to him? For whatever reason, shockedcanadian wants to this without Jesus instead of along side Jesus. Perhaps he feels it is something he needs to do on his own? We.don't.know. Let's trust in God.

 

[Lisa558]

Seriously. Comments like the above are what make me doubt everything you present. Jews are not on the losing end of anything. It could be that Christianity as a whole is judged by Jews because of what some Christians have done over time. The ones who quietly infuse Christianity in their own lives (as we are taught) are overlooked, but caught in the same label. This can happen/has happened by people of all faiths, people of all nationalities can have the same reaction towards people of other nationalities.

Keep in mind that people on all sides are keen to clean up the messes some have made, some are still making. If Jews cannot tell Christians where the messes are, then how can we help?

He’s a REALLY nasty antisemite. I just ignore him at this point.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That's because you're not really familiar with the theology and think all those claiming to be 'Jews' are really Jewish. They aren't, they just like to lie to Christians about their beliefs, same as Muslims do. In fact, Muslims get a lot of their theology from the later cults, like the practice of taqiyya, for instance. Many of the cultists pray for the deaths of Christians and of course aided the Muslim invasions of the West, as soldiers and administrators. The Ottomans relied on Jewish arms factories for weapons.

We see a return to their love of the Turks and selling them weapons to kill Armenians with again. Palestine Jews loved Kemal and supported his genocides against the Armenians and Greeks in the WW I era, and now Netanyahu is sucking up to the Hasidim vermin and their extreme racism. Netanyahu mourned the death of this piece of shit in 2010 or so:

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, in his own words

The far-right Israeli cleric Rabbi Ovadia Yosef has made comments that would be condemned if they came from an Iranian leader.

www.csmonitor.com

Hundreds of thousands of his supporters took the streets of Jerusalem to mourn. Former Israeli President Shimon Peres visited with Mr. Yosef at his hospital bedside just hours before he passed, tenderly kissing his hand and forehead, according to The Jerusalem Post. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a statement issued by his office, spoke of his "profound grief" and said that "the Jewish People have lost one of the wisest men of his generation."

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For instance, in 2010 he said in a weekly Saturday night sermon that the sole purpose God put non-Jews on earth was to be servants to Jews.

"Goyim (gentiles, non-Jews) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel," he said, according to the Jerusalem Post. "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created." An "effendi" is a lord, or a master, in Arabic.

One can find more on the vermin via a search, same with the some of the Chabad Lubavitch scum and their 'Messiahs'. You need to educate yourself on the differences and and lose the fixtion that many of those claiming to be Jews today have zero to do with Abraham and Moses.

Preachers Pacifying

The Globalists are behind all this irrelevant, escapist, and distracting religious bickering in America. This running away from a clear and present danger was also going on when Roman power was slowly evaporating, leading to the destruction of civilization and the backward quantum leap into the Dark Ages, which was also called "The Age of Faith."

 

[Woodznutz]

Not even close. Jesus's whole ministry was based on the return to the Torah of Moses.

"Christianity is Judaism completed."- Benjamin Disraeli.

Apparently, Disraeli didn't understand Judaism.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Exactly. The JEWS were prophecied to return to the Land of ISRAEL, AND THEY DID. They are the true Jews

Daniel Boonestein

Israelis are also the role model for true Americans, building a profitable civilization out of a territory that was previously wasted on useless savages. Our own pioneers were the true Founding Fathers, not those Wags Wearing Wigs who wrote the ruling class's Constitution.

 

[Woodznutz]

jesus was never a jew ... they and those that gave their lives in the first century were a repudiation of judaism and the writings of moses.

for the inclusive heavenly religion of antiquity granted a&e for their journey and remission to paradise - taught by jesus through liberation theology, self determination.

Jesus was an ethnic Jew but not a Jew as in 'Judaism the religion'.

 

[Woodznutz]

Daniel Boonestein

Israelis are also the role model for true Americans, building a profitable civilization out of a territory that was previously wasted on useless savages. Our own pioneers were the true Founding Fathers, not those Wags Wearing Wigs who wrote the ruling class's Constitution.

God was the 'founding father' as he finally conferred the birthright blessing on the descendants of Joseph.

 

[DudleySmith]

Apparently, Disraeli didn't understand Judaism.

Disraeli was Jewish.

 

[DudleySmith]

He’s a REALLY nasty antisemite. I just ignore him at this point.

No, you don't. You really hate any posting of real facts about your racist cult fantasies. You were fed a lot of bigoted Scary Xian Stories as a kid and can't shake them. Keep sniveling, though, there are enough fools here who think you're a real Jew.

 

[Woodznutz]

Disraeli was Jewish.

Then he didn't understand Christianity. His statement was stupid.

 

[DudleySmith]

Jesus was an ethnic Jew but not a Jew as in 'Judaism the religion'.

Jesus based his ministry on the Torah of Moses entirely.

 

[DudleySmith]

Then he didn't understand Christianity. His statement was stupid.

It was spot on. Lose the brainwashing and go by the facts and history, not later revisionism. Many scholars at the university in Tel Aviv have zero problems with doing so, and so should Christians.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus based his ministry on the Torah of Moses entirely.

What does that have to do with Judaism?

 

[DudleySmith]

Daniel Boonestein

Israelis are also the role model for true Americans, building a profitable civilization out of a territory that was previously wasted on useless savages. Our own pioneers were the true Founding Fathers, not those Wags Wearing Wigs who wrote the ruling class's Constitution.

The British paid for most of it; they wanted a closer source for citrus fruits and a friendly port on that end of the Med, near the Canal Zone. After WW II came French and American support.