CDZ Is it appropriate for former president obama to conspire against the sitting President?

[Syriusly]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

I think all the polls on Obama's popularity and performance were rigged. If the polls had been correct hillary would be president...that pretty much proves my point.

Of course everything is rigged......like the election would have been rigged.....if Trump had not won....lol

You are certainly proving some points.

Perhaps not what you want to prove.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition. Though at this point I will stick to my theme of it being inappropriate....at least until more of what he has done and is doing is revealed. One big question is there any connection between Obama and the antifa movement. Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement - CNN

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun

1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or it's leadership.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United Statescontrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

So what in particular are you claiming might be 'seditious'?

Remember- just you imagining what President Obama might be doing in secret is just you imagining.

Lets stick to the facts.

The only thing we know of is that President Obama met with potential candidates for the 2020 Presidential election.

Why do you think that working with candidates for political office in the United States might be 'seditious'?

I have a second part to this- which I will post seperately.

....and of course I mentioned this report---'Obama's goal, according to a close family friend, .

What 'report'

What close family friend'?

Specifically.

Put up- or shut up.

Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett moves in to Kaloroma home | Daily Mail Online

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Former presidents should fade away quietly.

And they usually do. Every living ex-president has said this one sucks though. First time that has ever happened.

All the living Presidents were miserable Presidents though none were as bad as Obama. This country has a long history of poor leadership actually ...America is great not because of our so called leaders but in spite of them. Trump however is well on his way to becoming a truly great President. A real leader and one who is in touch with the White Working Class. Nuff said. Class dismissed.

'in touch with the White Working Class'

yep- enough said. lol

The joke is on you pal. The white working class elected Trump...............it’s clear that large numbers of white, working-class voters shifted from the Democrats to Mr. Trump. Over all, almost one in four of President Obama’s 2012 white working-class supporters defected from the Democrats in 2016, either supporting Mr. Trump or voting for a third-party candidate. A 2016 Review: Turnout Wasn’t the Driver of Clinton’s Defeat

 

[TheGreenHornet]

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition. Though at this point I will stick to my theme of it being inappropriate....at least until more of what he has done and is doing is revealed. One big question is there any connection between Obama and the antifa movement. Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement - CNN

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun

1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or it's leadership.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United Statescontrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

So what in particular are you claiming might be 'seditious'?

Remember- just you imagining what President Obama might be doing in secret is just you imagining.

Lets stick to the facts.

The only thing we know of is that President Obama met with potential candidates for the 2020 Presidential election.

Why do you think that working with candidates for political office in the United States might be 'seditious'?

I have a second part to this- which I will post seperately.

The key woids being 'might be' anyhow I was pretty clear in that I only claim what he is doing ...staying in the Capiitol etc. is just inappropriate...at least on the surface...what he is really doing behind closed doors could be much worse....and of course I mentioned this report---'Obama's goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump (Not quite to the level of a coup d etat but close) from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.' which obviously is very close to being seditious and certainly highly inappropriate for a former President to be plotting such activity in my opinion.s

No- you were pretty clear in saying you thought what he was doing might be seditious

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition.

Which is a very serious charge. I know in Trump's world, it is normal to just throw around accusations of breaking the law irregardless of the facts- but I am calling you on what you said.

Back it up- or admit you are just making this crap up.

I was very clear when I said I said I only claim Obama's actions are 'inappropriate'....I did say that his clandestine activities may be seditious....as in what he does in secret is not known and thus is open for conjecture but cannot at this point be proved though there was that report...supposedly from a close family friend.

• Obama's goal is to oust Trump from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment, a family friend tells DailyMail.com

Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett moves in to Kaloroma home | Daily Mail Online

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

I think all the polls on Obama's popularity and performance were rigged. If the polls had been correct hillary would be president...that pretty much proves my point.

You have made it clear that you think a lot of things that just don't match reality.

You are entitled to your opinion but that is all you have and it is not enough.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition. Though at this point I will stick to my theme of it being inappropriate....at least until more of what he has done and is doing is revealed. One big question is there any connection between Obama and the antifa movement. Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement - CNN

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun

1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or it's leadership.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United Statescontrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

So what in particular are you claiming might be 'seditious'?

Remember- just you imagining what President Obama might be doing in secret is just you imagining.

Lets stick to the facts.

The only thing we know of is that President Obama met with potential candidates for the 2020 Presidential election.

Why do you think that working with candidates for political office in the United States might be 'seditious'?

I have a second part to this- which I will post seperately.

The key woids being 'might be' anyhow I was pretty clear in that I only claim what he is doing ...staying in the Capiitol etc. is just inappropriate...at least on the surface...what he is really doing behind closed doors could be much worse....and of course I mentioned this report---'Obama's goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump (Not quite to the level of a coup d etat but close) from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.' which obviously is very close to being seditious and certainly highly inappropriate for a former President to be plotting such activity in my opinion.

But it is beginning to be more than obvious that Obama is pretty much irrelevant already and is becoming much more so every day...so in reality he is just working himself to death and accomplishing nothing...he was a failure..the worst president in modern history even exceeding Carter's miserable tenure. Yet obama and hillary are the only leaders the democratic party has...which demonstrates their diastrous situation.....and the Socialists are going to capitalize on that....as I mentioned before...if the Socialist Party can come up with a young charismatic candidate....goodbye democrats and it such a candidate would also be a formidable foe for Trump. Anyhow...go ahead and attempt to defend obama....quite meaningless at this point.

You throw around words like sedition for shock value just like our illegitimate president does. You chose Trump. You support Trump. You will have to deal with the blowback those choices cause. It's patriotic to work to remove the pathetic excuse for a president that we currently have. Your whining won't stop the country from using all efforts to return the US to sanity.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa talking about being divorced from reality. Trump's numbers keep going up....all indications now are the democrats will suffer a crushing defeat in the midterms. Do not say I did not warn you.

 

[BULLDOG]

Former presidents should fade away quietly.

And they usually do. Every living ex-president has said this one sucks though. First time that has ever happened.

All the living Presidents were miserable Presidents though none were as bad as Obama. This country has a long history of poor leadership actually ...America is great not because of our so called leaders but in spite of them. Trump however is well on his way to becoming a truly great President. A real leader and one who is in touch with the White Working Class. Nuff said. Class dismissed.

'in touch with the White Working Class'

yep- enough said. lol

The joke is on you pal. The white working class elected Trump...............it’s clear that large numbers of white, working-class voters shifted from the Democrats to Mr. Trump. Over all, almost one in four of President Obama’s 2012 white working-class supporters defected from the Democrats in 2016, either supporting Mr. Trump or voting for a third-party candidate. A 2016 Review: Turnout Wasn’t the Driver of Clinton’s Defeat

No. Crazies, Comey, and the Russians elected Trump

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

Bush made it very clear the only reason he was not attacking Obama was because of the way Carter constantlly attacked him....he vowed he would never do what Carter did. Deal wid it.

 

[BULLDOG]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

Bush made it very clear the only reason he was not attacking Obama was because of the way Carter constantlly attacked him....he vowed he would never do what Carter did. Deal wid it.

Yet even Bush said Trump is an embarrassment

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

Bush made it very clear the only reason he was not attacking Obama was because of the way Carter constantlly attacked him....he vowed he would never do what Carter did. Deal wid it.

Yet even Bush said Trump is an embarrassment

Establishment Republicans and Democrats on one side, We the People on the other.

When Obama shoved Obamacare down our throats Bush turned the other way.

When Obama apologized for America on foreign soil Bush was silent.

When Obama declared a war on police officers – Bush offered nary a peep.

When Obama waged war on religious liberty – Bush was AWOL.

And when Barack Obama vowed to fundamentally transform America — George W. Bush — stood down.

 

[BlackSand]

He wouldn't be very patriotic if he didn't work to stop and repair the damage done by Trump.

Well .. It's true President Trump has torn a lot of President Obama's stuff up.
I can see where that may piss the former President off ... Maybe he can get Robert De Niro to run.

.​

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Former presidents should fade away quietly.

And they usually do. Every living ex-president has said this one sucks though. First time that has ever happened.

All the living Presidents were miserable Presidents though none were as bad as Obama. This country has a long history of poor leadership actually ...America is great not because of our so called leaders but in spite of them. Trump however is well on his way to becoming a truly great President. A real leader and one who is in touch with the White Working Class. Nuff said. Class dismissed.

'in touch with the White Working Class'

yep- enough said. lol

The joke is on you pal. The white working class elected Trump...............it’s clear that large numbers of white, working-class voters shifted from the Democrats to Mr. Trump. Over all, almost one in four of President Obama’s 2012 white working-class supporters defected from the Democrats in 2016, either supporting Mr. Trump or voting for a third-party candidate. A 2016 Review: Turnout Wasn’t the Driver of Clinton’s Defeat

No. Crazies, Comey, and the Russians elected Trump

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa --how pathetic............you insult the American People.....shame on you.

 

[rightwinger]

Well, Carter laid the foundation by constantly attacking his successor....but obama has gone even further than Carter did....Inside Obama’s secret meetings with 2020 contenders

What such behavior demonstrates really is a lack of respect for the voters. and for America.

Conspire?

How is supporting candidates in your party a conspiracy

 

[BULLDOG]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

Bush made it very clear the only reason he was not attacking Obama was because of the way Carter constantlly attacked him....he vowed he would never do what Carter did. Deal wid it.

Yet even Bush said Trump is an embarrassment

Establishment Republicans and Democrats on one side, We the People on the other.

When Obama shoved Obamacare down our throats Bush turned the other way.

When Obama apologized for America on foreign soil Bush was silent.

When Obama declared a war on police officers – Bush offered nary a peep.

When Obama waged war on religious liberty – Bush was AWOL.

And when Barack Obama vowed to fundamentally transform America — George W. Bush — stood down.

It's noted that all the things you listed are out of context right wing accusations that have long been discredited, but are still part of the RWNJ littany of whining points.
Trump doesn't represent the country. The hateful right wing doesn't represent the country.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

He wouldn't be very patriotic if he didn't work to stop and repair the damage done by Trump.

Well .. It's true President Trump has torn a lot of President Obama's shit up.
I can see where that may piss the former President off ... Maybe he can get Robert De Niro to run.

.​

hehheh It is quite humorous how desperate the democrats are. Such losers.........look for the socialists to take big advantage of that. If the democrats had any sense they would shut down hillary and obama....team up with the socialists and find a young charasmatic socalist ...if one exists....the only way they can make any gains ...hopefully they keep snoozing as in he who snoozes loses. hehheh

I think a good socialist candidate would make Trump even more of populist aka Huey P. Long and do a lot more for the White Working Class....after all they elected him. Bottom line: I think a 3 party system is in our future...especially after Trump finishes his second term....there is no one on the horizon now that can beat him.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Bush never said anything negative about obama....he did not have secret meetings in Washington like obama, he did not stay in Washington D.C. like Obama....in fact Obama is the first former President to remain in the Capital after leaving office...what is he up to?.

You do understand that Obama was a popular president when he left office -- so him potentially campaigning on behalf of candidates is expected.

Meanwhile Bush was shunned by his own party the day he left office -- so much so that Republicans still pretend to this day that he didn't exist -- then there are desperate republicans like you who only bring Bush up to soothe your butthurt over Obama

Bush's presidency being the disaster that it was -- is what kept his mouth shut -- but even if he did speak out against Obama -- it's not wrong

Bush made it very clear the only reason he was not attacking Obama was because of the way Carter constantlly attacked him....he vowed he would never do what Carter did. Deal wid it.

Yet even Bush said Trump is an embarrassment

Establishment Republicans and Democrats on one side, We the People on the other.

When Obama shoved Obamacare down our throats Bush turned the other way.

When Obama apologized for America on foreign soil Bush was silent.

When Obama declared a war on police officers – Bush offered nary a peep.

When Obama waged war on religious liberty – Bush was AWOL.

And when Barack Obama vowed to fundamentally transform America — George W. Bush — stood down.

It's noted that all the things you listed are out of context right wing accusations that have long been discredited, but are still part of the RWNJ littany of whining points.
Trump doesn't represent the country. The hateful right wing doesn't represent the country.

I love it when the democrats snooze...keep snoozing. hehheh

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Well, Carter laid the foundation by constantly attacking his successor....but obama has gone even further than Carter did....Inside Obama’s secret meetings with 2020 contenders

What such behavior demonstrates really is a lack of respect for the voters. and for America.

Conspire?

How is supporting candidates in your party a conspiracy

Oh that is just the cover for his and Valerie's clandestine activities.............all the secrecy they employ is a big clue.

A good investigative reporter might eventually get through all that and what a scoop it would be.

 

[Syriusly]

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition. Though at this point I will stick to my theme of it being inappropriate....at least until more of what he has done and is doing is revealed. One big question is there any connection between Obama and the antifa movement. Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement - CNN

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun

1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or it's leadership.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United Statescontrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

So what in particular are you claiming might be 'seditious'?

Remember- just you imagining what President Obama might be doing in secret is just you imagining.

Lets stick to the facts.

The only thing we know of is that President Obama met with potential candidates for the 2020 Presidential election.

Why do you think that working with candidates for political office in the United States might be 'seditious'?

I have a second part to this- which I will post seperately.

The key woids being 'might be' anyhow I was pretty clear in that I only claim what he is doing ...staying in the Capiitol etc. is just inappropriate...at least on the surface...what he is really doing behind closed doors could be much worse....and of course I mentioned this report---'Obama's goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump (Not quite to the level of a coup d etat but close) from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.' which obviously is very close to being seditious and certainly highly inappropriate for a former President to be plotting such activity in my opinion.s

No- you were pretty clear in saying you thought what he was doing might be seditious

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition.

Which is a very serious charge. I know in Trump's world, it is normal to just throw around accusations of breaking the law irregardless of the facts- but I am calling you on what you said.

Back it up- or admit you are just making this crap up.

I was very clear when I said I said I only claim Obama's actions are 'inappropriate'....I did say that his clandestine activities may be seditious....as in what he does in secret is not known and thus is open for conjecture but cannot at this point be proved though there was that report...supposedly from a close family friend.

• Obama's goal is to oust Trump from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment, a family friend tells DailyMail.com

Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett moves in to Kaloroma home | Daily Mail Online

'supposedly from a close family friend'

An anonymous source.

Fake News.

From March 2017.

You Trumpsters will believe anything.

Here I have something for you to use for the future

 

[Syriusly]

Former presidents should fade away quietly.

And they usually do. Every living ex-president has said this one sucks though. First time that has ever happened.

All the living Presidents were miserable Presidents though none were as bad as Obama. This country has a long history of poor leadership actually ...America is great not because of our so called leaders but in spite of them. Trump however is well on his way to becoming a truly great President. A real leader and one who is in touch with the White Working Class. Nuff said. Class dismissed.

'in touch with the White Working Class'

yep- enough said. lol

The joke is on you pal. The white working class elected Trump..t

Yep- I can see that you are pretty excited that Trump relates to 'the white' Americans.

 

[Syriusly]

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition. Though at this point I will stick to my theme of it being inappropriate....at least until more of what he has done and is doing is revealed. One big question is there any connection between Obama and the antifa movement. Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement - CNN

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun

1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or it's leadership.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United Statescontrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

So what in particular are you claiming might be 'seditious'?

Remember- just you imagining what President Obama might be doing in secret is just you imagining.

Lets stick to the facts.

The only thing we know of is that President Obama met with potential candidates for the 2020 Presidential election.

Why do you think that working with candidates for political office in the United States might be 'seditious'?

I have a second part to this- which I will post seperately.

The key woids being 'might be' anyhow I was pretty clear in that I only claim what he is doing ...staying in the Capiitol etc. is just inappropriate...at least on the surface...what he is really doing behind closed doors could be much worse....and of course I mentioned this report---'Obama's goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump (Not quite to the level of a coup d etat but close) from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.' which obviously is very close to being seditious and certainly highly inappropriate for a former President to be plotting such activity in my opinion.s

No- you were pretty clear in saying you thought what he was doing might be seditious

There is a fine line between what Obama(and others)are doing and Sedition. In fact since all he is doing is not known....he is very secretive about it...it could very well be sedition.

Which is a very serious charge. I know in Trump's world, it is normal to just throw around accusations of breaking the law irregardless of the facts- but I am calling you on what you said.

Back it up- or admit you are just making this crap up.

I was very clear when I said I said I only claim Obama's actions are 'inappropriate'....I did say that his clandestine activities may be seditious....as in what he does in secret is not known and thus is open for conjecture

Sure- I just want to point out that Trump's clandestine activities may be seditious- as what he does in secret- and what he did in secret- before the election is thus open for conjecture.

Who knows how much the Russians have paid Trump? Who knows how many people Trump has ordered 'silenced' in order to keep them quiet? Who knows how many Russian spies are in his administration.

Yeah- Trump's actions are inappropriate- but he may be ordering treason. We just don't know.