Is it Time to Dismantle the FBI?

[equalizer_0]

The agents in the rank and file are great people and exemplary American citizens,

Humph. Straight A's from just the right school, just the right references on their resume, not even a misdemeanor or so much as a speeding ticket. And goodness no, not an arrest record!

, but the leadership is rotten to the core and must be shit out of Americas ass like a bad case of diarrhea

So squeaky clean they could only have been promoted from within. How in the world did they get so spoiled rotten?

 

[Old Rocks]

The FBI was designed for abusing investigative authority from the git-go. J Edgar Hoover used the intel he got to blackmail politicians for decades which is why it is so thin at the top levels of management with so much individual authority; to improve ability to get dirt on people without spilling the beans.

The agents in the rank and file are great people and exemplary American citizens, but the leadership is rotten to the core and must be shit out of Americas ass like a bad case of diarrhea.

Put the investigative offices under homeland security and put the leadership out in some office in Outer Slobovia shelling peanuts till they can retire.

Enough is enough.

Time to dismantle the administration of the stinking treasonous asshole of a President we have. Page was under investigation because of connections with Russian intel agents years before he was on the Trump staff. And what kicked off the investigation, according to even the memo, was Papadopoulos telling an Australian diplomat that Russia was supplying info on Clinton.

 

[Synthaholic]

The FBI was designed for abusing investigative authority from the git-go. J Edgar Hoover used the intel he got to blackmail politicians for decades which is why it is so thin at the top levels of management with so much individual authority; to improve ability to get dirt on people without spilling the beans.

The agents in the rank and file are great people and exemplary American citizens, but the leadership is rotten to the core and must be shit out of Americas ass like a bad case of diarrhea.

Put the investigative offices under homeland security and put the leadership out in some office in Outer Slobovia shelling peanuts till they can retire.

Enough is enough.

You're a fool. An anti-American fool.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Republicans, the supposed big law and order party now hates the FBI. Am I living in some alternate reality timeline or something?

unlike you we do not like nor tolerate a corrupt fbi

 

[Old Rocks]

And I have no tolerance for traitors like you.

 

[Staidhup]

Clean it up from the top down. Like a corrupt police department not all members within are corrupt, those that are, need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

 

[JimBowie1958]

MLK did not commit suicide.

MLK saw that rifle bullet coming at Dr Abernathy and leaped in front of it to save his life, he sure did.

No, seriously, MLK was a martyr to justice and Equality.

He was not a morally perfect man, of course, no one is, but he championed a very needful cause and died for it.

I am convinced he is with the angels now.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Get better, Jim!

Im sick and going to bed early.

Will get back to this tomorrow.

Good luck everyone, libs too, and have a safe warm weekend.

Slept well so far and woke up hungry.

That is always a good sign, the return of an appetite.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Once again, democrats fucked up. They didn’t think they would get caught.

They did not think Hillary would lose.

 

[Nia88]

Yes! Let's dismantle the FBI and replace them with brown uniformed men and women. They'll be loyal to Trump and his cause.

He won't have to worry about those pesky FBI agents meddling in his plans.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Yes! Let's dismantle the FBI and replace them with brown uniformed men and women.

Give them big Brown Trucks to drive and they can deliver packages while investigating crime...

Progressives are just dumber than a box of rocks...

 

[JimBowie1958]

but it is getting close to the time to remove the head of the Intel committee in the House and put someone else in there.... he's proven himself to be a partisan hack for the Executive office, the very office that the Intel Committee was CREATED for....to oversee the Executive branch.....right after Watergate.....

You just dont like Hispanics.

Seriously, Nunez has followed the laws of the land and rules of the House to the letter, and he is about the only one.

What outrages him, me and you should be too is that the FBI :
1) knew it was dealing with opposition research AND DID NOT TELL THE FISA COURT
2) After declaring Steele to be unreliable and ostracizing him officially from further interviews, etc, they set up a back door to bring in that opposition research horse shit via the Ohr couple, and Mrs Ohr was working at Fusion GPS on the anti-Trump research AND THE FBI KNEW IT AND AGAIN DID NOT REPORT IT IN THEIR REQUESTS FOR FISA WARRANTS.
3) We should not have a US government that spies on its own people except for good cause when there is a risk to the American people. That the GOP might win the White House is NOT such a situation, and it was only by withholding information from the FISA courts, which are set up to ensure legit investigations of Americans are the only investigations of them, the FBI and DOJ were trying to influence the election and 'guarantee' an outcome that they preferred.

Those things should make you angry and outraged at the FBI for abusing its authority, but you are more partisan than objective on this matter and cannot swee it because you refuse to out of loyalty to the Democratic Party.

And certainly NOT to be joined at the hip with them to obstruct and interfere with an ongoing investigation of the Russians and the Executive branch....through the obfuscation of top secret info recklessly by the President and created by a first year law student being paid $40 k as a staffer for Nunes and with the help of white house aids....

Every Democrat on the Russian investigation knows that there was no collusion with Russia, which is why they are talking about obstruction instead of the original collusion horse shit.

Me thinks the crooks and deceivers through the lack of transparency and full disclosure, are the R's in this matter....

Of course you do.

The courts have already ruled that just because information could have been gathered by an informant for partisan reasons, is no reason to disqualify the evidence.

BUT THE FISA COURTS HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN ISSUING WARRANTS THUS THEY ABSOLUTELY MUST BE TOLD ALL RELEVANT INFORMATION IN WARRANT REQUESTS.

The FBI hid that relevant information which is fraud and perjury.

Also the right wing created hot air memo, included the admission, in the very last paragraph, that this Russian Investigation did NOT BEGIN with the Dossier, but through Papadopolous......

That is not the argument. The wiretaps that yielded much of the info on the Trump campaign that was used to get warrants originated with the FISA warrants that were fraudulent and done with knowledge that it would favor one POTUS candidate instead of the other.

We do not need a Praetorian Guard in our Republic.

so all this bull crap by the Trumpster, that some fake dossier began all of this, is BULL SHIT, as usual....the man of lawlessness, is lying....has been lying and probably always will continue to lie.....

No because it did not prove what you think it was trying to prove does not equate it to bull crap.

The fraud the FBI engaged in is part of an emerging pattern among Federali Law Enforcement also seen at Ruby Ridge and most lately with the Finicum family is a very worrisome set of incidents that call into question the decreasing professionalism and honesty of our Federalis.

WHAT IS TRUMP SO AFRAID OF US FINDING OUT????
I just don't get it?

Trump is not trying to block the memo, the Dims were. Trump is also fully capable of simply ordering the Russian nitwittery to be brought to an end, but he wont.

He knows it is an excellent piece of rope to let the Dimocrats hang themselves with.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Yes! Let's dismantle the FBI and replace them with brown uniformed men and women. They'll be loyal to Trump and his cause.

No one has suggested dropping FBI agents from their investigative roles, idiot.

Again, you have simply failed to read what was posted and went off on a stupid rant.

But occasionally you have good posts, lol.

 

[KissMy]

Well I don't know about dismantling the FBI but we sure as hell need someone watching the watchers! That has become crystal clear. The FBI has a lot of really good people. They are just led by Obama/Hillary supporters who have a huge political and personal bias against Donald Trump. There is no place in our government for such people, especially in Intelligence.

Reeeeally??? So that' why the FBI went after Hillary & cost her the election. Trump is crying like the spoiled brat he is because the FBI is trying to do it's job.

 

[JimBowie1958]

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All of this based on a partisan memo by a Trump supporter?

It is based on known facts regarding the FBIs conspiracy to evade proper FISA court oversight and obtaining warrants on fraudulent requests in which they with held material facts from the FISA courts.

That does not concern you?

The FISA courts are a very slim reed to guard the people of the USA from a KGB style FBI improperly investigating and reviewing information on the people of the US that is not criminal in nature.

You want the US to have a KGB looking over our shoulder, really?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Really? So that' why the FBI went after Hillary & cost her the election. Trump is crying like the spoiled brat he is because the FBI is trying to do it's job.

ROFLMAO, the FBI did not go after Hillary they simply bungled the cover up of obvious crimes she committed.

Get your shit straight why dont you?

 

[Rambunctious]

If the shoe were on the other foot the media would be screaming bloody murder right now...If I were Trump I would start removing everyone responsible for this travesty of justice.....

 

[Care4all]

Seriously, Nunez has followed the laws of the land and rules of the House to the letter, and he is about the only one.

no he hasn't....if he wanted to do the right thing with the intelligence committee, he would have included the committee in the investigation and allowed hearings and testimony by the fbi and justice dept people involved and even fisa court judge if need be..... like the Committee does and did until his going wacko with his midnight ride clandestine drama he tried to pull off in March for the president and got kicked off as the Committee head for it...

he USED TO BE a good chairman and used to work side by side with the minority until a certain bad apple made him a bad apple too....

to be continued...

 

[JimBowie1958]

If the shoe were on the other foot the media would be screaming bloody murder right now...If I were Trump I would start removing everyone responsible for this travesty of justice.....

Nah, it is helping him by exposing the fact that their is a Deep State and how the media is willing to turn us all into thralls in order to attack Trump first.

 

[JimBowie1958]

no he hasn't....if he wanted to do the right thing with the intelligence committee, he would have included the committee in the investigation and allowed hearings and testimony by the fbi and justice dept people involved and even fisa court judge if need be..... like the Committee does and did until his going wacko with his midnight ride clandestine drama he tried to pull off in March for the president and got kicked off as the Committee for it...

Nunez invited the FBI repeatedly and they stonewalled him instead. He tried to be bipartisan but the Dems wouldnt even read the memo he wrote and their response was a joke of denialist fraud.

The only people obstructing justice and failing in their duties here were and still are the Democrats trying to provide cover for the DOJ and FBI in their abuse of authority.

PS, C4A, thank you for being reasonable in demeanor and attitude here. I know it must be frustrating to see your party's leadership fuck up one thing after another and still feel like you have to defend them. Loyalty can be like that.

Sometimes you have to just take a shower afterwards and have a soda and watch some tube afterwards.