Is race relations something that can be really healed?

[Marion Morrison]

I was listening to a program about Trumps age and how he was really too old to change his views on race. Which is why he rehashed his same views on the KKK and Alt Right that got him in trouble already. I also recently saw a banner in the stands of a sports game that read " Racism is as American as pie", or something along those lines until they removed it. I wonder if racism is so deeply inbred that we really can't change it, only tolerate it to some degrees?
Is racism a threat to the United states, or any other state for that matter.

Or has it become a beast that has enough support for it not to change? Racism is even behind North Korea's behavior; racism mixed with self survival is a deadly reality.

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

 

[Taz]

Actually, I lived in Canada for decades, it's a great place to live, much, much safer than the US. Not anywhere near the amount of hate from citizens directed at other citizens. No gun culture, virtually free healthcare... They have us beat by a mile as a nice, peaceful, safe place to live.

I've always heard those same things about Canada. But more recently I've heard that Muslim migrants are pouring across Canada's borders by the thousands, which is certain to pollute the social atmosphere and inflict a negative influence. What sort of effect do you think the "Sharia law" nonsense is going to have on the Canadian disposition? These radical Islamists are relentless.

While they've been comparatively quiet for awhile the Muslim problem is not a new phenomenon. If you've never read the history of the Crusades I respectfully suggest you do because this is by no mean the first Muslim invasion of the West. Our political leadership's failure to deal aggressively with this serious problem is simply prolonging the inevitable. At the very least they are poisoning the future of our children.

What we are witnessing is not immigration. It is the first stage of a strategically conceived incremental invasion, which is why 90% of the so-called migrants are military-age males. And if you'll take the time to research what is going on in Europe and Scandinavia you will find that it's a matter of time before these barbarians begin routinely raping Canadian women.

The Muslims need to be dealt with violently!

In my personal view the White man is far more dangerous than Muslims; but that is just my personal view. The White invasion on the world has far more deadly things than Muslims can even imagine to do to people; the White man has made it possible to destroy this very planet. So lets not jump on Muslims, who I think some of them can certainly be dangerous for sure, so I do some what understand you a bit.

But no race has even come close to the potential for evil like the White race, again in my view, so we need the White race to be a part of the cure, because the White race has made great advances in the area of healing and helping humanity.

The "White invasion" at least brought civilization, better hygiene, better food, better housing, education... Muslim invasions bring enslavement and carpet kissing... In other words, nothing useful for a society.

No it didn't.

Pull your pants up, your dishonesty is showing.

 

[MikeK]

It can but not the way described here. Whites are the problem so whites need to erase the problem from their midst. For as long as whites consider blacks who fight against racism as troublemakers then nothing can be solved.

They started out as slaves but negroes presently inhabit, or have inhabited, every level of power and prestige in the American social and political orders -- including the Presidency. Each incremental stage of this progression from abject, utterly powerless servitude to absolute lawful equality has come about as the result of efforts and actions by sympathetic, humanistic Whites. Not by petition, or by demands, or by any form of aggressive effort put forth by some negroes -- in spite of any egotistical, narcissistic delusions they may harbor.

Extreme events such as the Watts riot might achieve some immediate minor concession in terms of some relatively insignificant court decision. But the quiet resentment such significant anti-social behaviors engender on the part of the politically relevant social order operates to set back negro progress by generations.

 

[IM2]

It can but not the way described here. Whites are the problem so whites need to erase the problem from their midst. For as long as whites consider blacks who fight against racism as troublemakers then nothing can be solved.

They started out as slaves but negroes presently inhabit, or have inhabited, every level of power and prestige in the American social and political orders -- including the Presidency. Each incremental stage of this progression from abject, utterly powerless servitude to absolute lawful equality has come about as the result of efforts and actions by sympathetic, humanistic Whites. Not by petition, or by demands, or by any form of aggressive effort put forth by some negroes -- in spite of any egotistical, narcissistic delusions they may harbor.

Extreme events such as the Watts riot might achieve some immediate minor concession in terms of some relatively insignificant court decision. But the quiet resentment such significant anti-social behaviors engender on the part of the politically relevant social order operates to set back negro progress by generations.

Wrong.

I want you to show me when there has been a black president, black vice president an entire black cabinet as well as blacks holding the speaker of the house and senate majority leader positions. Then explain to me when congress was ever majority black. Then show me at what point have there ever been 50 black governors and entire state legislatures that are all black. I'll stop there, When you can do that then you can say that blacks controlled something.

You really have got things all wrong. But that's expected from a white conservative.

 

[IM2]

Actually, I lived in Canada for decades, it's a great place to live, much, much safer than the US. Not anywhere near the amount of hate from citizens directed at other citizens. No gun culture, virtually free healthcare... They have us beat by a mile as a nice, peaceful, safe place to live.

I've always heard those same things about Canada. But more recently I've heard that Muslim migrants are pouring across Canada's borders by the thousands, which is certain to pollute the social atmosphere and inflict a negative influence. What sort of effect do you think the "Sharia law" nonsense is going to have on the Canadian disposition? These radical Islamists are relentless.

While they've been comparatively quiet for awhile the Muslim problem is not a new phenomenon. If you've never read the history of the Crusades I respectfully suggest you do because this is by no mean the first Muslim invasion of the West. Our political leadership's failure to deal aggressively with this serious problem is simply prolonging the inevitable. At the very least they are poisoning the future of our children.

What we are witnessing is not immigration. It is the first stage of a strategically conceived incremental invasion, which is why 90% of the so-called migrants are military-age males. And if you'll take the time to research what is going on in Europe and Scandinavia you will find that it's a matter of time before these barbarians begin routinely raping Canadian women.

The Muslims need to be dealt with violently!

In my personal view the White man is far more dangerous than Muslims; but that is just my personal view. The White invasion on the world has far more deadly things than Muslims can even imagine to do to people; the White man has made it possible to destroy this very planet. So lets not jump on Muslims, who I think some of them can certainly be dangerous for sure, so I do some what understand you a bit.

But no race has even come close to the potential for evil like the White race, again in my view, so we need the White race to be a part of the cure, because the White race has made great advances in the area of healing and helping humanity.

The "White invasion" at least brought civilization, better hygiene, better food, better housing, education... Muslim invasions bring enslavement and carpet kissing... In other words, nothing useful for a society.

No it didn't.

Pull your pants up, your dishonesty is showing.

You're overly concerned with another mans pants Taz. Nothing dishonest in what I said. Your version however has major problems with accuracy and truth.

 

[MikeK]

Wrong.

I want you to show me when there has been a black president, black vice president an entire black cabinet as well as blacks holding the speaker of the house and senate majority leader positions. Then explain to me when congress was ever majority black. Then show me at what point have there ever been 50 black governors and entire state legislatures that are all black. I'll stop there, When you can do that then you can say that blacks controlled something.

You really have got things all wrong. But that's expected from a white conservative.

At the present time you have as much chance of seeing that as you have of looking in a mirror and seeing a blue-eyed blonde.

As I clearly explained in my comment, what you lack is patience. What you want will come about in the same way everything you presently have achieved came about, which is by a natural course of events -- each and every event being promoted by the efforts of humanistic and sympathetic Whites. But if you think you can accelerate the process by "kneeling," by raising hell in shopping malls, by sneak-punching old White people on the streets, then you are going to be singing "Ol' Man Ribba," for the next thousand years.

As I've said many times in this forum, there are two kinds of negroes in America. There are decent, law-abiding, peaceful Black people -- and there are n!ggers. And it's the n!ggers who are delaying Black progress in America with their stupid, ignorant, uncivilized bullshit. So you can go on voicing your delusions, lying to yourself and talking nonsense in place of reasoned arguments for as long as you wish, but every time you look in a mirror you will see the same thing.

 

[Asclepias]

I was listening to a program about Trumps age and how he was really too old to change his views on race. Which is why he rehashed his same views on the KKK and Alt Right that got him in trouble already. I also recently saw a banner in the stands of a sports game that read " Racism is as American as pie", or something along those lines until they removed it. I wonder if racism is so deeply inbred that we really can't change it, only tolerate it to some degrees?
Is racism a threat to the United states, or any other state for that matter.

Or has it become a beast that has enough support for it not to change? Racism is even behind North Korea's behavior; racism mixed with self survival is a deadly reality.

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I was listening to a program about Trumps age and how he was really too old to change his views on race. Which is why he rehashed his same views on the KKK and Alt Right that got him in trouble already. I also recently saw a banner in the stands of a sports game that read " Racism is as American as pie", or something along those lines until they removed it. I wonder if racism is so deeply inbred that we really can't change it, only tolerate it to some degrees?
Is racism a threat to the United states, or any other state for that matter.

Or has it become a beast that has enough support for it not to change? Racism is even behind North Korea's behavior; racism mixed with self survival is a deadly reality.

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

Where the fuck were you for the 40 years before Obama? Hmm?

STFU. Obama was a piece of shit trying to divide Americans and your dumb ass is playing right into his Muslim game.


How do you feel knowing Obama played you for a sucker?

 

[Asclepias]

I was listening to a program about Trumps age and how he was really too old to change his views on race. Which is why he rehashed his same views on the KKK and Alt Right that got him in trouble already. I also recently saw a banner in the stands of a sports game that read " Racism is as American as pie", or something along those lines until they removed it. I wonder if racism is so deeply inbred that we really can't change it, only tolerate it to some degrees?
Is racism a threat to the United states, or any other state for that matter.

Or has it become a beast that has enough support for it not to change? Racism is even behind North Korea's behavior; racism mixed with self survival is a deadly reality.

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

Where the fuck were you for the 40 years before Obama? Hmm?

STFU. Obama was a piece of shit trying to divide Americans and your dumb ass is playing right into his Muslim game.


How do you feel knowing Obama played you for a sucker?

I was living where I live now long before Obama was elected you moron. Prior to that I grew up with racist cops running rampant through my hood shooting, planting shit, and harassing Black people.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I was listening to a program about Trumps age and how he was really too old to change his views on race. Which is why he rehashed his same views on the KKK and Alt Right that got him in trouble already. I also recently saw a banner in the stands of a sports game that read " Racism is as American as pie", or something along those lines until they removed it. I wonder if racism is so deeply inbred that we really can't change it, only tolerate it to some degrees?
Is racism a threat to the United states, or any other state for that matter.

Or has it become a beast that has enough support for it not to change? Racism is even behind North Korea's behavior; racism mixed with self survival is a deadly reality.

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

Where the fuck were you for the 40 years before Obama? Hmm?

STFU. Obama was a piece of shit trying to divide Americans and your dumb ass is playing right into his Muslim game.


How do you feel knowing Obama played you for a sucker?

I was living where I live now long before Obama was elected you moron. Prior to that I grew up with racist cops running rampant through my hood shooting, planting shit, and harassing Black people.

You're in Mississippi?

 

[Asclepias]

I was listening to a program about Trumps age and how he was really too old to change his views on race. Which is why he rehashed his same views on the KKK and Alt Right that got him in trouble already. I also recently saw a banner in the stands of a sports game that read " Racism is as American as pie", or something along those lines until they removed it. I wonder if racism is so deeply inbred that we really can't change it, only tolerate it to some degrees?
Is racism a threat to the United states, or any other state for that matter.

Or has it become a beast that has enough support for it not to change? Racism is even behind North Korea's behavior; racism mixed with self survival is a deadly reality.

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

Where the fuck were you for the 40 years before Obama? Hmm?

STFU. Obama was a piece of shit trying to divide Americans and your dumb ass is playing right into his Muslim game.


How do you feel knowing Obama played you for a sucker?

I was living where I live now long before Obama was elected you moron. Prior to that I grew up with racist cops running rampant through my hood shooting, planting shit, and harassing Black people.

You're in Mississippi?

Nope. My grandfather had to move the family to Cali because he killed a peckerwood.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Umm, things were fine for 40 years+ before Obama's 2nd term. So yes, the divide will close.

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

Where the fuck were you for the 40 years before Obama? Hmm?

STFU. Obama was a piece of shit trying to divide Americans and your dumb ass is playing right into his Muslim game.


How do you feel knowing Obama played you for a sucker?

I was living where I live now long before Obama was elected you moron. Prior to that I grew up with racist cops running rampant through my hood shooting, planting shit, and harassing Black people.

You're in Mississippi?

Nope. My grandfather had to move the family to Cali because he killed a peckerwood.

Well, that's all in the past. My great grandfather moved to FL cuz he killed a peckerwood.

Racist peckerwood. Yessir. My grandma made them cut him down with a knife.

You being in CA doesn't exactly give you credibility points with me.
CA people are fake, everybody wants to be an actor.

Probably you, too.

 

[Mickiel]

Peace is possible , and enough of us can see it. While the racist fight and tear at each other, we can move forward and drag them along with us to peace.

 

[Asclepias]

No things werent fine. Cops were killing Blacks and Browns long before Obama was even relevant to the nation. Racism was and is still a large problem in the work force. Typically you whites have this idiotic idea that everything is peachy because you arent affected by it.

Where the fuck were you for the 40 years before Obama? Hmm?

STFU. Obama was a piece of shit trying to divide Americans and your dumb ass is playing right into his Muslim game.


How do you feel knowing Obama played you for a sucker?

I was living where I live now long before Obama was elected you moron. Prior to that I grew up with racist cops running rampant through my hood shooting, planting shit, and harassing Black people.

You're in Mississippi?

Nope. My grandfather had to move the family to Cali because he killed a peckerwood.

Well, that's all in the past. My great grandfather moved to FL cuz he killed a peckerwood.

Racist peckerwood. Yessir. My grandma made them cut him down with a knife.

You being in CA doesn't exactly give you credibility points with me.
CA people are fake, everybody wants to be an actor.

Probably you, too.

I'm mystified as to why you think my credibility with you is something I worry about?

FYI thats only in LA that everyone wants to be an actor. Turns me off too.

 

[Asclepias]

Even if that was true we know its not because when Blacks wore suits all the time and worked way harder than whites..whites were still racist and even burned down towns with affluent Blacks.

What does all of this have to do with today? Are you interested in sympathy, apology, guilt, or vengeance?

It has a lot to do with today unless you are retarded? Did you see what I replied to?

 

[Asclepias]

Is race relations something that can be healed? I think so, yes, - yet not without a struggle. A struggle that starts inward with yourself and then extends outward as you progress.

I believe race (Black/White) relations in the U.S. can be substantially improved by long-term patience and incremental adaptations -- not by struggle. Struggling produces friction and discord, which are the problems we're having now.

Simply stated, Nature must be allowed to take it's course, which is never quick. There will of course be tribulation, which is inevitable and unavoidable, but not nearly as much as will ultimately result from the mutual hostility that results from constant friction. Sensible, productive, peaceful Blacks must take control of the troublemakers in their midst and suppress them and Whites will do the same -- as they have done ever since the Jim Crow era was abandoned. But it must be understood that the social circumstances embedded in American culture by slavery will take many generations to transform. Efforts to hasten the process will not only fail but will cause constant friction -- as it has been doing.

It can but not the way described here. Whites are the problem so whites need to erase the problem from their midst. For as long as whites consider blacks who fight against racism as troublemakers then nothing can be solved.

Exactly. As long as whites want to be racist we will be here to give them indegestion. They straighten up and we can be civil. Personally I could care less either way. We will outlast whites. We are designed by nature to do so.

 

[Markle]

It can but not the way described here. Whites are the problem so whites need to erase the problem from their midst. For as long as whites consider blacks who fight against racism as troublemakers then nothing can be solved.

How are whites the problem? Race relations were far better prior to our electing racist President Barack Hussein Obama. It has gone downhill ever since.

Why do you not rightly say: "as long as blacks consider whites who fight against racism as troublemakers then nothing can be solved"?

 

[MikeK]

Exactly. As long as whites want to be racist we will be here to give them indegestion. They straighten up and we can be civil. Personally I could care less either way. We will outlast whites. We are designed by nature to do so.

"As long as Whites want to be racist. . .

Again, that word. "Racist." What specifically and exactly does it mean? And whatever meaning you have assigned to it, are you quite certain it applies to all Whites? Most Whites?

Do you think I am a "racist?" If so, why? Specifically how does my "racism" manifest?

 

[Markle]

No it didn't.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Is race relations something that can be healed? I think so, yes, - yet not without a struggle. A struggle that starts inward with yourself and then extends outward as you progress.

I believe race (Black/White) relations in the U.S. can be substantially improved by long-term patience and incremental adaptations -- not by struggle. Struggling produces friction and discord, which are the problems we're having now.

Simply stated, Nature must be allowed to take it's course, which is never quick. There will of course be tribulation, which is inevitable and unavoidable, but not nearly as much as will ultimately result from the mutual hostility that results from constant friction. Sensible, productive, peaceful Blacks must take control of the troublemakers in their midst and suppress them and Whites will do the same -- as they have done ever since the Jim Crow era was abandoned. But it must be understood that the social circumstances embedded in American culture by slavery will take many generations to transform. Efforts to hasten the process will not only fail but will cause constant friction -- as it has been doing.

It can but not the way described here. Whites are the problem so whites need to erase the problem from their midst. For as long as whites consider blacks who fight against racism as troublemakers then nothing can be solved.

Exactly. As long as whites want to be racist we will be here to give them indegestion. They straighten up and we can be civil. Personally I could care less either way. We will outlast whites. We are designed by nature to do so.

Yeah, by being so self sufficient and not relying on society or government help to get by.

When's the last time you shot a squirrel and cooked it, hmm?

You know real old-time blacks did that on the regular, right?

They'd get da possum, too.

I smelled a possum once, I can't eat that, and ain't got the heart to kill coons.


I know coons'd be good meat because they're like little bears. Bear meat is good.