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Y'all know that Obama is more interested in tackling climate change than McCain, right?
We'll never know if we don't try.
It makes sense to me (has for years) that climate change is an opportunity for job growth. And development of new tech startups.
We'll never know if we don't try.
It makes sense to me (has for years) that climate change is an opportunity for job growth. And development of new tech startups.
oh ya---green --everything green--we're gonna bet the farm on green. Green jobs, green cars, green corporations even. I wonder who owns them ? I wonder what green costs ?
I think since it's going to cost a gazillion dollars we might wanna go into with a little more knowledge that Al Gore has. Renewable energy is a far cry from obsessing about climate change.
Green is just another marketing concept for earning green.
Where do you get a gazillion dollars?
The Bush Tax break in 2000 would have built enough wind farms to power the nations electrical grid 100%.
Doesn't address transportation, but puts it into perspective.
The party is over. The economic crisis is just beginning. What's coming will make the great depression look like a mild economic downturn. No matter who is elected, we are about to become a third world country armed with 20-30 thousand nuclear warheads.
The rest of the world won't appreciate the fact that we dragged them down with us. Overtly or covertly, they will all turn against us.
Maybe God will have mercy on us, no one else will.
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So the plan is we're all going to become subsistance farmers for the rest of our lives?
Man, are you guys in for a shock.
Sure with careful planning and a whole lot of supplies you can probably survive a period of anarchy and hard times. I do not doubt that for a minute.
But in the long run?
In the long run susistance farming is slow starvation. Most of you will be basically one disasterous weather event or one unforeseeable accident away from tragedy without the background civil society to fall back on.
Why do you suppose the moment the industrial revolution came to town, the rural areas depopulated and the cities filled with people willing to live in the slums rather than in the country?
Those people knew HOW to subsistence suvive off the land, and they couldn't WAIT to get a crappy factory job where they'd be worked to death in conditions that few of us can really imagine today.
Maintaining a civil industrialized society is worth the fight.
Not subsistence farming ed
You love the melodramatic extreme position don't you.
My point was that my wife and I are running our business and saving every dime we can for retirement. In that sense we are living what was the American dream. Now it seems to be Americans want the government to take care of them.
People blindly follow pols and trends, buying shit they can't afford and believe it's their right that someone else pick up the tab.
Personal responsibility be damned. You are called selfish if you want to keep the money you earn. You are not being neighborly if you don't shell out your money to bail out some dumb shit who mortgaged his home to the hilt to buy a boat.
Personally I would rather build my home on some acreage Take care of my dogs and horses, grow some of my own food because I believe in self reliance even if it is out of vogue.
And this whole "green" economy thing is bullshit.
If BHO or anyone really wanted a "green" economy they wouldn't be talking about all this ten year down the road shit.
They'd be talking about changing building codes to require solar hot water heaters, to require the use of insulated concrete building forms and passive solar designs and ground source heat pumps.
I could build a home today that would be so energy efficient that its carbon footprint would be 70% less than the average new home. I could do it with existing technology and not wait ten years for a wasteful government bureaucracy to tax me to get it done.
Pols don't want "green" technology, they want to say they do so that powerful people who invest in wind that happen to give shit loads of money to their campaigns can have their stock prices rise.
Green is just a new buzz word. Like commie used to be.