Is the UK Leaving the EU a Bad Harbinger for Globalism and Hillary, Their Puppet?

[NYcarbineer]

An honest admission of partisan hypocrisy.

IT is not hypocritical at all because 1. I am openly proclaiming it, and 2. I am not being inconsistent in my principles at all.

The Democratic Party has over the last two years proven itself to be a Fifth Column for the international corporations and an invasion of unassimillable foreign hordes who will forever destroy the culture and meaning of what being an American is.

The Democratic Party is the party for destroying America, the party of treason and criminal exploitation.

Obama Invites 18.7 Million Immigrants to Avoid Oath of Allegiance, Pledge to Defend America - Breitbart

You lunacy is finally starting to bloom. Very common among the closet RWnuts around here. Eventually they all come out.

 

[JimBowie1958]

An honest admission of partisan hypocrisy.

IT is not hypocritical at all because 1. I am openly proclaiming it, and 2. I am not being inconsistent in my principles at all.

The Democratic Party has over the last two years proven itself to be a Fifth Column for the international corporations and an invasion of unassimillable foreign hordes who will forever destroy the culture and meaning of what being an American is.

The Democratic Party is the party for destroying America, the party of treason and criminal exploitation.

Obama Invites 18.7 Million Immigrants to Avoid Oath of Allegiance, Pledge to Defend America - Breitbart

You lunacy is finally starting to bloom. Very common among the closet RWnuts around here. Eventually they all come out.

Lol, no, lunacy is bringing in 18.7 million immigrants and not require them to take the Oath of Allegiance to defend the USA.

 

[rdean]

The people of the UK have spoken and they told the international corporations to shove it, they want out of their Globaloney EU horseshit.

Since Hillary Clinton is basically the avatar for Corporate Globalism, is the UK leaving the EU a bad sign for her success?

Actually, it's a bad sign for anyone with a 401.

 

[rdean]

An honest admission of partisan hypocrisy.

IT is not hypocritical at all because 1. I am openly proclaiming it, and 2. I am not being inconsistent in my principles at all.

The Democratic Party has over the last two years proven itself to be a Fifth Column for the international corporations and an invasion of unassimillable foreign hordes who will forever destroy the culture and meaning of what being an American is.

The Democratic Party is the party for destroying America, the party of treason and criminal exploitation.

Obama Invites 18.7 Million Immigrants to Avoid Oath of Allegiance, Pledge to Defend America - Breitbart

You lunacy is finally starting to bloom. Very common among the closet RWnuts around here. Eventually they all come out.

Lol, no, lunacy is bringing in 18.7 million immigrants and not require them to take the Oath of Allegiance to defend the USA.

18,700,000? Why not a Brazillion?

 

[bripat9643]

Funny

Since most of the "pro globalist" policies come from industrialized states such as the UK.

I don't think this is a blow to globalization or Hillary. If it is a monetary set back, it is only temporarily.

However, I do think this maybe a blow to England's growth over the next few years. England may see lax immigration policies and industrial flight as the state adjust to the new market realities.

Brexit may work against the people who thought they were reclaiming their country.

Short term:
£120 billion off the stock market
7% drop in currency


Medium term:
Scotland goes independent
Northern Ireland will need an arrangement
UK will get screwed when looking for an EU free trade agreement
Recession almost guaranteed

Long term:
Major Job Losses in Financial Services & IT
Significantly weaker England and Wales

Other issues:
Ireland will become US new best friend in EU
EU could become more integrated, UK were the check in stopping the United States of Europe...
EU Army...

Prove any of that will happen.

First two have already happened...

Scotland will most likely go... They had a huge majority to stay and narrow vote to not go for independence the last time...

With Scotland gone, Gibraltar under huge pressure from Spain.. They will be losing financial services to Paris, Frankfurt and Dublin.. London is the engine of the UK economy and they just cut their balls... Thus the recession...

bripat, you don't know how import being able to free trade in Europe is... Imagine a state in the US unable to free trade with other states effectively... The Germans will turn the screw.. Ireland and France will want free trade quickly but there is plenty of states that want UK to feel the pain...

With UK out of EU then US will be dealing with them directly or using Ireland... UK used to be the US guys(allies) in EU...

The UK is already talking about regret.. They got a shock immediately when the Pound dropped 7%, this is holiday season...

The first two are temporary and will evaporate once the establishment politicians and the media quit wailing about what a catastrophe it is. It's only a catastrophe for them.

Who says free trade is going to end because the UK left the EU? You're making a lot of assumptions that have no visible means of support.

You obviously don't know how the EU works... You pay to play and these deals take years to put together..

It is not just simply free trade... For starters every member of the EU can veto any free trade agreement with the UK. And the UK is not the most popular with all of them. Ireland will allow them in all day but there are others who will object, Spain for starters unless they get Gibralter... Greece will have a demand or two as well...

All this is described in Article 50 of the EU constitution...

Lets make no mistake this is a disaster for the UK, one they will regret... There is very little up side and whole lot of down... UK has to have free trade with EU or it suffer very badly.. There economy is too open, they are the 'nation of shopkeepers'...

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

 

[bripat9643]

Short term:
£120 billion off the stock market
7% drop in currency


Medium term:
Scotland goes independent
Northern Ireland will need an arrangement
UK will get screwed when looking for an EU free trade agreement
Recession almost guaranteed

Long term:
Major Job Losses in Financial Services & IT
Significantly weaker England and Wales

Other issues:
Ireland will become US new best friend in EU
EU could become more integrated, UK were the check in stopping the United States of Europe...
EU Army...

Prove any of that will happen.

First two have already happened...

Scotland will most likely go... They had a huge majority to stay and narrow vote to not go for independence the last time...

With Scotland gone, Gibraltar under huge pressure from Spain.. They will be losing financial services to Paris, Frankfurt and Dublin.. London is the engine of the UK economy and they just cut their balls... Thus the recession...

bripat, you don't know how import being able to free trade in Europe is... Imagine a state in the US unable to free trade with other states effectively... The Germans will turn the screw.. Ireland and France will want free trade quickly but there is plenty of states that want UK to feel the pain...

With UK out of EU then US will be dealing with them directly or using Ireland... UK used to be the US guys(allies) in EU...

The UK is already talking about regret.. They got a shock immediately when the Pound dropped 7%, this is holiday season...

Free trade in Europe is not contingent on being a member of the EU.

Your right but you need every member in the EU to agree to a free trade agreement.

Honestly I don't see Brexit ever becoming reality, but if it does the Brits would in all likelihood sign on to the European Economic Area, which ironically guarantees the free movement of people. Too funny, Cons are a bunch of tools.

Both predictions are wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

I never claimed that. Obama's electoral victory was a landslide; that's how we elect presidents remember.

When 4 people out of a hundred represent the difference between pass and fail, you're not talking about any sort of consensus.

And I guarantee that if Hillary Clinton wins 52 to 48, there will not be a RWnut on this board, including you, who will deem that a mandate.

A 4% margin is not a landslide but it is a significant margin of victory. The Leave vote was over a million votes larger than the Remain vote, and after Scotland gets cut loose, it will never again ever be even that close.

That's impressive when you consider all the politicians, government officials and corporations that were lined up against Brexit.

 

[bripat9643]

Honestly I don't see Brexit ever becoming reality, but if it does the Brits would in all likelihood sign on to the European Economic Area, which ironically guarantees the free movement of people. Too funny, Cons are a bunch of tools.

I disagree.

Euroskepticism has been around for a long time in the Tory party, and now they are going to be leading the party, they will take Britain out.

More likely is that the UK has another referendum to rejoin in 20-30 years.

More likely is that the UK has another referendum to rejoin in 20-30 years.

I have considered this also, not in terms of timing, but in terms of what would be required for renegotiation of EU membership. Acceptance of the Euro perhaps?

it will never pass n 20-30 years because the British economy will zoom so far ahead of the EU that the politicians won't be able to hide the difference.

 

[Tehon]

Short term:
£120 billion off the stock market
7% drop in currency


Medium term:
Scotland goes independent
Northern Ireland will need an arrangement
UK will get screwed when looking for an EU free trade agreement
Recession almost guaranteed

Long term:
Major Job Losses in Financial Services & IT
Significantly weaker England and Wales

Other issues:
Ireland will become US new best friend in EU
EU could become more integrated, UK were the check in stopping the United States of Europe...
EU Army...

Prove any of that will happen.

First two have already happened...

Scotland will most likely go... They had a huge majority to stay and narrow vote to not go for independence the last time...

With Scotland gone, Gibraltar under huge pressure from Spain.. They will be losing financial services to Paris, Frankfurt and Dublin.. London is the engine of the UK economy and they just cut their balls... Thus the recession...

bripat, you don't know how import being able to free trade in Europe is... Imagine a state in the US unable to free trade with other states effectively... The Germans will turn the screw.. Ireland and France will want free trade quickly but there is plenty of states that want UK to feel the pain...

With UK out of EU then US will be dealing with them directly or using Ireland... UK used to be the US guys(allies) in EU...

The UK is already talking about regret.. They got a shock immediately when the Pound dropped 7%, this is holiday season...

The first two are temporary and will evaporate once the establishment politicians and the media quit wailing about what a catastrophe it is. It's only a catastrophe for them.

Who says free trade is going to end because the UK left the EU? You're making a lot of assumptions that have no visible means of support.

You obviously don't know how the EU works... You pay to play and these deals take years to put together..

It is not just simply free trade... For starters every member of the EU can veto any free trade agreement with the UK. And the UK is not the most popular with all of them. Ireland will allow them in all day but there are others who will object, Spain for starters unless they get Gibralter... Greece will have a demand or two as well...

All this is described in Article 50 of the EU constitution...

Lets make no mistake this is a disaster for the UK, one they will regret... There is very little up side and whole lot of down... UK has to have free trade with EU or it suffer very badly.. There economy is too open, they are the 'nation of shopkeepers'...

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

Switzerland only receives the benefit of access to the European single market because they have accepted EU open borders policy. The UK will do the same.

 

[bripat9643]

Prove any of that will happen.

First two have already happened...

Scotland will most likely go... They had a huge majority to stay and narrow vote to not go for independence the last time...

With Scotland gone, Gibraltar under huge pressure from Spain.. They will be losing financial services to Paris, Frankfurt and Dublin.. London is the engine of the UK economy and they just cut their balls... Thus the recession...

bripat, you don't know how import being able to free trade in Europe is... Imagine a state in the US unable to free trade with other states effectively... The Germans will turn the screw.. Ireland and France will want free trade quickly but there is plenty of states that want UK to feel the pain...

With UK out of EU then US will be dealing with them directly or using Ireland... UK used to be the US guys(allies) in EU...

The UK is already talking about regret.. They got a shock immediately when the Pound dropped 7%, this is holiday season...

The first two are temporary and will evaporate once the establishment politicians and the media quit wailing about what a catastrophe it is. It's only a catastrophe for them.

Who says free trade is going to end because the UK left the EU? You're making a lot of assumptions that have no visible means of support.

You obviously don't know how the EU works... You pay to play and these deals take years to put together..

It is not just simply free trade... For starters every member of the EU can veto any free trade agreement with the UK. And the UK is not the most popular with all of them. Ireland will allow them in all day but there are others who will object, Spain for starters unless they get Gibralter... Greece will have a demand or two as well...

All this is described in Article 50 of the EU constitution...

Lets make no mistake this is a disaster for the UK, one they will regret... There is very little up side and whole lot of down... UK has to have free trade with EU or it suffer very badly.. There economy is too open, they are the 'nation of shopkeepers'...

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

Switzerland only receives the benefit of access to the European single market because they have accepted EU open borders policy. The UK will do the same.

Looks like you are mistaken:

Switzerland–European Union relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The relations between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) are framed by a series of bilateral treaties whereby the Swiss Confederation has adopted various provisions of European Union law in order to participate in the Union's single market.

In February 2014, the Swiss voted in a referendum to introduce quotas for all migrants in Switzerland. Such a quota system would, if implemented, violate the agreement between Switzerland and the European Union on the free movement of persons, and so terminate all the various bilateral agreements between Switzerland and the European Union.​

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[paulitician]

The NWO Globalist scum will seek revenge on Great Britain. So it's gonna be a struggle for a bit. But the Brits have gotten their independence back. They're very brave people. Now Americans see that the NWO scum can be defeated. Let's hope we start pushing for our independence.

But the Brits have gotten their independence back.

The Brits haven't gotten squat but the ability to make their preference known. Now the hard work begins, this thing is far from settled.

Oh i know. The NWO bastards won't just go away quietly. They're hateful scum. They'll seek revenge. But i think the Brits can handle it. And hopefully more nations will follow their lead. It's time to boot the Globalist Elites and gain independence.

 

[paulitician]

When the most popular baby name in England is now "Mohammad", it was time to get the hell out of the EU.

Yes, now they can really address their immigration debacle. The NWO assholes really have done a number on England's immigration policies. They've just about destroyed the country.

 

[Kristian]

I votes in second choise.

 

[Tehon]

First two have already happened...

Scotland will most likely go... They had a huge majority to stay and narrow vote to not go for independence the last time...

With Scotland gone, Gibraltar under huge pressure from Spain.. They will be losing financial services to Paris, Frankfurt and Dublin.. London is the engine of the UK economy and they just cut their balls... Thus the recession...

bripat, you don't know how import being able to free trade in Europe is... Imagine a state in the US unable to free trade with other states effectively... The Germans will turn the screw.. Ireland and France will want free trade quickly but there is plenty of states that want UK to feel the pain...

With UK out of EU then US will be dealing with them directly or using Ireland... UK used to be the US guys(allies) in EU...

The UK is already talking about regret.. They got a shock immediately when the Pound dropped 7%, this is holiday season...

The first two are temporary and will evaporate once the establishment politicians and the media quit wailing about what a catastrophe it is. It's only a catastrophe for them.

Who says free trade is going to end because the UK left the EU? You're making a lot of assumptions that have no visible means of support.

You obviously don't know how the EU works... You pay to play and these deals take years to put together..

It is not just simply free trade... For starters every member of the EU can veto any free trade agreement with the UK. And the UK is not the most popular with all of them. Ireland will allow them in all day but there are others who will object, Spain for starters unless they get Gibralter... Greece will have a demand or two as well...

All this is described in Article 50 of the EU constitution...

Lets make no mistake this is a disaster for the UK, one they will regret... There is very little up side and whole lot of down... UK has to have free trade with EU or it suffer very badly.. There economy is too open, they are the 'nation of shopkeepers'...

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

Switzerland only receives the benefit of access to the European single market because they have accepted EU open borders policy. The UK will do the same.

Looks like you are mistaken:

Switzerland–European Union relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The relations between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) are framed by a series of bilateral treaties whereby the Swiss Confederation has adopted various provisions of European Union law in order to participate in the Union's single market.

In February 2014, the Swiss voted in a referendum to introduce quotas for all migrants in Switzerland. Such a quota system would, if implemented, violate the agreement between Switzerland and the European Union on the free movement of persons, and so terminate all the various bilateral agreements between Switzerland and the European Union.​

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No I don't think I am mistaken. That referendum has yet to be implemented so it alters nothing that I said. And if it is implemented the EU then has the option of invoking the Guillotine Clause thereby denying the Swiss access to the single market which would adversely affect the Swiss export economy.

 

[bripat9643]

The first two are temporary and will evaporate once the establishment politicians and the media quit wailing about what a catastrophe it is. It's only a catastrophe for them.

Who says free trade is going to end because the UK left the EU? You're making a lot of assumptions that have no visible means of support.

You obviously don't know how the EU works... You pay to play and these deals take years to put together..

It is not just simply free trade... For starters every member of the EU can veto any free trade agreement with the UK. And the UK is not the most popular with all of them. Ireland will allow them in all day but there are others who will object, Spain for starters unless they get Gibralter... Greece will have a demand or two as well...

All this is described in Article 50 of the EU constitution...

Lets make no mistake this is a disaster for the UK, one they will regret... There is very little up side and whole lot of down... UK has to have free trade with EU or it suffer very badly.. There economy is too open, they are the 'nation of shopkeepers'...

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

Switzerland only receives the benefit of access to the European single market because they have accepted EU open borders policy. The UK will do the same.

Looks like you are mistaken:

Switzerland–European Union relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The relations between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) are framed by a series of bilateral treaties whereby the Swiss Confederation has adopted various provisions of European Union law in order to participate in the Union's single market.

In February 2014, the Swiss voted in a referendum to introduce quotas for all migrants in Switzerland. Such a quota system would, if implemented, violate the agreement between Switzerland and the European Union on the free movement of persons, and so terminate all the various bilateral agreements between Switzerland and the European Union.​

.

No I don't think I am mistaken. That referendum has yet to be implemented so it alters nothing that I said. And if it is implemented the EU then has the option of invoking the Guillotine Clause thereby denying the Swiss access to the single market which would adversely affect the Swiss export economy.

You claimed Switzerland was going along with the open borders policy of the EU. That claim was clearly wrong.

Switzerland is one of the biggest exporters in Europe on a per capita basis. It trades with a lot of countries beside the EU. The EU can try to bully it, but it will lose just as much as Switzerland if it imposes tariffs on Switzerland.

 

[Tehon]

You obviously don't know how the EU works... You pay to play and these deals take years to put together..

It is not just simply free trade... For starters every member of the EU can veto any free trade agreement with the UK. And the UK is not the most popular with all of them. Ireland will allow them in all day but there are others who will object, Spain for starters unless they get Gibralter... Greece will have a demand or two as well...

All this is described in Article 50 of the EU constitution...

Lets make no mistake this is a disaster for the UK, one they will regret... There is very little up side and whole lot of down... UK has to have free trade with EU or it suffer very badly.. There economy is too open, they are the 'nation of shopkeepers'...

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

Switzerland only receives the benefit of access to the European single market because they have accepted EU open borders policy. The UK will do the same.

Looks like you are mistaken:

Switzerland–European Union relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The relations between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) are framed by a series of bilateral treaties whereby the Swiss Confederation has adopted various provisions of European Union law in order to participate in the Union's single market.

In February 2014, the Swiss voted in a referendum to introduce quotas for all migrants in Switzerland. Such a quota system would, if implemented, violate the agreement between Switzerland and the European Union on the free movement of persons, and so terminate all the various bilateral agreements between Switzerland and the European Union.​

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No I don't think I am mistaken. That referendum has yet to be implemented so it alters nothing that I said. And if it is implemented the EU then has the option of invoking the Guillotine Clause thereby denying the Swiss access to the single market which would adversely affect the Swiss export economy.

You claimed Switzerland was going along with the open borders policy of the EU. That claim was clearly wrong.

Switzerland is one of the biggest exporters in Europe on a per capita basis. It trades with a lot of countries beside the EU. The EU can try to bully it, but it will lose just as much as Switzerland if it imposes tariffs on Switzerland.

Referendums don't mean squat without lawmakers carrying them out. The Swiss referendum was voted on in 2014 yet no legislation has been written to implement the wishes of the people. Switzerland is still legally bound by EU open borders policy and are in fact taking in asylum seekers.

 

[Tom Horn]

When the most popular baby name in England is now "Mohammad", it was time to get the hell out of the EU.

Yes, now they can really address their immigration debacle. The NWO assholes really have done a number on England's immigration policies. They've just about destroyed the country.

Plus, England has the advantage of never switching to the Euro currency.

 

[bripat9643]

If it's so bad to be out of the EU, then why are Switzerland and Norway prospering despite not being members? In fact, Switzerland exports a lot more per person than the UK.

If you want to learn why Brexit was a good move for the UK, watch this video:

Switzerland only receives the benefit of access to the European single market because they have accepted EU open borders policy. The UK will do the same.

Looks like you are mistaken:

Switzerland–European Union relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The relations between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) are framed by a series of bilateral treaties whereby the Swiss Confederation has adopted various provisions of European Union law in order to participate in the Union's single market.

In February 2014, the Swiss voted in a referendum to introduce quotas for all migrants in Switzerland. Such a quota system would, if implemented, violate the agreement between Switzerland and the European Union on the free movement of persons, and so terminate all the various bilateral agreements between Switzerland and the European Union.​

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No I don't think I am mistaken. That referendum has yet to be implemented so it alters nothing that I said. And if it is implemented the EU then has the option of invoking the Guillotine Clause thereby denying the Swiss access to the single market which would adversely affect the Swiss export economy.

You claimed Switzerland was going along with the open borders policy of the EU. That claim was clearly wrong.

Switzerland is one of the biggest exporters in Europe on a per capita basis. It trades with a lot of countries beside the EU. The EU can try to bully it, but it will lose just as much as Switzerland if it imposes tariffs on Switzerland.

Referendums don't mean squat without lawmakers carrying them out. The Swiss referendum was voted on in 2014 yet no legislation has been written to implement the wishes of the people. Switzerland is still legally bound by EU open borders policy and are in fact taking in asylum seekers.

So you're saying the Swiss government is just as lawless and corrupt as the Obama administration? Well, I don't think so. The government is legally bound to comply with results of the referendum. The Swiss government hasn't imported any muzzie savages and has suffered no retaliation from the EU bureaucrats, so what legislation does it need to pass?