Is there a libertarian approach to poverty that *doesn't* come down to "just stop being poor"?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Our Founders were for very very tiny govt and a very moral population. Do you want the Girl Scouts to provide our morality??

I don't know what that means

with the church dead we need a new source of morality don't we??

Government? Enforcing morality? Who is more immoral than government?

well, it is not completely immoral and incompetent. It won WW2 etc etc. In any case you have ducked my question. What will be the source of morality or do you want hip culture to keep spreading?

And government is going to counter the immorality of "hip culture?" That's delusional. Bureaucrats and politicians are no purveyors of morality. If that's your best answer, we're screwed

Well if it were to be the govt it would be a conservative govt because liberals don't support morality. Thus, it would have a good chance to succeed. If not conservative govt, then hip hop culture will keep spreading organically and we really will be screwed.

Interesting, isn't it, that as a libertarian you have no answer and no solution? Keep in mind that religious morality was imposed upon us by Christianity; before that we were Romans who went to the Coliseum to watch people being tortured for an afternoons entertainment

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[Pedro de San Patricio]

Wait, you hate b-boys now? What the actual fuck?

 

[kaz]

I don't know what that means

with the church dead we need a new source of morality don't we??

Government? Enforcing morality? Who is more immoral than government?

well, it is not completely immoral and incompetent. It won WW2 etc etc. In any case you have ducked my question. What will be the source of morality or do you want hip culture to keep spreading?

And government is going to counter the immorality of "hip culture?" That's delusional. Bureaucrats and politicians are no purveyors of morality. If that's your best answer, we're screwed

Well if it were to be the govt it would be a conservative govt because liberals don't support morality. Thus, it would have a good chance to succeed. If not conservative govt, then hip hop culture will keep spreading organically and we really will be screwed.

Interesting, isn't it, that as a libertarian you have no answer and no solution? Keep in mind that religious morality was imposed upon us by Christianity; before that we were Romans who went to the Coliseum to watch people being tortured for an afternoons entertainment

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You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

What's odd is that you think a government solution would be better than government staying out of it, there is no reason to believe government can effectively enforce morality on the people, there is all evidence that it can't.

The government's job is only to protect you from other people removing your choice, it is not legitimately there to inflict your choices on others

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What's odd is that you think a government solution would be better than government staying out of it, there is no reason to believe government can effectively enforce morality on the people, there is all evidence that it can't.

of course you are wrong, morality came from govt and Christianity. Where did you think it came from?????

 

[kaz]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

And without government there no morality? OK, all I can say is kiss your ass goodbye then

 

[kaz]

What's odd is that you think a government solution would be better than government staying out of it, there is no reason to believe government can effectively enforce morality on the people, there is all evidence that it can't.

of course you are wrong, morality came from govt and Christianity. Where did you think it came from?????

Wow, I know a lot of moral people who aren't either

 

[danielpalos]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

And without government there no morality? OK, all I can say is kiss your ass goodbye then

dear, I have asked you 5 times and 5 times you have tried to change the subject. For the 6th time, where do you think morality comes from if not the church and government??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day

because without morality we'd all be dead

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socialism slowly starved 120 million to death so does not qualify as moral.

 

[RKMBrown]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day.

ROFL... typical authoritarian argument: There is no liberty without authority. BULLSHIT. Liberty does not mean the liberty to take liberty away from others, ya fool.

 

[kaz]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

And without government there no morality? OK, all I can say is kiss your ass goodbye then

dear, I have asked you 5 times and 5 times you have tried to change the subject. For the 6th time, where do you think morality comes from if not the church and government??

God.

And I have asked you 5 times and 5 times you have tried to change the subject. in what possible way do you find government to be moral much less have the ability to instill morality in the people?

 

[kaz]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day

because without morality we'd all be dead

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socialism slowly starved 120 million to death so does not qualify as moral.

hey, and you want government to be the source of our morality

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day

because without morality we'd all be dead

.

socialism slowly starved 120 million to death so does not qualify as moral.

hey, and you want government to be the source of our morality

yes , and for the 10th time what do you want to be the source of our morality? You can answer so you are still in kindergarten parroting libertarianism.

 

[danielpalos]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day

because without morality we'd all be dead

.

socialism slowly starved 120 million to death so does not qualify as moral.

dear, it wasn't socialism but Bad management.

 

[danielpalos]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day.

ROFL... typical authoritarian argument: There is no liberty without authority. BULLSHIT. Liberty does not mean the liberty to take liberty away from others, ya fool.

only true political animals understand that social concept

 

[RKMBrown]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day.

ROFL... typical authoritarian argument: There is no liberty without authority. BULLSHIT. Liberty does not mean the liberty to take liberty away from others, ya fool.

only true political animals understand that social concept

You don't need socialism to have liberty, dumb ass.

 

[Andylusion]

What's odd is that you think a government solution would be better than government staying out of it, there is no reason to believe government can effectively enforce morality on the people, there is all evidence that it can't.

of course you are wrong, morality came from govt and Christianity. Where did you think it came from?????

Wow, I know a lot of moral people who aren't either

Irrelevant. Our morals are based on a judeo-christian world view. People who are not Christian, still have their moral values based on that belief system, whether you like it, or admit it, or not. Now we're moving away from that... which is true. And as our morals foundation is removed, our morals slide. Which is why our society is getting worse and worse as time goes on.

 

[RKMBrown]

What's odd is that you think a government solution would be better than government staying out of it, there is no reason to believe government can effectively enforce morality on the people, there is all evidence that it can't.

of course you are wrong, morality came from govt and Christianity. Where did you think it came from?????

Wow, I know a lot of moral people who aren't either

Irrelevant. Our morals are based on a judeo-christian world view. People who are not Christian, still have their moral values based on that belief system, whether you like it, or admit it, or not. Now we're moving away from that... which is true. And as our morals foundation is removed, our morals slide. Which is why our society is getting worse and worse as time goes on.

It's the redistribution of wealth. It makes me want to beat the shit out of some libtards.

 

[danielpalos]

You find it odd that as a libertarian I don't have a solution for how we can enforce morality on the people? Why wouldn't you find that odd?

because without morality we'd all be dead

dear, without the socialism morals and politics, we simply lose Standing as political animals, and revert to mere social animals where might makes right and survival of the fittest is the order of the day.

ROFL... typical authoritarian argument: There is no liberty without authority. BULLSHIT. Liberty does not mean the liberty to take liberty away from others, ya fool.

only true political animals understand that social concept

You don't need socialism to have liberty, dumb ass.

don't be so silly,dear. States recognize the concept of natural rights.