ISIS Beheads Another Brit

[frigidweirdo]

We should have used nukes to turn Irag into glass.

Yeah, because there aren't any consequences to doing this, right?

 

[TooTall]

You go to dangerous places, bad things might happen.

Two British kids went to Thailand and were killed, this guy went to war zone and died. Which is worse?

How many Muslims have the US and British killed in the last 13 years?

Only the ones that were trying to kill them.

And why were they trying to kill invaders in their country I wonder?

What would you do if Muslims turned up armed to the teeth in the US, putting in place a puppet govt and making sure your resources were being sold abroad for a low enough price?

There just wouldn't be enough toilet paper to go around for these keyboard warriors.

What branch of the service did you serve in?

 

[TooTall]

You go to dangerous places, bad things might happen.

Two British kids went to Thailand and were killed, this guy went to war zone and died. Which is worse?

How many Muslims have the US and British killed in the last 13 years?

Only the ones that were trying to kill them.

Seriously, you actually believe that?

Got any videos of American or British troops beheading any muslims?

I think there's video of them peeing on some.

Video Inflames a Delicate Moment for U.S. in Afghanistan
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/w...g-on-taliban-corpses.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Pissing on a corpse that was a man trying to kill you is comparable to cutting off a man's head? Are you making a joke? I'm not laughing and would piss on everyone of them if I could.
However the Marines did possibly commit two crimes. One, they got caught, and two, they didn't beat the dog squeeze out of whoever ratted them out. I say possibly, because they may have done the latter and without being caught.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Pissing on a corpse that was a man trying to kill you is comparable to cutting off a man's head? Are you making a joke? I'm not laughing and would piss on everyone of them if I could.
However the Marines did possibly commit two crimes. One, they got caught, and two, they didn't beat the dog squeeze out of whoever ratted them out. I say possibly, because they may have done the latter and without being caught.

Here's the difference. The US has the most expensive military in the world, the same as the next 8 militarys in terms of expense put together. ISIS have a bunch of guys and some oil money and US weapons they managed to get.

What ISIS are doing is trying to provoke the US into sending in ground troops. They feel this is what they need to be victorious.
The US doesn't need to provoke any more, but they did provoke in 2003 and that was all the WMD stuff and all the other "intelligence" they managed to make up.

 

[TooTall]

Pissing on a corpse that was a man trying to kill you is comparable to cutting off a man's head? Are you making a joke? I'm not laughing and would piss on everyone of them if I could.
However the Marines did possibly commit two crimes. One, they got caught, and two, they didn't beat the dog squeeze out of whoever ratted them out. I say possibly, because they may have done the latter and without being caught.

Here's the difference. The US has the most expensive military in the world, the same as the next 8 militarys in terms of expense put together. ISIS have a bunch of guys and some oil money and US weapons they managed to get.

What ISIS are doing is trying to provoke the US into sending in ground troops. They feel this is what they need to be victorious.
The US doesn't need to provoke any more, but they did provoke in 2003 and that was all the WMD stuff and all the other "intelligence" they managed to make up.

Here are some of the sources of the 'intelligence' the Bush Administration made up.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

 

[frigidweirdo]

Here are some of the sources of the 'intelligence' the Bush Administration made up.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

I like Hilary's. "Intelligence reports show", which suggests a lot. All of this was based on the "intelligence" that was being "gathered" by groups who, well, were making stuff up.

 

[Wildman]

Bombing is symbolic. Nothing more

-Geaux

What a stupid statement. Have you ever had a bomb hit your town or neighborhood?

.............
have you ?

 

[Wildman]

Obama's concerned about beheading.
So concerned he "beheading" to the golf course!

Oh, the village idiot has just arrived.

................
outing yourself ?

 

[TooTall]

Here are some of the sources of the 'intelligence' the Bush Administration made up.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

I like Hilary's. "Intelligence reports show", which suggests a lot. All of this was based on the "intelligence" that was being "gathered" by groups who, well, were making stuff up.

Here are some of the sources of the 'intelligence' the Bush Administration made up.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

I like Hilary's. "Intelligence reports show", which suggests a lot. All of this was based on the "intelligence" that was being "gathered" by groups who, well, were making stuff up.

This:

On October 1, 2002, the CIA delivered a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) assessing the threat represented by Iraq's WMD activities. Three days later, CIA Director George Tenet published an unclassified white paper on the subject of Iraq's WMD capabilities. Over the next two weeks, a joint resolution authorizing the use of force was passed by both houses of Congress.

George Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton and kept on by George Bush. He was responsible for the intel that Congress critters got in their briefings. The British intel agreed for the most part with the CIA. George Bush shouldn't have listened to a bunch of lying Democrats, or they were ALL wrong.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This:

On October 1, 2002, the CIA delivered a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) assessing the threat represented by Iraq's WMD activities. Three days later, CIA Director George Tenet published an unclassified white paper on the subject of Iraq's WMD capabilities. Over the next two weeks, a joint resolution authorizing the use of force was passed by both houses of Congress.

George Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton and kept on by George Bush. He was responsible for the intel that Congress critters got in their briefings. The British intel agreed for the most part with the CIA. George Bush shouldn't have listened to a bunch of lying Democrats, or they were ALL wrong.

You do know that the CIA was making stuff up, it was going out and finding what was wanted to be found, regardless of whether it was real or not? I posted a thread on it, there are two reports from Congress, one in 2004 which states that this happened, and one from much later on, 2009 or some time like that. They basically said the Pentagon was looking for what they could realistically prove, or the evidence was strong enough, the CIA would talk to some guy, if it fit their needs they used it, regardless.

 

[paulitician]

Maybe it's time for the Brits to reconsider their constant meddling in other nations' affairs? In fact, maybe the U.S. should do that too. They are by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. Maybe it's time for a new course.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Maybe it's time for the Brits to reconsider their constant meddling in other nations' affairs? In fact, maybe the U.S. should do that too. They are by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. Maybe it's time for a new course.

HELL YEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[paulitician]

Maybe it's time for the Brits to reconsider their constant meddling in other nations' affairs? In fact, maybe the U.S. should do that too. They are by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. Maybe it's time for a new course.

HELL YEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, the People just need to understand that all the meddling isn't about 'Freedom & Democracy.' It's really about the Ruling-Class Globalist Elites getting richer. It's about seizing nations' Banking Systems and plundering their natural resources. Just look at Libya for example. Who do people think now control its banking system and resources? The answer is, Western Globalist Elites.

The same scenario has been played out in Iraq and Afghanistan. And now they're in the process of doing it in Syria and Ukraine as well. It happens the same way over & over again in many different countries. It is what it is.

 

[EconChick]

ISIS Claims To Have Killed British Hostage Alan Henning
ISIS Claims To Have Killed British Hostage Alan Henning

From HuffPost:
A video released by the Islamic State group on Friday appears to show the beheading of British aid worker Alan Henning, the Associated Press reports. In the clip, the militants threaten to kill another hostage they identify as American Peter Kassig.

Alan Henning, a 47-year-old taxi driver from Eccles, was kidnapped in December after crossing into Syria with an aid convoy. Henning's wife, Barbara, had pleaded with the militants not to kill her husband. "He went to Syria to help his Muslim friends deliver much needed aid," she said in a statement released on Sept. 23.

Catrin Nye, a BBC reporter who had filmed with Henning, described the Brit as "kind and funny."

Obama's bombing really scared ISIS, huh!

Yep.


We'll have to say this to the Obama supporters at least another million times: Either do it right or don't fucking do it at all.

 

[TooTall]

This:

On October 1, 2002, the CIA delivered a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) assessing the threat represented by Iraq's WMD activities. Three days later, CIA Director George Tenet published an unclassified white paper on the subject of Iraq's WMD capabilities. Over the next two weeks, a joint resolution authorizing the use of force was passed by both houses of Congress.

George Tenet was appointed by Bill Clinton and kept on by George Bush. He was responsible for the intel that Congress critters got in their briefings. The British intel agreed for the most part with the CIA. George Bush shouldn't have listened to a bunch of lying Democrats, or they were ALL wrong.

You do know that the CIA was making stuff up, it was going out and finding what was wanted to be found, regardless of whether it was real or not? I posted a thread on it, there are two reports from Congress, one in 2004 which states that this happened, and one from much later on, 2009 or some time like that. They basically said the Pentagon was looking for what they could realistically prove, or the evidence was strong enough, the CIA would talk to some guy, if it fit their needs they used it, regardless.

I realize that Bush and the Congress acted on the intel that was provided by the CIA and others at the time. Do you?

 

[TooTall]

Here are some of the sources of the 'intelligence' the Bush Administration made up.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

I like Hilary's. "Intelligence reports show", which suggests a lot. All of this was based on the "intelligence" that was being "gathered" by groups who, well, were making stuff up.

Why don't you let her know that she is way too stupid to be the next President if she believes the intel from the CIA.

 

[Silhouette]

I want to know everything about this british man who was beheadded. Where will the national memorial service be held? Can we see interviews with his childhood friends, teachers etc? Where do we send the money and gifts for the berieved family. And who are they, specifically?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, the People just need to understand that all the meddling isn't about 'Freedom & Democracy.' It's really about the Ruling-Class Globalist Elites getting richer. It's about seizing nations' Banking Systems and plundering their natural resources. Just look at Libya for example. Who do people think now control its banking system and resources? The answer is, Western Globalist Elites.

The same scenario has been played out in Iraq and Afghanistan. And now they're in the process of doing it in Syria and Ukraine as well. It happens the same way over & over again in many different countries. It is what it is.

I had someone on here complain that Egypt elected the Muslim Brotherhood. Bush helped a coup d'etat against the democratically elected leader Chavez in 2002. Someone said the US couldn't allow this to happen.

The US doesn't give a sheet about democracy, never has and never will.

But then pretending to take the higher moral ground is something the US does a lot.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I realize that Bush and the Congress acted on the intel that was provided by the CIA and others at the time. Do you?

Provided by the CIA who were doing what they were told by Bush.

Cheney to CIA: Find me a link between al-Qaeda and Saddam, doesn't matter what, doesn't matter if it's true.

CIA to random man in Iraq: Does Saddam have links with al-Qaeda?
Man in Iraq to CIA: I don't think so.
CIA to random man in Iraq: Here's $200
Man in Iraq to CIA: Sure he has links to al-Qaeda, clear as day

CIA to Bush and Congress: Saddam has links with al-Qaeda, some man told us.
Bush: Oh right, let's kill Saddam, he has links with al-Qaeda.
Congress: Oh right, let's kill Saddam, he has links with al-Qaeda.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why don't you let her know that she is way too stupid to be the next President if she believes the intel from the CIA.

Well, then no politician would be running for president, and that isn't going to happen, is it?

Oh, to be president you have to be able to do what you're told. It's the one and only requisite for the job.