Israel attacks civilians

[P F Tinmore]

So why can't the Arabs in Gaza walk into Israel?

The military occupation keeps them from doing that.

The military doesn't occupy Gaza.

Everybody in the world except Israel says Gaza is still occupied.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The military occupation keeps them from doing that.

The military doesn't occupy Gaza.

Everybody in the world except Israel says Gaza is still occupied.

Well, it is occupied by your terrorist buddies.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The agreement giving some land to the Arabs and some to the Jews.

Is that the one that gives Palestinian land to foreigners?

Nobody in any country would agree to that. Why are the Palestinians held to a different standard?

It was the one that gave land that the Ottomans lost to Arabs and Jews.

Palestine wasn't a country, why would they have to agree?

The universally recognized right of the permanent inhabitants to self determination without foreign intervention.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is that the one that gives Palestinian land to foreigners?

Nobody in any country would agree to that. Why are the Palestinians held to a different standard?

It was the one that gave land that the Ottomans lost to Arabs and Jews.

Palestine wasn't a country, why would they have to agree?

The universally recognized right of the permanent inhabitants to self determination without foreign intervention.

Even the permanent inhabitants who fled?

 

[P F Tinmore]

It was the one that gave land that the Ottomans lost to Arabs and Jews.

Palestine wasn't a country, why would they have to agree?

The universally recognized right of the permanent inhabitants to self determination without foreign intervention.

Even the permanent inhabitants who fled?

Yep.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The universally recognized right of the permanent inhabitants to self determination without foreign intervention.

Even the permanent inhabitants who fled?

Yep.

I guess not so much.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Even the permanent inhabitants who fled?

Yep.

I guess not so much.

The creation of Israel was a foreign military attack on Palestinian civilians.

It is hard to justify that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yep.

I guess not so much.

The creation of Israel was a foreign military attack on Palestinian civilians.

It is hard to justify that.

No, it was a case of losers losing land.
It happened again whenever Arabs attacked Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I guess not so much.

The creation of Israel was a foreign military attack on Palestinian civilians.

It is hard to justify that.

No, it was a case of losers losing land.
It happened again whenever Arabs attacked Israel.

The Palestinians never lost any land.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The creation of Israel was a foreign military attack on Palestinian civilians.

It is hard to justify that.

No, it was a case of losers losing land.
It happened again whenever Arabs attacked Israel.

The Palestinians never lost any land.

The Arabs did. Again and again.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, it was a case of losers losing land.
It happened again whenever Arabs attacked Israel.

The Palestinians never lost any land.

The Arabs did. Again and again.

Post some documents showing Palestine losing any land.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

The Palestinians never lost any land.

The Arabs did. Again and again.

Post some documents showing Palestine losing any land.

Cue song and dance.
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Palestine never had any land to lose.
You see, there was this big war, we call it World War I.
The Ottomans were on the losing side, they lost a bunch of land.
Some of the land was given to Arabs in what is now Syria.
Some was given to Arabs in what is now Jordan.
Some was given to Jews in what is now Israel.
Etc., etc., etc.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Arabs did. Again and again.

Post some documents showing Palestine losing any land.

Cue song and dance.
3
2
1
...

Palestine never had any land to lose.
You see, there was this big war, we call it World War I.
The Ottomans were on the losing side, they lost a bunch of land.
Some of the land was given to Arabs in what is now Syria.
Some was given to Arabs in what is now Jordan.
Some was given to Jews in what is now Israel.
Etc., etc., etc.

Nobody took possession of Palestine after WWI. It was nobody's to give away.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Post some documents showing Palestine losing any land.

Cue song and dance.
3
2
1
...

Palestine never had any land to lose.
You see, there was this big war, we call it World War I.
The Ottomans were on the losing side, they lost a bunch of land.
Some of the land was given to Arabs in what is now Syria.
Some was given to Arabs in what is now Jordan.
Some was given to Jews in what is now Israel.
Etc., etc., etc.

Nobody took possession of Palestine after WWI. It was nobody's to give away.

Yeah, the British and French took control of a bunch of Ottoman territory.
It was in all the papers. You can look it up yourself, if you'd like.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine never had any land to lose.
You see, there was this big war, we call it World War I.
The Ottomans were on the losing side, they lost a bunch of land.
Some of the land was given to Arabs in what is now Syria.
Some was given to Arabs in what is now Jordan.
Some was given to Jews in what is now Israel.
Etc., etc., etc.

Nobody took possession of Palestine after WWI. It was nobody's to give away.

Yeah, the British and French took control of a bunch of Ottoman territory.
It was in all the papers. You can look it up yourself, if you'd like.

Yes, control not ownership. Mandates were administrative positions.

ARTICLE 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.

Britain violated the League of Nations charter and the rights of the inhabitants.

This does not negate their rights.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nobody took possession of Palestine after WWI. It was nobody's to give away.

Yeah, the British and French took control of a bunch of Ottoman territory.
It was in all the papers. You can look it up yourself, if you'd like.

Yes, control not ownership. Mandates were administrative positions.

ARTICLE 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.

Britain violated the League of Nations charter and the rights of the inhabitants.

This does not negate their rights.

Yes, control not ownership.

And they gave some land to the Arabs and some to the Jews.
I know it makes Arabs and terrorists sad. But that's how it happened.
I guess you can complain to the League of Nations.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yeah, the British and French took control of a bunch of Ottoman territory.
It was in all the papers. You can look it up yourself, if you'd like.

Yes, control not ownership. Mandates were administrative positions.

ARTICLE 22.

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.

Britain violated the League of Nations charter and the rights of the inhabitants.

This does not negate their rights.

Yes, control not ownership.

And they gave some land to the Arabs and some to the Jews.
I know it makes Arabs and terrorists sad. But that's how it happened.
I guess you can complain to the League of Nations.

They didn't give anything to anybody. It was not theirs to give.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, control not ownership. Mandates were administrative positions.



Britain violated the League of Nations charter and the rights of the inhabitants.

This does not negate their rights.

Yes, control not ownership.

And they gave some land to the Arabs and some to the Jews.
I know it makes Arabs and terrorists sad. But that's how it happened.
I guess you can complain to the League of Nations.

They didn't give anything to anybody. It was not theirs to give.

They didn't give land to form Syria? Lebanon? Jordan? Iraq?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yes, control not ownership.

And they gave some land to the Arabs and some to the Jews.
I know it makes Arabs and terrorists sad. But that's how it happened.
I guess you can complain to the League of Nations.

They didn't give anything to anybody. It was not theirs to give.

They didn't give land to form Syria? Lebanon? Jordan? Iraq?

Give it to whom? Didn't the same people live there before and after the war?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They didn't give anything to anybody. It was not theirs to give.

They didn't give land to form Syria? Lebanon? Jordan? Iraq?

Give it to whom? Didn't the same people live there before and after the war?

They didn't give it to anybody?