Israel attacks civilians

[JStone]

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani Scholar, Journalist, Author and Former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence.

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state.
Global Politician - Israel?s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

2,000 Year Old Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rYj_0foJYA]The Dead Sea Scrolls Online - YouTube[/ame]

Google Official Google Blog: From the desert to the web: bringing the Dead Sea Scrolls online

It’s taken 24 centuries, the work of archaeologists, scholars and historians, and the advent of the Internet to make the Dead Sea Scrolls accessible to anyone in the world. Today, as the new year approaches on the Hebrew calendar, we’re celebrating the launch of the Dead Sea Scrolls online; a project of The Israel Museum, Jerusalem, powered by Google technology.

Written between the third and first centuries BCE, the Dead Sea Scrolls include the oldest known biblical manuscripts in existence. In 68 BCE, they were hidden in 11 caves in the Judean desert on the shores of the Dead Sea to protect them from the approaching Roman armies. Since 1965, the scrolls have been on exhibit at the Shrine of the Book at The Israel Museum, Jerusalem. Among other topics, the scrolls offer critical insights into life and religion in ancient Jerusalem, including the birth of Christianity

Now, anyone around the world can view, read and interact with five digitized Dead Sea Scrolls. The high resolution photographs are up to 1,200 megapixels, almost 200 times more than the average consumer camera, so viewers can see even the most minute details in the parchment. For example, zoom in on the Temple Scroll to get a feel for the animal skin it's written on—only one-tenth of a millimeter thick.

 

[Wolverine1984]

"Also, very soon, half the first grade pupils in Israel will be religious children, destined for a life without work, without paying taxes or serving in the army – all this paid for by the taxes of the diminishing number of the non-Orthodox."

The Suicide State » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

Do you see a potential for national suicide here?

destined for a life without work, without paying taxes or serving in the army

That sounds like the "Palestinians".

"AFTER THE founding of Israel, God appeared to David Ben-Gurion and told him: 'You have created a state for my chosen people in my holy land. This merits a great reward. Tell me what you wish, and I will grant it.'

Ben-Gurion answered: 'Almighty God, I wish that every person in Israel shall be wise, honest and a member of the Labor Party.'

“'Dear me,' said God, 'That is too much even for the Almighty. But I decree that every Israeli shall be two of the three...'”

"THIS JOKE was popular in the 1950s. After 1967, another much less funny formula took its place.

It goes like this: many Israelis ask God for their state to be Jewish and democratic, and that it will include the entire country between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. That is too much even for the Almighty.

"So he asks them to choose between a state that is Jewish and democratic but only in part of the country, or a state in all the country that is Jewish but not democratic, or a state in the entire country that is democratic but not Jewish. To which I would add a fourth option: A Jewish and democratic state in the entire country, but only after driving out all the Arabs – some 5.5 million at this point, and growing quickly."

The Suicide State » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

What's your choice?

The number of Arab citizens in Israel is about 1.5 million, so your 'fourth option' has no actual significance, no one is driving Arab citizens anywhere.

 

[georgephillip]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

 

[JStone]

Palestinian Refugees Frozen In Time, Addicted To Pity'

The Arab countries love the Palestinians, praise them and pray for them. They just don’t want them moving permanently into their neighbourhoods’

Refugees? Canadians, even if their families have lived here for centuries, know something about refugees. We know Hungarians, we know Vietnamese, we know many others. We admire their energy and their accomplishments. Observing them can be a bracing lesson in human tenacity under adverse circumstances.

But that pattern doesn’t cover Palestinian refugees. They are a special case. For many reasons, various populations across the planet are displaced; only the Palestinians cling to their “refugee” status decade after decade. They present themselves as helpless victims of Israeli aggression. They await rescue — as they have been awaiting it for three generations, since Israel was founded in 1948. Members of other history-battered groups choose to live by an urgent ethic: Get up, get going, make a new life. Palestinians have a different approach: Sit down, wait, stay angry till the world provides for you.

Arab governments “are rich enough to have economically solved the Palestinian refugee problem decades ago.” The 5,000 or so members of the Saudi royal family could probably handle it by themselves

Why haven’t they done so? They much prefer to let Palestinians remain poor. Every wretched, ill-fed and ill-housed Palestinian can be used as a living rebuke to Israel.

The Palestinians are the only people who have their own private section of the UN, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). It defines “refugee” as someone who lived in Palestine between June, 1946, and May, 1948, and “lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict.” The definition includes all their descendants. Entirely credible numbers don’t exist, but UNRWA believes there were 711,000 such refugees in 1948, and now more than 4.7-million.

The Arab countries love the Palestinians, praise them and pray for them. They just don’t want them moving permanently into their neighbourhoods. The Arab League advises Arab states to deny citizenship to Palestinians, “to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland.” They pretend it’s a favour. It also means Arabs can hire Palestinian workers when they need them and send them home when the economy sags.

The treatment of the Palestinians has become a major crime of omission committed by the rich Arabs against the poor in collusion with the UN. It has created a permanent underclass, living on meagre public assistance, growing more numerous every day but never put in a position where they can create a healthy, productive community. They are permanent grudge-bearers, who teach their children to yearn for a lost paradise.

The enemies of Israel have taught the world to pity the Palestinians and grant them an almost sacred position among the victims of colonialism. They deserve pity, of course, but pity for what their fellow Arabs have done to them.

Robert Fulford: Palestinian refugees frozen in time, addicted to pity | Full Comment | National Post

Is it racist to criticize the Palestinians as the world's most tiresome crybabies with a bogus cause and a plight that's entirely self-inflicted? The Palestinian cause is a lie. They could have had peace ten times over if they wanted it, but, they don't want peace, they want victory and they won't be happy until Israel is wiped from the map....driven by crude, irrational, religious hatred.

This is not about territory and it's certainly isn't about justice or human rights because Arab societies don't know the meaning of those words.It's about Jew-hatred as mandated by the Koran and as preached in the mosques and taught to the children in Arab countries day in and day out generation after poisoned generation.

We need to do the Arabs a huge favor and tell them the truth they so badly need to hear, that their hatred is the cause of their misery. They've become prisoners of it. It has come to define their very identity. And, until they can find a way to remove this ugly stain from their hearts they will always be chained to it and they and their children will never be free, Arab spring or no Arab spring.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1N1zhUm84w]The great Palestinian lie - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Gaza during 2011, Al-Mizan center added 467 Palestinians, including 120 children and 35 women, were also wounded during Israeli military attacks on the densely-populated enclave

If only that densely-populated enclave would stop firing rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians.....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

They should move to Jordan or Saudi Arabia.

 

[JStone]

Gaza during 2011, Al-Mizan center added 467 Palestinians, including 120 children and 35 women, were also wounded during Israeli military attacks on the densely-populated enclave

If only that densely-populated enclave would stop firing rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians.....

What's a "palestinian"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Gaza during 2011, Al-Mizan center added 467 Palestinians, including 120 children and 35 women, were also wounded during Israeli military attacks on the densely-populated enclave

If only that densely-populated enclave would stop firing rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians.....

What's a "palestinian"?








[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJjm5K07V0]Who are the Palestinians? - YouTube[/ame]

An especially whiny Arab.

 

[JStone]

Gaza during 2011, Al-Mizan center added 467 Palestinians, including 120 children and 35 women, were also wounded during Israeli military attacks on the densely-populated enclave

If only that densely-populated enclave would stop firing rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians.....

What's a "palestinian"?








[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJjm5K07V0]Who are the Palestinians? - YouTube[/ame]

An especially whiny Arab.

"Palestinians": Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death

 

[georgephillip]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

They should move to Jordan or Saudi Arabia.

Better yet, why not repatriate the 500,000 racist Israeli settlers from the occupied territories to Poland or Russia? (or Chicago)

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

They should move to Jordan or Saudi Arabia.

Better yet, why not repatriate the 500,000 racist Israeli settlers from the occupied territories to Poland or Russia? (or Chicago)

Too many Arab countries already.
My idea is better.

 

[Wolverine1984]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

What's that have to do with anything ?
if 'god' gave his 'chosen' people all the land , he would make sure that all the people inhabiting the land would be happy and provided for , he would make fairies and unicorns fly around the land gifting the people with smiles and happiness.

Sadly ,god is as real as friaries or unicorns ,meanwhile in reality Israel is not all the land between the sea and the Jordan river , the 1.5 million Arabs who are citizens don't live under anyone's jackboot and enjoy rights that their fellow Arabs in the neighboring countries can only dream about.

There is no connection between your statement and reality.

 

[georgephillip]

Are the Arab inhabitants of Area C living under Israeli Jackboots?
Four million Arabs between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River live under Israeli occupation with no fairies or unicorns required. What role do those Arabs play in a Jewish/democratic state?

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

What's that have to do with anything ?
if 'god' gave his 'chosen' people all the land , he would make sure that all the people inhabiting the land would be happy and provided for , he would make fairies and unicorns fly around the land gifting the people with smiles and happiness.

Sadly ,god is as real as friaries or unicorns ,meanwhile in reality Israel is not all the land between the sea and the Jordan river , the 1.5 million Arabs who are citizens don't live under anyone's jackboot and enjoy rights that their fellow Arabs in the neighboring countries can only dream about.

There is no connection between your statement and reality.

When Israel was created inside Palestine, what was the Palestinian vote count?

 

[P F Tinmore]

GAZA, (PIC)-- Palestinian parents and their two kids were wounded at dawn Sunday in Gaza city when their house were bombed in an Israeli aerial attack.

Local sources told the PIC reporter that an Israeli warplane fired missiles directly at a civilian house in Al-Tufah neighborhood in Gaza city.

The attack on the house, according to a medical source, led to the injury of Ahmed Al-Zaharna, a father of two little children, and his wife. The victimized family was taken to Al-Shifa hospital for treatment.

A similar attack also targeted last night a foundry in the city injuring two civilians.

Parents and their kids in hospital after Israeli air raid on their house

 

[Ropey]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

What's that have to do with anything ?
if 'god' gave his 'chosen' people all the land , he would make sure that all the people inhabiting the land would be happy and provided for , he would make fairies and unicorns fly around the land gifting the people with smiles and happiness.

Sadly ,god is as real as friaries or unicorns ,meanwhile in reality Israel is not all the land between the sea and the Jordan river , the 1.5 million Arabs who are citizens don't live under anyone's jackboot and enjoy rights that their fellow Arabs in the neighboring countries can only dream about.

There is no connection between your statement and reality.

Indeed.

All the land George says.

Yep, all that land. That red spot.

Them damned chosen people.

 

[georgephillip]

How many Arabs are currently living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
If god gave the all the land to his "chosen" people, what's left for 5.5 million Arabs "living" under Jewish jackboots?

What's that have to do with anything ?
if 'god' gave his 'chosen' people all the land , he would make sure that all the people inhabiting the land would be happy and provided for , he would make fairies and unicorns fly around the land gifting the people with smiles and happiness.

Sadly ,god is as real as friaries or unicorns ,meanwhile in reality Israel is not all the land between the sea and the Jordan river , the 1.5 million Arabs who are citizens don't live under anyone's jackboot and enjoy rights that their fellow Arabs in the neighboring countries can only dream about.

There is no connection between your statement and reality.

When Israel was created inside Palestine, what was the Palestinian vote count?

Why doesn't the Jewish State classify its Arab citizens as a national minority group instead of by what they are not, i.e, non-Jews? There were 900,000 Arabs inhabiting the land that became Israel in 1948. 86% of this population was displaced and expelled from the Jewish state. Arabs who remained in Israel found they had become a minority within a Jewish state imposed by UN mandate and force of arms. The fact that Arabs in neighboring states also lived under US puppets doesn't negate the crimes inflicted upon Palestinians by Jewish jackboots.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What's that have to do with anything ?
if 'god' gave his 'chosen' people all the land , he would make sure that all the people inhabiting the land would be happy and provided for , he would make fairies and unicorns fly around the land gifting the people with smiles and happiness.

Sadly ,god is as real as friaries or unicorns ,meanwhile in reality Israel is not all the land between the sea and the Jordan river , the 1.5 million Arabs who are citizens don't live under anyone's jackboot and enjoy rights that their fellow Arabs in the neighboring countries can only dream about.

There is no connection between your statement and reality.

When Israel was created inside Palestine, what was the Palestinian vote count?

Why doesn't the Jewish State classify its Arab citizens as a national minority group instead of by what they are not, i.e, non-Jews? There were 900,000 Arabs inhabiting the land that became Israel in 1948. 86% of this population was displaced and expelled from the Jewish state. Arabs who remained in Israel found they had become a minority within a Jewish state imposed by UN mandate and force of arms. The fact that Arabs in neighboring states also lived under US puppets doesn't negate the crimes inflicted upon Palestinians by Jewish jackboots.

...a Jewish state imposed by UN mandate...

Actually there was no UN mandate. Resolution 181 required the approval of the Palestinians in order to be implemented. The Palestinians rejected the offer so the UN Security Council did not implement it. Resolution 181 was a dead issue.

 

[MJB12741]

Israel is a land of antiquity! And the first & only Palestinians WERE JEWS! Fact is there were no Muslims, let alone Muslim Palestinians until after the 7th century AD.

The re-establishment of Israel in 1948 was done legally & morally by a vote of the UN whereas all Muslims lands are stolen lands from the indigenous populations conquered by force.

P F Tinmore;2229292]Nothing new here. Israel was created by attacking civilians and they continue today.[/QUOTE]

 

[Wolverine1984]

What's that have to do with anything ?
if 'god' gave his 'chosen' people all the land , he would make sure that all the people inhabiting the land would be happy and provided for , he would make fairies and unicorns fly around the land gifting the people with smiles and happiness.

Sadly ,god is as real as friaries or unicorns ,meanwhile in reality Israel is not all the land between the sea and the Jordan river , the 1.5 million Arabs who are citizens don't live under anyone's jackboot and enjoy rights that their fellow Arabs in the neighboring countries can only dream about.

There is no connection between your statement and reality.

When Israel was created inside Palestine, what was the Palestinian vote count?

Why doesn't the Jewish State classify its Arab citizens as a national minority group instead of by what they are not, i.e, non-Jews? There were 900,000 Arabs inhabiting the land that became Israel in 1948. 86% of this population was displaced and expelled from the Jewish state. Arabs who remained in Israel found they had become a minority within a Jewish state imposed by UN mandate and force of arms. The fact that Arabs in neighboring states also lived under US puppets doesn't negate the crimes inflicted upon Palestinians by Jewish jackboots.

Why doesn't the Jewish State classify its Arab citizens as a national minority group instead of by what they are not, i.e, non-Jews?

What are you talking about ? And what does it matter ?

There were 900,000 Arabs inhabiting the land that became Israel in 1948. 86% of this population was displaced and expelled from the Jewish state.

You conveniently leave out the fact that in 1948 there was a war between Israel in those Arabs you speak of (And the Arabs in the surrounding countries).
Many of the Arabs fled because they thought the neighboring countries will crush Israel and they will be able to return.

Arabs who remained in Israel found they had become a minority within a Jewish state imposed by UN mandate and force of arms.

Those poor Arabs who are a minority in Israel , my heart goes to them , how difficult it must be to live as a citizen of a developed county with health care and rights that no Arabs in the surrounding area have. This is truly sad.

imposed by UN mandate and force of arms

Indeed it was Israel who declared war on Syria,Lebanon,Jordan,and Egypt.
Wait what ? Israel didn't declare war on those countries and they actually declared war on Israel ... I thought Israel was imposed by force of arms ,how could that be ?