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Yep, we do indeed give aid to Israel. We also give money and aid to many other countries, including those who preach against both Israel and the USA. We give more money and aid away than anyone else in the world. So what?
Sharon is from the Likud party. They represent precisely the Zionist extremists that I have a problem with. It is the same party that insists on building and maintaining the settlements in Palestenian territories that the UN has already declared illegal, and they represent what remains of the original drive to create a Jewish state at the expense of a few hundred thousand Palestinians. Here is an exerpt and link to an excellent site, which I hope you will take the time to read through. It gives precisely the argument that I would be inclined to agree with: that both sides have commited horrible atrocities, but that all of the violence stems from the initial creation of the Jewish state for which the palestenians do have a real grievance. (Once again, we are talking about only 50 years, here, not ancient history. There is no statute of limitations for murder, nor do I think there should be one in this case. As a side note, the Jews are still persuing and receiving reparations for the crimes commited against them in WWII, as is only just connsidering the great many individuals and institutions whose fortunes grew exponentially thanks to the money they stole from the Jews.)Israel is a fundamentalist regime? Are you sure? How so?
Yes, I know it is part of a movement which the US does not in any way, shape, or form accept or condone It is part of the same movement which produced Garzon's attempt to prosecute Pinochet for war crimes here in Spain, and it is a movement which I think is a good idea, just as I believe (and the US agrees) that war trials are justified, and have produced the bringing to justice of Nazi criminals and of ex-Yogoslav president Milocevic. It seems a contradiction to me that those criminals which are apprehended in the process of conducting a war may be tried in a court of law, but those crimes against humanity which do not produce a war go un punished. Of course, in order to sanction an international court, the US must be willing to recognize that they too may be tried for crimes against humanity. But the US seems to believe, in a double standard which is typical, that justice is a one way street, and that they themselves are justified in commiting what ever atrocity in support of their own agenda, even as they prosecute crimes of an international order in which they themselves may be construed as the primary victim.Convicted of War Crimes? You're obviously referring to to that comedy in Belgium. You know, the one that the USA doesn't recognize? They can convict away, it's not internationally recognized & therefore doesn't hold water.
It sure did, thanks! I enjoy history, and am always up to learn more about it.
The problem here is that after the holocaust during WWII it was decided to set up a Jewish homeland. Where should that be? Probably where they came from, orginally.
I think you should research a bit about how the Middle East was set up by the British and French in the early 1900s. Lawrence of Arabia was there at the time. Borders were drawn up by Europeans, not by the Arabs.
You're correct in that some Arabs were displaced to make way for the Jews; however the Jews had been there as well for thousands of years. Who was there first? Does it really matter today?
Could you provide me with a reliable source which details exactly how our international aid money gets spent and by whom?
Originally posted by gop_jeff
Man... take a weekend off from the boards and you totally fall behind!
NT, you probably covered a lot of the points I would have made. One thing, however, that I have seen in these posts is the claim that the Jewish settlers forced hundreds of thousands of Palestains from their homes. In fact, in the days and weeks before Israel was created as a nation, the surrounding countries of Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc. decided that they would invade the newborn nation and wipe the Jews off the map altogether. So they told the Palestinians to temporarily move out of the ways of the invading armies, and that whenever the war against Israel was over, they could move back. Obviously, that war (and those that followed) did not go well at all for the Arabs, so there were suddenly hundreds of thousands of refugees.
Originally posted by TRIVILINA68
PLEASE PRAY FOR THE PALESTINE PEOPLE , HOW MUCH MORE SUFFERING AND PAIN THEY HAVE TO SUFFER. IT IS SO SAD TO SEE ALL THE CRIME THAT ISRAEL IS DOING AND THE USA DOES NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I AM ASKING FOR PRAYERS AND TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. EVERYONE LIES ABOUT THE PROBLEM BETWEEN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL. THEY DONT ADMIT THAT ISRAEL HAS THE TOTAL CONTROL , KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES . STOP THE CRIME , USA OPEN YOUR EYES IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT YOU ALL KNOW THE TRUTH , ISRAEL CRIMINALS STOP THE ABUSE. GOD WILL PUNISH YOU.