Israel tells the US to Go Fxxx Itself, again.

[Kalam]

Isn't it time for your hijacking commercial airlines 101 class?

Really, you should quit while you aren't too far behind.

 

[CMike]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Vf8MbbQRM]YouTube - Jeff Dunham - Achmed the dead terrorist - Training Camp[/ame]

 

[CMike]

Isn't it time for your hijacking commercial airlines 101 class?

Really, you should quit while you aren't too far behind.

I never realized that you are so famous

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLZQC2Ijfak&feature=fvw]YouTube - A terrifying terrorist[/ame]

 

[Kalam]

Couldn't come up with anything on your own?

I hope you don't start stealing jokes like your boys in Israel steal land.

 

[CMike]

I never realized you were so famous before Achmed

 

[al Haq]

1. Apparently, ignoring and/or tolerating Israel's violations no longer serves the U.S.'s purposes.

2. Despite its claims, Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem or any of the occupied territory.

A. You mean to say, it doesent serve Obama's Agenda. Thank god for Congress. But this statement only proves the hypocricy of the matter - the world will ignore any violations of "international law" by any nations - except Israel.

B. Israel does not need anybody's permission to procalaim its capital. but again, hypocracy rears its ugly head - where was the talk of sovereignty over jerusalem pre-1967?

You can try to place the blame squarely on Obama. But many in Washington, Europe, etc. (even in Israel!) have come to the same conclusion - Israel's continued illegal behavior is a threat to the region, and the world.

Certainly, Israel's lobby holds great influence on Congress. However, AIPAC represents only the far right-wing policies of the Israeli government - it does not represent wide-spread opinion in Israel.

In fact, according to a recent poll in Israel taken March 16-17 2010 (taken after the recent dispute over the settlements) a “sweeping majority of Israelis” see Obama’s treatment of Israel as “friendly and fair.” 56% said they don’t believe Obama is anti-Semitic or seeking to bring down the Netanyahu government. A much smaller percentage, 27%, thought Obama is anti-Semitic.

Linkie:
Haaretz poll: 27% of Israelis think Obama is anti-Semitic - Haaretz - Israel News

Regarding Congress -

Despite the Lobby's influence on Congress, others in powerful positions in the U.S. government, military, etc. are not so dependent on AIPAC for their jobs. The testimony of Gen. Petraeus is on record. Most heads of state tend to place some value on the counsel of their top military commanders. And the President retains executive powers that Congress does not control.

Regarding international law and the implied "right" to ignore it -

As a condition for its admission to the United Nations Organization, Israel formally agreed to accept U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) 1947 (Partition/Jerusalem trusteeship) and U.N. General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) 1948 (Palestinian right of return.) Since then, Israel has repudiated both resolutions, thus violating its own conditions for admission to the U.N.

Due to decades of being shielded from international repercussions by the U.S., Israel has begun to think that such laws may be ignored.

Israel seems to have the idea that even if the rest of the world says what it‘s doing is illegal, Israel can just pass a law in its own courts that permits the behavior, and then that's the end of the matter.

Doesn’t work that way.

What actually happens is (like it or not) - the most powerful countries in the world decide whether or not to ignore a country's violations of international law.

Certainly many countries' violations are ignored. When addressed, they are always through international diplomacy and the possibility of consequences against the offending state (severing of diplomatic ties, economic sanctions, military action, etc.)

The U.S. based its invasion of Iraq on violations of international law, citing U.N. resolution 1441 as well as 678 and 687. Threats of action against Iran are also based on allegations of violations of international law.

The U.S. has played the role of Israel's protector for decades. Since 1982, the U.S. has vetoed more than 30 U.N. Security Council resolutions critical of Israel (more than the total number of vetoes cast by all the other security members.)

You should remember that the U.S. also shielded South Africa from international sanctions for many years - from 1948 until the late 70s/early 80s, and did not pass trade sanctions until the 1980s.

Like Israel, South Africa resisted all criticism. It behaved much as Israel has behaved - imposing large-scale curfews, conducting mass arrests and detainments of political opposition members, giving police and military forces unprecedented power, even developing nuclear weapons (with Israel’s assistance.)

However, once the U.S. stopped protecting South Africa, the abomination of Apartheid came to an end. International action actually saved South Africa from itself.

Regarding its capital - Israel is free to proclaim its capital anywhere inside its internationally recognized borders. However, it does not have recognized sovereignty over occupied territory, which includes Jerusalem. The Israeli government can continue lying to itself, or face reality - the status of Jerusalem is a matter for final negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

 

[CMike]

Not only did the palestinians in judea and samaria celebrate when America got attacked on September 11, 2001, the PA kidnapped a journalist who shot video of it, and threatened his life if he released.

And this is who her bitchiness is favoring over a trust ally of the US.

Hillary is such a twat.

 

[Shogun]

scared you, didn't I, christian?

 

[CMike]

It's time for your nap.

 

[The Rabbi]

1. Apparently, ignoring and/or tolerating Israel's violations no longer serves the U.S.'s purposes.

2. Despite its claims, Israel does not have sovereignty over Jerusalem or any of the occupied territory.

A. You mean to say, it doesent serve Obama's Agenda. Thank god for Congress. But this statement only proves the hypocricy of the matter - the world will ignore any violations of "international law" by any nations - except Israel.

B. Israel does not need anybody's permission to procalaim its capital. but again, hypocracy rears its ugly head - where was the talk of sovereignty over jerusalem pre-1967?

You can try to place the blame squarely on Obama. But many in Washington, Europe, etc. (even in Israel!) have come to the same conclusion - Israel's continued illegal behavior is a threat to the region, and the world.

How is building an apartment complex in your capital a threat to peace in the region? It isn't like they're lobbing missiles into civilian areas. Now that would be a threat to peace.

 

[Shogun]

don't get all dateline predator on me, dude. I realize that tagging young ass comes naturally to those who subscribe to your faith but.. um...

 

[al Haq]

Not only did the palestinians in judea and samaria celebrate when America got attacked on September 11, 2001, the PA kidnapped a journalist who shot video of it, and threatened his life if he released.

And this is who her bitchiness is favoring over a trust ally of the US.

Hillary is such a twat.

Dancing Israelis

 

[Shogun]

A. You mean to say, it doesent serve Obama's Agenda. Thank god for Congress. But this statement only proves the hypocricy of the matter - the world will ignore any violations of "international law" by any nations - except Israel.

B. Israel does not need anybody's permission to procalaim its capital. but again, hypocracy rears its ugly head - where was the talk of sovereignty over jerusalem pre-1967?

You can try to place the blame squarely on Obama. But many in Washington, Europe, etc. (even in Israel!) have come to the same conclusion - Israel's continued illegal behavior is a threat to the region, and the world.

How is building an apartment complex in your capital a threat to peace in the region? It isn't like they're lobbing missiles into civilian areas. Now that would be a threat to peace.

you are purposefully usurping an unwanted ethnicity for the sake of a favored ethnicity. The whole "what did I do?!?" act is hilarious though.

 

[al Haq]

How is building an apartment complex in your capital a threat to peace in the region? It isn't like they're lobbing missiles into civilian areas. Now that would be a threat to peace.

Again - Israel may build all the apartments it wants in its capital. It's the building in occupied Jerusalem that is the problem.

 

[CMike]

What is even worse than the palestinians celebrating the 911 attack on America, the PA threatened the life of the reporters and intimidated them into not showing the videos.

Where was the international outrage?

israelinsider: diplomacy: Thousands of Palestinians again celebrate attacks, videotape suppressed

...thousands of Palestinians again paraded through cities in the West Bank and Gaza, celebrating the attacks on the United States. Some Palestinian policeman reportedly joined the celebrations, while other Palestinian security officials confiscated videotape shot by journalists at the rally.
International news agencies continue to refrain from broadcasting video footage showing Palestinians, including members of Palestinian security forces, celebrating after this week's terrorist attacks in the United States due to severe threats and warnings issued by Palestinian Authority officials and representatives.

The Associated Press (AP) filed an official complaint with the Palestinian Authority after a freelance cameraman who filmed Palestinians celebrating the terror was threatened.

According to the AP, a videographer on assignment for Associated Press Television News, was "summoned to a Palestinian Authority security office and told that the material must not be aired." Tanzim militia members reportedly called and warned the freelancer that he would be held responsible if the footage was shown and made what he interpreted as threats on his life.

Arafat aide Ahmed Abdel Rahman reportedly told AP representatives in Jerusalem that the Palestinian Authority "cannot guarantee the life" of the cameraman if the footage was broadcast.

AP and Reuters have reported on Palestinian celebrations in West Bank cities but have limited their coverage to a small number of still pictures and videotape of rallies in East Jerusalem and Lebanon, reportedly due to the threats they have received.

AP ackowledges having the videotape, but refuses to release it, believing it would endanger its phographer's life. After trying unsuccessfully to persuaded AP to release the tape, Israeli government spokesman Raanan Gissin blasted the censorship, saying it showed "journalism in Service of terrorism" and "journalism surrendering to terrorism."

Usually unflappable Palestinian politician Hanan Ashrawi repeated that only a small unrepresentative minority were singing and dancing, but she did not deny that tapes were suppressed. "We are living in a situation of crisis," she said, "and I do not need to justify anything."

Motorists honk horns and policemen fire into the air
A Reuters report filed in Beirut stated: "Jubilant Palestinians took to the streets of refugee camps of Lebanon and the West Bank, waving Palestinian flags and distributing sweets to celebrate the attacks on major U.S. landmarks and government offices."

The same report noted: "In Nablus, motorists honked their horns and gunmen fired into the air from assault rifles to cheer on the attacks which unfolded in the space of a few hours and stunned people around the globe."

The AP film that was not aired reportedly shows "Palestinian policemen celebrating and shooting into the air, in addition to civilians dancing," according to senior Israeli sources. The film was reportedly shot in Nablus, where more than 3,000 demonstrators took to the streets, and in the Balata refugee camp.

Palestinians forcibly confined foreign journalists to a Nablus hotel Tuesday night, guarded by armed Palestinians while festivities took place in the streets outside, according to a Jerusalem Post report.


Israel Television correspondent Oded Granot reported last night that Tanzim militiamen had kidnapped a Palestinian cameraman who shot a report for a major news agency showing Palestinians in Ramallah celebrating the attacks against the United States. This film reportedly includes footage of Palestinian Police firing their assault rifles in the air in celebration as hundreds cheer. This morning the Tanzim reportedly released the cameraman.

Ha'aretz reported that mourners at the funerals of nine Palestinians killed early Wednesday morning in IDF military operations in Jenin cheered in celebration of the terror attacks in the United States.

Maariv reported this morning that Arab students at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem held a party Tuesday night celebrating the attacks and giving out candy to participants. University officials closed the dormitory lounge in which the party was held shortly afterwards, Maariv added.

 

[CMike]

Not only did the palestinians in judea and samaria celebrate when America got attacked on September 11, 2001, the PA kidnapped a journalist who shot video of it, and threatened his life if he released.

And this is who her bitchiness is favoring over a trust ally of the US.

Hillary is such a twat.

Dancing Israelis

what are you trying to show?

 

[Shogun]

oh the ISRAEL INSIDER! yea! excellent.

 

[CMike]

A DAY OF TERROR - THE ISRAELIS - A DAY OF TERROR - THE ISRAELIS - Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer - NYTimes.com

in Nablus, big crowds of Palestinians marched in celebration, chanting ''Beloved bin Laden, strike Tel Aviv!'' Some waved the flag of the terrorist organization Hamas. ''Let the Americans know the meaning of death,'' one marcher said.

Some Palestinians expressed the hope that the assault would prompt the United States to change its policies toward the Mideast conflict -- though pictures of Palestinians rejoicing were not likely to create sympathy for their cause.

...The Palestinian Authority tried to prevent pictures from being taken of the marchers celebrating in Nablus, evidently very wary of the potential effect on world opinion.

...In the streets of East Jerusalem, some drivers honked their horns in triumph, and Suleiman Qassem, 20, a plumber, passed out sweets to passerby when he heard the news. ''The Americans give the Israelis Apache helicopters to bomb our houses,'' he said. ''They give them diplomatic support and intelligence help on how to kill us.''

 

[CMike]

Reactions to the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reports and images of Palestinians from East Jerusalem, Nablus, and Lebanon taking to the streets in celebration, were broadcast around the world.[23] with many newspapers, magazines, Web sites and wire services running photographs.[26][27]

...In an attempt to quash further reporting, Ahmed Abdel Rahman, Arafat's Cabinet secretary, said the Palestinian Authority could not "guarantee the life" of an Associated Press (AP) cameraman if footage he filmed of post-9/11 celebrations in Nablus was broadcast. Rahman's statement prompted a formal protest from the AP bureau chief, Dan Perry

 

[CMike]

And Hillary The Bitch doesn't know the difference between an enemy and a friend of the US.

FOXNews.com - Palestinian Officials Quash Pictures of Arab Celebrations - U.S. & World

Palestinian Officials Quash Pictures of Arab Celebrations

The Palestinian Authority has warned journalists they might be in danger if they continue to use images of Arabs celebrating Tuesday�s terrorist attacks.

PA officials allegedly have threatened journalists who continue to show Palestinians rejoicing and dancing at the news of the devastation caused by hijacked jets in New York City, Washington and Pennsylvania.

The Foreign Press Association of Israel said the PA sent armed police to block camera crews from photographing Tuesday�s rally in the West Bank town of Nablus -- where thousands filled the streets to celebrate.

In addition, PA officials have reportedly phoned TV stations and other media to caution them their safety would be in jeopardy if they aired the segments.

Officially, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat condemned the hijackings that demolished the World Trade towers in New York, damaged the Pentagon in Washington and claimed thousands of victims. Arafat publicly criticized Tuesday�s acts of terrorism soon after word of the Arab celebrations leaked.

The images of exuberant, cheering Palestinians � some of them children and teens � when they heard news of the tragedies angered and horrified people worldwide.
...As early as Tuesday afternoon, TV stations everywhere were broadcasting footage of revelers in the streets of Jerusalem and Nablus, in refugee camps and in coffee shops. Some joyously fired rifles in the air, laughed, handed out sodas and candy and made signs of victory with their fingers.

Most American networks, including Fox News Channel, aired the images.
In addition, many newspapers, magazines, Web sites and wire services ran photographs of the festivities.

The Associated Press would not confirm reports that it had stopped broadcasting film of the celebrations. "I have nothing to say about this matter at this time," AP Israel Bureau Chief Dan Perry told The Jerusalem Post.

But one foreign correspondent told the Post that AP producers had been threatened by PA Cabinet Secretary Abdel Ahmed Rahman, who told them their safety couldn�t be guaranteed if they insisted on broadcasting the images.
Characterizing the threats against such footage and photos as "censorship," the Foreign Press Association of Israel released a statement expressing its "deep concern over the harassment of journalists by the Palestinian Authority."

"We strongly condemn the direct threats made against local videographers by local militia members and the attitude of Palestinian officials who made no effort to counter the threats, control the situation or guarantee the safety of the journalists and the freedom of the press," the FPA said.