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Israel and Russia:
"Six months ago, after Vladimir Putin annexed part of Ukraine, President Obama authorized sanctions against Russia. 'The basic principles that govern relations between nations in Europe and around the world must be upheld in the 21st century,' said Obama. 'That includes respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity—the notion that nations do not simply redraw borders or make decisions at the expense of their neighbors simply because they are larger or more powerful.'
"The United States has defended that principle in Ukraine and Iraq: You can’t use force to grab territory or change borders.
"But Israel, a U.S. ally, continues to violate the rule.
"This weekend, Israel claimed yet more Palestinian territory: nearly 1,000 acres, its biggest land grab in 30 years."
Israel rsquo s illegal land grab in West Bank The Israeli rationale is no different than Vladimir Putin rsquo s in Ukraine.
"The Hamas charter, of course, does more than just reject Israel as a sovereign political entity. It’s a vile document that echoes some of the worst anti-Semitic tropes of the modern era.
"But on the central question of one side denying the other’s legitimacy — it’s hard to ignore the symmetry between Likud – the party of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu – and Hamas."
The Hateful Likud Charter Calls for Destruction of Any Palestinian State Informed Comment
I think there is way too much craziness going on in the Middle East. America too. Face it, we're all screwed if some sane people don't start getting involved. Too many bombs going off. I don't want Israel getting nuked either.
The U.S. needs to retrieve their equipment from the M.E. because it's being not being used for its intended purpose...and kill the terrorists. But the word terrorist doesn't include "foe" just because a government says so.
Well I would think the word terrorists means those who have been running around killing the Yazidis, the Christians and the Muslims of sects that they don't like. And I think the civilized world would consider them foes of innocent human beings who are being murdered..
I think there is way too much craziness going on in the Middle East. America too. Face it, we're all screwed if some sane people don't start getting involved. Too many bombs going off. I don't want Israel getting nuked either.
The U.S. needs to retrieve their equipment from the M.E. because it's being not being used for its intended purpose...and kill the terrorists. But the word terrorist doesn't include "foe" just because a government says so.
You know it George, it does seem like Israel would like to see complete chaos in the Middle East to try to distract from their atrocities in Gaza/West Bank. You know, like throwing up a smoke screen to hide behind. That wall is outrageously tall and thick. Makes you wonder what other dirty things they're trying to hide over there behind the wall? Terrorist training camps? You never can tell.You're wasting key strokes on Rosie; she's looking for ways to make that illegal WALL IS proof:Actually, I've read up on a lot of these topics and find that georgephillip's posts are completely legit/accurate. What does that say about YOU? Answer: You just don't like the facts. You want to change them and insult people in the process. Grow up.Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Just out of curiosity can you explain why Israel continues to violate International Law with these illegal settlements, pretending no one will notice? Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention PROHIBITS POPULATION TRANSFERS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY. Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
No way around it. Israel is violating (another) International Law. Shameful. Now retreat to your own lands, thieves. Oh, and knock down your illegal WALL while you're at it.
"The Islamic State’s primary mission is to build a strong foundation in what it refers to as the Abode of Islam. The plan: Sweep away Jordan and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Jordan is the next target after consolidating gains in Iraq and Syria, because Jordan’s territory offers access to the northern tribes of Saudi Arabia.
"From there, its dreams are wildly ambitious: Lead a campaign that will range fromJerusalem all the way to the Iberian peninsula in order to recapture the caliphate of Córdoba and restore Muslim rule which ended in 1492. The IS, according to Israeli political and military sources, is recruiting on the West Bank and in Gaza to launch attacks on Israel."
The Islamic State is reshuffling balance of power in Middle East Al Jazeera America
I went a little off topic so I think Israel is probably conducting trade deals with Russia. I bet a lot of bullets/ammo are trading hands, on their way to Israel.
I'm not sure you off-topic by much, Forester, there were terrorist training camps inside Israel long before the Jewish state lurched into existence in 1948.You know it George, it does seem like Israel would like to see complete chaos in the Middle East to try to distract from their atrocities in Gaza/West Bank. You know, like throwing up a smoke screen to hide behind. That wall is outrageously tall and thick. Makes you wonder what other dirty things they're trying to hide over there behind the wall? Terrorist training camps? You never can tell.You're wasting key strokes on Rosie; she's looking for ways to make that illegal WALL IS proof:Actually, I've read up on a lot of these topics and find that georgephillip's posts are completely legit/accurate. What does that say about YOU? Answer: You just don't like the facts. You want to change them and insult people in the process. Grow up.Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Just out of curiosity can you explain why Israel continues to violate International Law with these illegal settlements, pretending no one will notice? Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention PROHIBITS POPULATION TRANSFERS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY. Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
No way around it. Israel is violating (another) International Law. Shameful. Now retreat to your own lands, thieves. Oh, and knock down your illegal WALL while you're at it.
"The Islamic State’s primary mission is to build a strong foundation in what it refers to as the Abode of Islam. The plan: Sweep away Jordan and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Jordan is the next target after consolidating gains in Iraq and Syria, because Jordan’s territory offers access to the northern tribes of Saudi Arabia.
"From there, its dreams are wildly ambitious: Lead a campaign that will range fromJerusalem all the way to the Iberian peninsula in order to recapture the caliphate of Córdoba and restore Muslim rule which ended in 1492. The IS, according to Israeli political and military sources, is recruiting on the West Bank and in Gaza to launch attacks on Israel."
The Islamic State is reshuffling balance of power in Middle East Al Jazeera America
I went a little off topic so I think Israel is probably conducting trade deals with Russia. I bet a lot of bullets/ammo are trading hands, on their way to Israel.
That wall was put up to enable Jews to steal more Arab land and water in violation of international law and all norms of morality and justice; some Jews spell "justice" as "just us."You know it George, it does seem like Israel would like to see complete chaos in the Middle East to try to distract from their atrocities in Gaza/West Bank. You know, like throwing up a smoke screen to hide behind. That wall is outrageously tall and thick. Makes you wonder what other dirty things they're trying to hide over there behind the wall? Terrorist training camps? You never can tell.You're wasting key strokes on Rosie; she's looking for ways to make that illegal WALL IS proof:Actually, I've read up on a lot of these topics and find that georgephillip's posts are completely legit/accurate. What does that say about YOU? Answer: You just don't like the facts. You want to change them and insult people in the process. Grow up.Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Just out of curiosity can you explain why Israel continues to violate International Law with these illegal settlements, pretending no one will notice? Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention PROHIBITS POPULATION TRANSFERS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY. Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
No way around it. Israel is violating (another) International Law. Shameful. Now retreat to your own lands, thieves. Oh, and knock down your illegal WALL while you're at it.
"The Islamic State’s primary mission is to build a strong foundation in what it refers to as the Abode of Islam. The plan: Sweep away Jordan and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Jordan is the next target after consolidating gains in Iraq and Syria, because Jordan’s territory offers access to the northern tribes of Saudi Arabia.
"From there, its dreams are wildly ambitious: Lead a campaign that will range fromJerusalem all the way to the Iberian peninsula in order to recapture the caliphate of Córdoba and restore Muslim rule which ended in 1492. The IS, according to Israeli political and military sources, is recruiting on the West Bank and in Gaza to launch attacks on Israel."
The Islamic State is reshuffling balance of power in Middle East Al Jazeera America
I went a little off topic so I think Israel is probably conducting trade deals with Russia. I bet a lot of bullets/ammo are trading hands, on their way to Israel.
Are you saying that ISIS is now the Jews fault? That's a new one!
For your information, Forester..... The wall was put up to keep terrorists out. Not in. The terrorist training camps are "on the other side" of that wall.
The New Middle East is not a Lie:Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Jeri, how do you interpret Samson's outcome in Gaza?Israel and Russia:
"Six months ago, after Vladimir Putin annexed part of Ukraine, President Obama authorized sanctions against Russia. 'The basic principles that govern relations between nations in Europe and around the world must be upheld in the 21st century,' said Obama. 'That includes respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity—the notion that nations do not simply redraw borders or make decisions at the expense of their neighbors simply because they are larger or more powerful.'
"The United States has defended that principle in Ukraine and Iraq: You can’t use force to grab territory or change borders.
"But Israel, a U.S. ally, continues to violate the rule.
"This weekend, Israel claimed yet more Palestinian territory: nearly 1,000 acres, its biggest land grab in 30 years."
Israel rsquo s illegal land grab in West Bank The Israeli rationale is no different than Vladimir Putin rsquo s in Ukraine.
George. Israel owns .04% of the middle east and the Muslims own the other 99.96%. Why? Because Israel is not living on all the land that is part of Isaacs inheritance. Others have been grabbing Israeli land through very devious methods and it is all going to come down to one big final outcome. Which the enemies of Israel will not like at all. But when you keep ignoring warning after warning? That is what happens.
Israel was born in terror, Jeri, and it's coming dangerously close to following in the footsteps of Apartheid South Africa:"The Hamas charter, of course, does more than just reject Israel as a sovereign political entity. It’s a vile document that echoes some of the worst anti-Semitic tropes of the modern era.
"But on the central question of one side denying the other’s legitimacy — it’s hard to ignore the symmetry between Likud – the party of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu – and Hamas."
The Hateful Likud Charter Calls for Destruction of Any Palestinian State Informed Comment
Hamas is a terrorist organization that has called for the destruction of Israel. They are the US State Dept.s' foreign Terrorist organization list, George. Why are you equating Hamas with someone legitimate? That does not even make sense! It's like discussing the political opinion of Charles Manson vs. the US House of Representatives. You're way out in left field, George. Way out.
I'm not sure you off-topic by much, Forester, there were terrorist training camps inside Israel long before the Jewish state lurched into existence in 1948.You know it George, it does seem like Israel would like to see complete chaos in the Middle East to try to distract from their atrocities in Gaza/West Bank. You know, like throwing up a smoke screen to hide behind. That wall is outrageously tall and thick. Makes you wonder what other dirty things they're trying to hide over there behind the wall? Terrorist training camps? You never can tell.You're wasting key strokes on Rosie; she's looking for ways to make that illegal WALL IS proof:Actually, I've read up on a lot of these topics and find that georgephillip's posts are completely legit/accurate. What does that say about YOU? Answer: You just don't like the facts. You want to change them and insult people in the process. Grow up.Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Just out of curiosity can you explain why Israel continues to violate International Law with these illegal settlements, pretending no one will notice? Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention PROHIBITS POPULATION TRANSFERS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY. Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
No way around it. Israel is violating (another) International Law. Shameful. Now retreat to your own lands, thieves. Oh, and knock down your illegal WALL while you're at it.
"The Islamic State’s primary mission is to build a strong foundation in what it refers to as the Abode of Islam. The plan: Sweep away Jordan and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Jordan is the next target after consolidating gains in Iraq and Syria, because Jordan’s territory offers access to the northern tribes of Saudi Arabia.
"From there, its dreams are wildly ambitious: Lead a campaign that will range fromJerusalem all the way to the Iberian peninsula in order to recapture the caliphate of Córdoba and restore Muslim rule which ended in 1492. The IS, according to Israeli political and military sources, is recruiting on the West Bank and in Gaza to launch attacks on Israel."
The Islamic State is reshuffling balance of power in Middle East Al Jazeera America
I went a little off topic so I think Israel is probably conducting trade deals with Russia. I bet a lot of bullets/ammo are trading hands, on their way to Israel.
I'm sure you are correct about complete chaos as the ultimate goal of both the US and Israel in the New Middle East:
"'Hegemony is as old as Mankind…' -Zbigniew Brzezinski, former U.S. National Security Advisor
"The term 'New Middle East' was introduced to the world in June 2006 in Tel Aviv by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (who was credited by the Western media for coining the term) in replacement of the older and more imposing term, the 'Greater Middle East.'
"This shift in foreign policy phraseology coincided with the inauguration of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Oil Terminal in the Eastern Mediterranean.
"The term and conceptualization of the “New Middle East,” was subsequently heralded by the U.S. Secretary of State and the Israeli Prime Minister at the height of the Anglo-American sponsored Israeli siege of Lebanon.
"Prime Minister Olmert and Secretary Rice had informed the international media that a project for a 'New Middle East' was being launched from Lebanon."
Hezbollah threw up a speed bump to that New Middle East in Lebanon in 2006, but the Evil Empire has regrouped during the last eight years.
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East The Project for a New Middle East Global Research
What Israel and Russia have in common:
"Americans now see Russia as the United States' top foreign foe, as its image across the Pacific Ocean hits lows not seen in decades.
"But on that second count, Russia is actually in some good company -- with no less than America's top ally in the region: Israel.
"A new CNN/Opinion Research poll shows 38 percent of Americans now have an unfavorable view of Israel, which in recent days has launched a ground operation in Gaza that has resulted in more casualties than its allies would prefer (witness John Kerry's reaction). The death toll in the current conflict includes more than 500 Palestinians.
"If you combine CNN and Gallup polling, that's the most Americans who view Israel in a negative light since 1992."
What Russia and Israel have in common - The Washington Post
Actually I was responding to someone who spoke of nuking the region turning into radioactive glass but you forgot to mention that. Anyway it's been calculated that Israel dropped the equivalent of 6 nuclear bombs worth of explosives onto Gaza. That's a lot. So that puts it in perspective. Police Israel dropped equivalent of 6 nuclear bombs on Gaza Maan News AgencyYou know it George, it does seem like Israel would like to see complete chaos in the Middle East to try to distract from their atrocities in Gaza/West Bank. You know, like throwing up a smoke screen to hide behind. That wall is outrageously tall and thick. Makes you wonder what other dirty things they're trying to hide over there behind the wall? Terrorist training camps? You never can tell.You're wasting key strokes on Rosie; she's looking for ways to make that illegal WALL IS proof:Actually, I've read up on a lot of these topics and find that georgephillip's posts are completely legit/accurate. What does that say about YOU? Answer: You just don't like the facts. You want to change them and insult people in the process. Grow up.Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Just out of curiosity can you explain why Israel continues to violate International Law with these illegal settlements, pretending no one will notice? Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention PROHIBITS POPULATION TRANSFERS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY. Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
No way around it. Israel is violating (another) International Law. Shameful. Now retreat to your own lands, thieves. Oh, and knock down your illegal WALL while you're at it.
"The Islamic State’s primary mission is to build a strong foundation in what it refers to as the Abode of Islam. The plan: Sweep away Jordan and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Jordan is the next target after consolidating gains in Iraq and Syria, because Jordan’s territory offers access to the northern tribes of Saudi Arabia.
"From there, its dreams are wildly ambitious: Lead a campaign that will range fromJerusalem all the way to the Iberian peninsula in order to recapture the caliphate of Córdoba and restore Muslim rule which ended in 1492. The IS, according to Israeli political and military sources, is recruiting on the West Bank and in Gaza to launch attacks on Israel."
The Islamic State is reshuffling balance of power in Middle East Al Jazeera America
I went a little off topic so I think Israel is probably conducting trade deals with Russia. I bet a lot of bullets/ammo are trading hands, on their way to Israel.
A guy like Forester thinks he has credibility with rational thinkers after he just this evening said on another forum that Israel should be nuked after all the people who aren't Jewish have left. Forester, don't you think people are smart enough to realize that Gaza George doesn't care about the Arabs and uses them as his pawns. This happens to be the Middle East forum that you just crawled onto, and Gaza George is not interested in what is happening to the Arabs in the rest of the Middle East, and you probably don't either or we would see you posting about what is happening to them. It really is a hoot to watch people try to fake it that they care about Arabs when they have nothing to say about the 190,000 killed so far in other parts of the Middle East.
The explosives dropped also contained radioactive uranium that contaminates water, soil, land for years.
Actually I was responding to someone who spoke of nuking the region turning into radioactive glass but you forgot to mention that. Anyway it's been calculated that Israel dropped the equivalent of 6 nuclear bombs worth of explosives onto Gaza. That's a lot. So that puts it in perspective. Police Israel dropped equivalent of 6 nuclear bombs on Gaza Maan News AgencyYou know it George, it does seem like Israel would like to see complete chaos in the Middle East to try to distract from their atrocities in Gaza/West Bank. You know, like throwing up a smoke screen to hide behind. That wall is outrageously tall and thick. Makes you wonder what other dirty things they're trying to hide over there behind the wall? Terrorist training camps? You never can tell.You're wasting key strokes on Rosie; she's looking for ways to make that illegal WALL IS proof:Actually, I've read up on a lot of these topics and find that georgephillip's posts are completely legit/accurate. What does that say about YOU? Answer: You just don't like the facts. You want to change them and insult people in the process. Grow up.Georgie is a typical desperate islamo Nazi-----"REPEAT THE LIES AND SOMEONE WILL BELIEVE"
Just out of curiosity can you explain why Israel continues to violate International Law with these illegal settlements, pretending no one will notice? Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention PROHIBITS POPULATION TRANSFERS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY. Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
No way around it. Israel is violating (another) International Law. Shameful. Now retreat to your own lands, thieves. Oh, and knock down your illegal WALL while you're at it.
"The Islamic State’s primary mission is to build a strong foundation in what it refers to as the Abode of Islam. The plan: Sweep away Jordan and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Jordan is the next target after consolidating gains in Iraq and Syria, because Jordan’s territory offers access to the northern tribes of Saudi Arabia.
"From there, its dreams are wildly ambitious: Lead a campaign that will range fromJerusalem all the way to the Iberian peninsula in order to recapture the caliphate of Córdoba and restore Muslim rule which ended in 1492. The IS, according to Israeli political and military sources, is recruiting on the West Bank and in Gaza to launch attacks on Israel."
The Islamic State is reshuffling balance of power in Middle East Al Jazeera America
I went a little off topic so I think Israel is probably conducting trade deals with Russia. I bet a lot of bullets/ammo are trading hands, on their way to Israel.
A guy like Forester thinks he has credibility with rational thinkers after he just this evening said on another forum that Israel should be nuked after all the people who aren't Jewish have left. Forester, don't you think people are smart enough to realize that Gaza George doesn't care about the Arabs and uses them as his pawns. This happens to be the Middle East forum that you just crawled onto, and Gaza George is not interested in what is happening to the Arabs in the rest of the Middle East, and you probably don't either or we would see you posting about what is happening to them. It really is a hoot to watch people try to fake it that they care about Arabs when they have nothing to say about the 190,000 killed so far in other parts of the Middle East.
The explosives dropped also contained radioactive uranium that contaminates water, soil, land for years.
Israel does not use UD any more.
DU has both civilian and military uses. It is not banned.
Depleted Uranium
"Normal functioning of the kidney, brain, liver, heart, and numerous other systems can be affected by uranium exposure because, in addition to being weakly radioactive, uranium is a toxic metal,[7] although less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic andmercury.[66]
"It is weakly radioactive but is 'persistently' so because of its long half-life. TheAgency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry states that: 'to be exposed to radiation from uranium, you have to eat, drink, or breathe it, or get it on your skin.'[67]
"If DU particles do enter an individual, the type of danger presented—toxic vs. radiological—and the organ most likely to be affected depend on the solubility of the particles.[68]
"In military conflicts involving DU munitions, the major concern is inhalation of DU particles in aerosols arising from the impacts of DU-enhanced projectiles with their targets.[68]
"When depleted uranium munitions penetrate armor or burn, they create depleted uranium oxides in the form of dust that can be inhaled or contaminate wounds.
"The Institute of Nuclear Technology-Radiation Protection of Attiki, Greece, has noted that 'the aerosol produced during impact and combustion of depleted uranium munitions can potentially contaminate wide areas around the impact sites or can be inhaled by civilians and military personnel.'[9]
"The utilisation of DU in incendiary ammunition is controversial because of potential adverse health effects and its release into the environment.[69][70][71]
Depleted uranium - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
I really hope that uranium didn't get dropped on to the Palestinians. That's got to be a war crime if many of the Palestinians get cancer. I BELIEVE THE BRITISH DOCTORS THAT SAID URANIUM CAN CAUSE LUNG CANCER AND BLOOD AND BRAIN CANCER. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY NETANYAHU DROPPED IT ON THEM. TO GET THEM SICK, THEN DIE FROM IT. That's his plan. To free up water resources. Less resistance to his IDF army. That's a war crime."The U.S. Department of Defense claims that no human cancer of any type has been seen as a result of exposure to either natural or depleted uranium.[75]
"Militaries have long had risk-reduction procedures for their troops to follow,[76] and studies are in consistent agreement that veterans who used DU-enhanced munitions have not suffered, so far, from an increased risk of cancer (see the Gulf War and Balkans sections below).
"The effects of DU on civilian populations are, however, a topic of intense and ongoing controversy.
"As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the British MoD (Ministry of Defence) that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.[77]
"According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, 'Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance—if any. … Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer.'
"The report warns that 'All personnel … should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk … [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers.'"[77]
Depleted uranium - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
What do you make of Abbas?I really hope that uranium didn't get dropped on to the Palestinians. That's got to be a war crime if many of the Palestinians get cancer. I BELIEVE THE BRITISH DOCTORS THAT SAID URANIUM CAN CAUSE LUNG CANCER AND BLOOD AND BRAIN CANCER. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY NETANYAHU DROPPED IT ON THEM. TO GET THEM SICK, THEN DIE FROM IT. That's his plan. To free up water resources. Less resistance to his IDF army. That's a war crime."The U.S. Department of Defense claims that no human cancer of any type has been seen as a result of exposure to either natural or depleted uranium.[75]
"Militaries have long had risk-reduction procedures for their troops to follow,[76] and studies are in consistent agreement that veterans who used DU-enhanced munitions have not suffered, so far, from an increased risk of cancer (see the Gulf War and Balkans sections below).
"The effects of DU on civilian populations are, however, a topic of intense and ongoing controversy.
"As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the British MoD (Ministry of Defence) that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.[77]
"According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, 'Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance—if any. … Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer.'
"The report warns that 'All personnel … should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk … [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers.'"[77]
Depleted uranium - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
