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Israeli Settlers Teach Their Children To Kill Early

I believe it is closer to 100,000 but still a far cry from the "millions of Arabs" GPhillip claims and his unhappiness with the plight of those hapless "Palestinians" extends only as far as it allows him to bitch about Israel. After that they are on their own.


so true the FACT is that there are "MILLIONS" of something but no one cares There are MILLIONS OF STARVING AND SICK AND DISCARDED MUSLIM CHILDREN LYING IN GUTTERS no one cares

Long ago------when jews started the current zionist project ---ie in the early 1800s there were muslims in Jerusalem--------and in the filthy gutters sick children dying-----of malaria, cholera, tuberculosis, shistosomiasis, polio and even leprosy-----and ALSO STARVATION did the UMMAH CARE nope not at all When jews started building the place and addressing the endemic sicknesses what did the UMMAH do? well-----as the kids lay dying in the shadow of "AL AQSA" they covered the dome with pure gold to ESTABLISH ISLAMIC DOMINANCE OVER THE CITY The luck dying kids did get to see gold before they died

There are MILLIONS OF STARVING AND SICK AND DISCARDED MUSLIM CHILDREN LYING IN GUTTERS no one cares

It is not that nobody cares. It is that the US and Israel are closing down charities left and right.

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If they were to apply for and gain Israeli citizenship - as Jerusalem's "Palestinians" have been doing in increasing numbers - they would be eligible to vote. Area C is not part of Israel.
Non-Jewish residents of Area C are subject to Israeli laws and pay Israeli taxes.
Since Israel confers different levels of popular sovereignty based on citizenship and nationality those Jerusalem Palestinians will still be second class citizens, at best.

Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?
 
Pbel, have you ever considered how the Muslims have gotten all that land in the Middle East when most of these countries were basically inhabited by Christians before the Muslims left the Saudi Peninsula and forced people to convert, killing many who refused. Pbel seems like the perfect Dhimwit and wouldn't care if the Muslims develop a worldwide caliphate, which many Muslims would like to do.
Egyptian Islamic Jihad

Hoss the Religious war between Israel and Islam is not of our concern. This religious war was started when the occupation of Arab Muslim Lands when Israel went beyond its 67 borders...It has always been the aggressor since its inception was forced on the indiginous residents as occupied.

Camel crap. The Arabs have been at war with Israel since its inception and with the region's Jews far far longer.
The war got much hotter when one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians. How would you react if land your family had lived on for generations became a UN-wrapped gift to the "chosen people?"
 
Non-Jewish residents of Area C are subject to Israeli laws and pay Israeli taxes.
Since Israel confers different levels of popular sovereignty based on citizenship and nationality those Jerusalem Palestinians will still be second class citizens, at best.

Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?

These is only one checkpoint still standing in the West Bank. The checkpoints were a response to the second intifada, and as the number of attempted terrorist attacks decreased, so did the number of checkpoints. The last one will be removed when security conditions allow. The Palestinian Arabs do have a lot of contacts with Israelis. About 30,000 of them work in construction and other industries in the Israeli West Bank communities.
 
Hoss the Religious war between Israel and Islam is not of our concern. This religious war was started when the occupation of Arab Muslim Lands when Israel went beyond its 67 borders...It has always been the aggressor since its inception was forced on the indiginous residents as occupied.

Camel crap. The Arabs have been at war with Israel since its inception and with the region's Jews far far longer.
The war got much hotter when one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians. How would you react if land your family had lived on for generations became a UN-wrapped gift to the "chosen people?"

The Chosen People. As opposed to the Christian Elect or the Muslim True Believers?
 
If they were to apply for and gain Israeli citizenship - as Jerusalem's "Palestinians" have been doing in increasing numbers - they would be eligible to vote. Area C is not part of Israel.

The situation is different in Area C. When Israel annexed Jerusalem, all the Palestinian Arabs living there were made permanent residents of Israel and were given the right to become Israeli citizens if they chose to. Since Area C is not part of Israel at this time, the Palestinian Arabs living there are not permanent residents of Israel and do not have an automatic right to become Israeli citizens. They are citizens of the PA and have all the rights and responsibilities of the Palestinian Arabs living in Areas A and B.

So you are saying that George's claim that Area C "Palestinians" pay Israeli taxes was a blatant lie?
Say it ain't so!
George? Retort?
"Taxation in the Palestinian territories is a complex system which may involve payment to the Palestinian Authority (PA) and/or Israel in the context of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.

"In 2005 the Palestinian Authority collected approximately $34 million per month from taxes and other charges, and Israel collected about $75 million per month in tariffs on foreign imports and value added taxes (VAT) on Israeli goods and services and on average kept about $15 million while forwarding the other $60 million to the PA.[1]

"Israeli collected funds account for about two-thirds of the authority's self-generated revenue.[2] Since the 2006 Palestinian legislative election, Israel has regularly withheld the taxes it owes the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority."

Taxation in the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?

These is only one checkpoint still standing in the West Bank. The checkpoints were a response to the second intifada, and as the number of attempted terrorist attacks decreased, so did the number of checkpoints. The last one will be removed when security conditions allow. The Palestinian Arabs do have a lot of contacts with Israelis. About 30,000 of them work in construction and other industries in the Israeli West Bank communities.
The Second Intifada was in response to one third of the residents of Mandate Palestine inflicting a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians in 1948.
 
Camel crap. The Arabs have been at war with Israel since its inception and with the region's Jews far far longer.
The war got much hotter when one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians. How would you react if land your family had lived on for generations became a UN-wrapped gift to the "chosen people?"

The Chosen People. As opposed to the Christian Elect or the Muslim True Believers?
Or even the Exceptional Americans.
 
Hoss the Religious war between Israel and Islam is not of our concern. This religious war was started when the occupation of Arab Muslim Lands when Israel went beyond its 67 borders...It has always been the aggressor since its inception was forced on the indiginous residents as occupied.

Camel crap. The Arabs have been at war with Israel since its inception and with the region's Jews far far longer.
The war got much hotter when one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians. How would you react if land your family had lived on for generations became a UN-wrapped gift to the "chosen people?"

Bullshit. Better than 80% of the Arabs living in the area that became pre 1967 Israel followed the British in after WWI, arriving at about the same time as the majority of the Jews did. Studies of the increase in population in areas where there was little economic development, mostly the West Bank, show that the enormous increase in the Arab population in the part of the Mandate that became Israel was almost entirely due to Arab immigration after the British took over, and the UN confirmed this by defining a Palestinian refugee as some one who had been in what became Israel for at least two years after the Arab states rejected using five years in the definition.

Both the British courts and the Peel Commission debunked the bogus claims about land theft.
 
Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?


Where's your link for the 2.3 million Palestinians?

"2016 estimate 4,816,503[4]
- 2007 census 3,719,189[4][5]
-
There are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation that don't have the right to vote in Israel's elections.

Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do indeed have links regarding the 2.3 million WB "Palestinians" (your 3.7 - 4.8 mil number includes Gazans who are not W Bankers - something I'm certain you were aware of when you posted that).
You do know where Area C is, Princess, don't you?
Now where did you learn that "there are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation?"
You have a link, right?

The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 and 220 km2 water, the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea. It has an estimated population of 2,622,544 (June 2012). More than 80 percent, about 2,000,000, are Palestinian Arabs, approximately 500,000 are Jewish Israelis living in the West Bank.

West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?
 
The situation is different in Area C. When Israel annexed Jerusalem, all the Palestinian Arabs living there were made permanent residents of Israel and were given the right to become Israeli citizens if they chose to. Since Area C is not part of Israel at this time, the Palestinian Arabs living there are not permanent residents of Israel and do not have an automatic right to become Israeli citizens. They are citizens of the PA and have all the rights and responsibilities of the Palestinian Arabs living in Areas A and B.

So you are saying that George's claim that Area C "Palestinians" pay Israeli taxes was a blatant lie?
Say it ain't so!
George? Retort?
"Taxation in the Palestinian territories is a complex system which may involve payment to the Palestinian Authority (PA) and/or Israel in the context of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.

"In 2005 the Palestinian Authority collected approximately $34 million per month from taxes and other charges, and Israel collected about $75 million per month in tariffs on foreign imports and value added taxes (VAT) on Israeli goods and services and on average kept about $15 million while forwarding the other $60 million to the PA.[1]

"Israeli collected funds account for about two-thirds of the authority's self-generated revenue.[2] Since the 2006 Palestinian legislative election, Israel has regularly withheld the taxes it owes the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority."

Taxation in the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly. Israel collects taxes in Area C on behalf of the PA. All of the money is sent to the PA and without this assistance from Israel, the economies in both the West Bank and Gaza would collapse.
 
Where's your link for the 2.3 million Palestinians?

"2016 estimate 4,816,503[4]
- 2007 census 3,719,189[4][5]
-
There are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation that don't have the right to vote in Israel's elections.

Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do indeed have links regarding the 2.3 million WB "Palestinians" (your 3.7 - 4.8 mil number includes Gazans who are not W Bankers - something I'm certain you were aware of when you posted that).
You do know where Area C is, Princess, don't you?
Now where did you learn that "there are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation?"
You have a link, right?

The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 and 220 km2 water, the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea. It has an estimated population of 2,622,544 (June 2012). More than 80 percent, about 2,000,000, are Palestinian Arabs, approximately 500,000 are Jewish Israelis living in the West Bank.

West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?

They all get to vote in PA elections, not in Israeli elections. How many French get to vote in British elections?
 
Camel crap. The Arabs have been at war with Israel since its inception and with the region's Jews far far longer.
The war got much hotter when one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians. How would you react if land your family had lived on for generations became a UN-wrapped gift to the "chosen people?"

Bullshit. Better than 80% of the Arabs living in the area that became pre 1967 Israel followed the British in after WWI, arriving at about the same time as the majority of the Jews did. Studies of the increase in population in areas where there was little economic development, mostly the West Bank, show that the enormous increase in the Arab population in the part of the Mandate that became Israel was almost entirely due to Arab immigration after the British took over, and the UN confirmed this by defining a Palestinian refugee as some one who had been in what became Israel for at least two years after the Arab states rejected using five years in the definition.

Both the British courts and the Peel Commission debunked the bogus claims about land theft.
650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs lived in Mandate Palestine in 1948.
One third of the total population imposed a Jewish state upon the majority by force of arms.
No bullshit.
 
I do indeed have links regarding the 2.3 million WB "Palestinians" (your 3.7 - 4.8 mil number includes Gazans who are not W Bankers - something I'm certain you were aware of when you posted that).
You do know where Area C is, Princess, don't you?
Now where did you learn that "there are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation?"
You have a link, right?

The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 and 220 km2 water, the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea. It has an estimated population of 2,622,544 (June 2012). More than 80 percent, about 2,000,000, are Palestinian Arabs, approximately 500,000 are Jewish Israelis living in the West Bank.

West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?

They all get to vote in PA elections, not in Israeli elections. How many French get to vote in British elections?
How many French citizens are living under British occupation?
 
Where's your link for the 2.3 million Palestinians?

"2016 estimate 4,816,503[4]
- 2007 census 3,719,189[4][5]
-
There are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation that don't have the right to vote in Israel's elections.

Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do indeed have links regarding the 2.3 million WB "Palestinians" (your 3.7 - 4.8 mil number includes Gazans who are not W Bankers - something I'm certain you were aware of when you posted that).
You do know where Area C is, Princess, don't you?
Now where did you learn that "there are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation?"
You have a link, right?

The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 and 220 km2 water, the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea. It has an estimated population of 2,622,544 (June 2012). More than 80 percent, about 2,000,000, are Palestinian Arabs, approximately 500,000 are Jewish Israelis living in the West Bank.

West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?

Actually, only Arabs within the Green Line can vote in Israeli elections. But many Arab Knesset members are traitors and collaborate with the enemy.
 
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?

These is only one checkpoint still standing in the West Bank. The checkpoints were a response to the second intifada, and as the number of attempted terrorist attacks decreased, so did the number of checkpoints. The last one will be removed when security conditions allow. The Palestinian Arabs do have a lot of contacts with Israelis. About 30,000 of them work in construction and other industries in the Israeli West Bank communities.
The Second Intifada was in response to one third of the residents of Mandate Palestine inflicting a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians in 1948.

Which, of course, never happened. Less than 200,000 Arabs chose to remain in what became Israel.
 
Non-Jewish residents of Area C are subject to Israeli laws and pay Israeli taxes.
Since Israel confers different levels of popular sovereignty based on citizenship and nationality those Jerusalem Palestinians will still be second class citizens, at best.

Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?

I do and I will post it right after you post a link which proves your claim that there are "millions of Arabs living under Israeli military law (http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...ir-children-to-kill-early-20.html#post6029181) in Area C." :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:
 
How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?

They all get to vote in PA elections, not in Israeli elections. How many French get to vote in British elections?
How many French citizens are living under British occupation?

No Palestinian Arabs are living under Israeli occupation. They are citizens of the PA and have all the rights and responsibilities the PA allows them.
 

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