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I said there are millions of Palestinians living under Israeli occupation in Area C, for example.I am still waiting for sherri to provide me with information on the TEACHING OF JEWISH CHILDREN TO KILL
And for Gphillip to support his claim of "millions of Palestinians" in Area C.
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?
These is only one checkpoint still standing in the West Bank. The checkpoints were a response to the second intifada, and as the number of attempted terrorist attacks decreased, so did the number of checkpoints. The last one will be removed when security conditions allow. The Palestinian Arabs do have a lot of contacts with Israelis. About 30,000 of them work in construction and other industries in the Israeli West Bank communities.
How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?Where's your link for the 2.3 million Palestinians?
"2016 estimate 4,816,503[4]
- 2007 census 3,719,189[4][5]
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There are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation that don't have the right to vote in Israel's elections.
Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I do indeed have links regarding the 2.3 million WB "Palestinians" (your 3.7 - 4.8 mil number includes Gazans who are not W Bankers - something I'm certain you were aware of when you posted that).
You do know where Area C is, Princess, don't you?
Now where did you learn that "there are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation?"
You have a link, right?
The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 and 220 km2 water, the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea. It has an estimated population of 2,622,544 (June 2012). More than 80 percent, about 2,000,000, are Palestinian Arabs, approximately 500,000 are Jewish Israelis living in the West Bank.
West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mandate Palestine 1948.The Second Intifada was in response to one third of the residents of Mandate Palestine inflicting a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians in 1948.These is only one checkpoint still standing in the West Bank. The checkpoints were a response to the second intifada, and as the number of attempted terrorist attacks decreased, so did the number of checkpoints. The last one will be removed when security conditions allow. The Palestinian Arabs do have a lot of contacts with Israelis. About 30,000 of them work in construction and other industries in the Israeli West Bank communities.
Which, of course, never happened. Less than 200,000 Arabs chose to remain in what became Israel.
"Taxation in the Palestinian territories is a complex system which may involve payment to the Palestinian Authority (PA) and/or Israel in the context of the IsraeliPalestinian conflict.So you are saying that George's claim that Area C "Palestinians" pay Israeli taxes was a blatant lie?
Say it ain't so!
George? Retort?
"In 2005 the Palestinian Authority collected approximately $34 million per month from taxes and other charges, and Israel collected about $75 million per month in tariffs on foreign imports and value added taxes (VAT) on Israeli goods and services and on average kept about $15 million while forwarding the other $60 million to the PA.[1]
"Israeli collected funds account for about two-thirds of the authority's self-generated revenue.[2] Since the 2006 Palestinian legislative election, Israel has regularly withheld the taxes it owes the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority."
Taxation in the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Exactly. Israel collects taxes in Area C on behalf of the PA. All of the money is sent to the PA and without this assistance from Israel, the economies in both the West Bank and Gaza would collapse.
650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs lived in Mandate Palestine in 1948.The war got much hotter when one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians. How would you react if land your family had lived on for generations became a UN-wrapped gift to the "chosen people?"
Bullshit. Better than 80% of the Arabs living in the area that became pre 1967 Israel followed the British in after WWI, arriving at about the same time as the majority of the Jews did. Studies of the increase in population in areas where there was little economic development, mostly the West Bank, show that the enormous increase in the Arab population in the part of the Mandate that became Israel was almost entirely due to Arab immigration after the British took over, and the UN confirmed this by defining a Palestinian refugee as some one who had been in what became Israel for at least two years after the Arab states rejected using five years in the definition.
Both the British courts and the Peel Commission debunked the bogus claims about land theft.
One third of the total population imposed a Jewish state upon the majority by force of arms.
No bullshit.
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?Camel crap. All of Israel's citizens have equal voting rights (the subject of this conversation, remember?) and only 6% of the West Bank's 2.3mil "Palestinians" live in the mostly rural Area C. The vast majority of those Arabs have no contact at all with the Israelis or the tax man.
Do you have a link as to how much they pay in taxes?
I do and I will post it right after you post a link which proves your claim that there are "millions of Arabs living under Israeli military law (http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...ir-children-to-kill-early-20.html#post6029181) in Area C."
Mandate Palestine 1948.The Second Intifada was in response to one third of the residents of Mandate Palestine inflicting a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians in 1948.
Which, of course, never happened. Less than 200,000 Arabs chose to remain in what became Israel.
650,000 Jews.
1.2 million Arabs and others.
One third of the population inflicted a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians, purging over 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts.
Mandate Palestine 1948.Which, of course, never happened. Less than 200,000 Arabs chose to remain in what became Israel.
650,000 Jews.
1.2 million Arabs and others.
One third of the population inflicted a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians, purging over 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts.
A slogan, not an idea.
The population of Mandate Palestine in 1948 consisted of 650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs and others.650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs lived in Mandate Palestine in 1948.Bullshit. Better than 80% of the Arabs living in the area that became pre 1967 Israel followed the British in after WWI, arriving at about the same time as the majority of the Jews did. Studies of the increase in population in areas where there was little economic development, mostly the West Bank, show that the enormous increase in the Arab population in the part of the Mandate that became Israel was almost entirely due to Arab immigration after the British took over, and the UN confirmed this by defining a Palestinian refugee as some one who had been in what became Israel for at least two years after the Arab states rejected using five years in the definition.
Both the British courts and the Peel Commission debunked the bogus claims about land theft.
One third of the total population imposed a Jewish state upon the majority by force of arms.
No bullshit.
Yep, bullshit. Only 150,000 to 200,000 thousand Arabs chose to be part of the state of Israel. The remainder had either a Jordanian state or an Egyptian puppet state imposed on them. The creation of a Palestinian state in 1948 was never a real possibility, not because the Jews wanted to create a state of their own but because the Arab states had always intended to capture and keep the land for themselves. Jordan had always intended to keep the West Bank for itself, Syria had always claimed northern Israel was really part of Greater Syria and Nasser always believed he should be governing the entire Arab world, not just Egypt. That's why a Palestinian state was never created in the areas Egypt and Jordan held after the war.
Reality, not propaganda.Mandate Palestine 1948.Which, of course, never happened. Less than 200,000 Arabs chose to remain in what became Israel.
650,000 Jews.
1.2 million Arabs and others.
One third of the population inflicted a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians, purging over 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts.
A slogan, not an idea.
The answer, Pathic Prince, is exactly zero of the two million Palestinians living with a kosher boot on his/her neck gets to vote in Israeli elections. Jewish state or democratic state, what's your choice?How many of those 2.000.000 Palestinian Arabs living under Israeli laws and paying PA/Israeli taxes get to vote in Israeli elections?I do indeed have links regarding the 2.3 million WB "Palestinians" (your 3.7 - 4.8 mil number includes Gazans who are not W Bankers - something I'm certain you were aware of when you posted that).
You do know where Area C is, Princess, don't you?
Now where did you learn that "there are over three million Palestinians living under Israeli laws and subject to various forms of kosher taxation?"
You have a link, right?
The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 and 220 km2 water, the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea. It has an estimated population of 2,622,544 (June 2012). More than 80 percent, about 2,000,000, are Palestinian Arabs, approximately 500,000 are Jewish Israelis living in the West Bank.
West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
All of those with Israeli citizenship, Princess, and this is your subject, Princess ... don't ask me to provide you with the facts. Look 'em up yourself.
Do you have a link proving residents of Area C have little contact with Israeli checkpoints or illegal settlers?
These is only one checkpoint still standing in the West Bank. The checkpoints were a response to the second intifada, and as the number of attempted terrorist attacks decreased, so did the number of checkpoints. The last one will be removed when security conditions allow. The Palestinian Arabs do have a lot of contacts with Israelis. About 30,000 of them work in construction and other industries in the Israeli West Bank communities.
Not necessarily from Area C, the topic of this conversation.
And the PA has all the "rights and responsibilities" that Israel allows.How many French citizens are living under British occupation?They all get to vote in PA elections, not in Israeli elections. How many French get to vote in British elections?
No Palestinian Arabs are living under Israeli occupation. They are citizens of the PA and have all the rights and responsibilities the PA allows them.
The population of Mandate Palestine in 1948 consisted of 650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs and others.650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs lived in Mandate Palestine in 1948.
One third of the total population imposed a Jewish state upon the majority by force of arms.
No bullshit.
Yep, bullshit. Only 150,000 to 200,000 thousand Arabs chose to be part of the state of Israel. The remainder had either a Jordanian state or an Egyptian puppet state imposed on them. The creation of a Palestinian state in 1948 was never a real possibility, not because the Jews wanted to create a state of their own but because the Arab states had always intended to capture and keep the land for themselves. Jordan had always intended to keep the West Bank for itself, Syria had always claimed northern Israel was really part of Greater Syria and Nasser always believed he should be governing the entire Arab world, not just Egypt. That's why a Palestinian state was never created in the areas Egypt and Jordan held after the war.
The Jews inflicted a Jewish State upon a 2/3rd majority of all Palestinians regardless of Arab intentions in Jordan and Egypt.
And the PA has all the "rights and responsibilities" that Israel allows.How many French citizens are living under British occupation?
No Palestinian Arabs are living under Israeli occupation. They are citizens of the PA and have all the rights and responsibilities the PA allows them.
Are you arguing the PA represents a sovereign state?
Mandate Palestine 1948.
650,000 Jews.
1.2 million Arabs and others.
One third of the population inflicted a Jewish state by force of arms upon the majority of Palestinians, purging over 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts.
A slogan, not an idea.
It is a matter of history.
And the PA has all the "rights and responsibilities" that Israel allows.No Palestinian Arabs are living under Israeli occupation. They are citizens of the PA and have all the rights and responsibilities the PA allows them.
Are you arguing the PA represents a sovereign state?
More bullshit. With regard to its citizens, the PA passes whatever laws it wants.
