Israel's Stranglehold on US Politics

Why do you imagine that Israel has to accept a non-Jewish minority at all?

Because 25% of their population is currently Arab and there are 23 million Palestinians in the West Bank. The Israeli government wants the land...not so much the people

so? Maldives had a non muslim population too-----but that country passed a law limiting
citizenship to MUSLIMS ONLY---------there is a precedent. Indonesia provides no citizenship
for jews------there is a list of persons of "ACCEPTABLE RELIGIONS" and Judaism is not on it.
Indonesia once had a substantial jewish miniority and some synagogues-----all of those were
destroyed-----SEE? there are precedents in the lands of "allah"
So you're finding ways to defend Israel's actions because someone else does it?

Oh...

I am presenting the CONTEXT-----of the situation----try to keep in mind that jews were
in the LEVANT----when muslims invaded, committed genocide and oppressed. Even today---
more than half the jews living in Israel NOW-----have RECENT background in lands overtaken
by muslims------my very own hubby was born a DHIMMI in a sharia shithole. In CONTEXT---jews
are asserting rights TODAY that were denied them YESTERDAY----mostly by arab muslims
 
I am presenting the CONTEXT-----of the situation----try to keep in mind that jews were
in the LEVANT----when muslims invaded, committed genocide and oppressed. Even today---
more than half the jews living in Israel NOW-----have RECENT background in lands overtaken
by muslims------my very own hubby was born a DHIMMI in a sharia shithole. In CONTEXT---jews
are asserting rights TODAY that were denied them YESTERDAY----mostly by arab muslims
There's a new song about that ( sort of) ....
 
what is "Palestine" ?
"The first appearance of the term 'Palestine' was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.[7]"

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia

so true------Herodotus named a stretch of land with a greek word. The people who lived
there had nothing to do with it. Arabs have lots of trouble pronouncing it. When written
in Hebrew-----it is obviously a FOREIGN word. "Phoenicia" is ----for greeks----the lands
along the Mediterranean which is today----very approximately, Lebanon. When the romans
invaded-----they like to use the word 'palestina' to refer to the same place they also called
'Judea' Arab muslims decided to adopt the moniker "Palestinian"----sometime in the 1960s
as a fraudulent way of claiming Judea. Before the 1960s-----the term "Palestinian" referred
to JEWS, ONLY

The Romans actually used the Word Palestine and Palestinian to separate The Jews Historical Relationship with The Promise Land which we call Israel. That is a fact.

It was a conscious effort to marginalize The Hebrews, and was at the time considered a Racial Slur, an Insult to call a Jew, or Hebrew, or Israeli, however you would like to classify that as a Palestinian. To call Israel Palestine was an intentional insult towards the Hebrews who preferred at the time to be called Israel or Hebrews.

It was at the time the equivalent of calling a black man The "N" Word, only it was a more generalized derogatory term.

The word Palestine and Palestinian is still used today exactly the way The Romans used it. To marginalize The Hebrews Historical Connection to The Promised Land, and to Separate them historically from Israel.

all true------but for the WORLD---for about the past 2000 years "Palestinian" meant "jew"
 
Why do you imagine that Israel has to accept a non-Jewish minority at all?

Because 25% of their population is currently Arab and there are 23 million Palestinians in the West Bank. The Israeli government wants the land...not so much the people

so? Maldives had a non muslim population too-----but that country passed a law limiting
citizenship to MUSLIMS ONLY---------there is a precedent. Indonesia provides no citizenship
for jews------there is a list of persons of "ACCEPTABLE RELIGIONS" and Judaism is not on it.
Indonesia once had a substantial jewish miniority and some synagogues-----all of those were
destroyed-----SEE? there are precedents in the lands of "allah"
So you're finding ways to defend Israel's actions because someone else does it?

Oh...

I am presenting the CONTEXT-----of the situation----try to keep in mind that jews were
in the LEVANT----when muslims invaded, committed genocide and oppressed. Even today---
more than half the jews living in Israel NOW-----have RECENT background in lands overtaken
by muslims------my very own hubby was born a DHIMMI in a sharia shithole. In CONTEXT---jews
are asserting rights TODAY that were denied them YESTERDAY----mostly by arab muslims
Yea..that's all interesting ...and in the current discussion, meaningless

Reality is a tough concept for some people but we live in the rel world so...

Israel exists. They have a right to exist

So too do the Palestinians

In the real world how do we reconcile those two facts?

That's ALL that matters
 
Yea..that's all interesting ...and in the current discussion, meaningless[.]

Reality is a tough concept for some people but we live in the rel [SIC] world so...

Israel exists. They have a right to exist[.]

So too do the Palestinians[.]

In the real world how do we reconcile those two facts?

That's ALL that matters[.]

Yeah, good thinking. Reconciliation being the one issue they need to thwart in order to facilitate the ongoing land grab. And yet... This place being mostly a wasteland as it is, do you absolutely need to come across as just another semi-literate goof?
 
Yeah, good thinking. Reconciliation being the one issue they need to thwart in order to facilitate the ongoing land grab. And yet... This place being mostly a wasteland as it is, do you absolutely need to come across as just another semi-literate goof?

WTF is that even supposed to mean?

How am I a "semi-literate goof"

Are you saying that reconciliation is not possible or not a worthwhile goal?
 
Why do you imagine that Israel has to accept a non-Jewish minority at all?

Because 25% of their population is currently Arab and there are 23 million Palestinians in the West Bank. The Israeli government wants the land...not so much the people

so? Maldives had a non muslim population too-----but that country passed a law limiting
citizenship to MUSLIMS ONLY---------there is a precedent. Indonesia provides no citizenship
for jews------there is a list of persons of "ACCEPTABLE RELIGIONS" and Judaism is not on it.
Indonesia once had a substantial jewish miniority and some synagogues-----all of those were
destroyed-----SEE? there are precedents in the lands of "allah"
So you're finding ways to defend Israel's actions because someone else does it?

Oh...

I am presenting the CONTEXT-----of the situation----try to keep in mind that jews were
in the LEVANT----when muslims invaded, committed genocide and oppressed. Even today---
more than half the jews living in Israel NOW-----have RECENT background in lands overtaken
by muslims------my very own hubby was born a DHIMMI in a sharia shithole. In CONTEXT---jews
are asserting rights TODAY that were denied them YESTERDAY----mostly by arab muslims
Yea..that's all interesting ...and in the current discussion, meaningless

Reality is a tough concept for some people but we live in the rel world so...

Israel exists. They have a right to exist

So too do the Palestinians

In the real world how do we reconcile those two facts?

That's ALL that matters

right----THE REAL WORLD------in the REAL WORLD-----shariah shit countries STILL
EXIST. In the REAL world, muslims still impose that sort of filth on non muslims ----
an interesting anecdote------you may not be familiar with people from the muzzie world and
southeast asia.------I am. I learned from southeast Asian muzzies ---HOW GLORIOUS is
islam as opposed to Hinduism----because hindus have a caste system. Very Recently----in the
REAL WORLD------it has been ordered in the MODERN ISLAMIC STATE of PAKISTAN
(Pakistan ---literally means "pure state'----the STAN part implies ISLAMIC) ---that the only
people who can work as "sweepers"-------((another issue unknown to you))-----a "sweeper" is
euphemism for Untouchable----(the people who do the toilet and sewer cleaning) must be
non-muslims-----preferably Christians. (to wit dhimmis) THAT IS THE REAL WORLD
 
While I have no problem with the Israeli people, I don’t like our politicians are bought.

what you never hear from the western media but DO hear outside of Israel and outside the western controlled media is how the Israel government jails their own citizens in Israel who speak out against their government and want it reformed.Its pretty much that way here in the states as well.Like i said,you just dont hear it get reported it all. thank god for alternative media who are not controlled by the Loobyists groups because they are the ones that DO report that real news.
 
I guess US President Lyndon B Johnson should not have stopped Israel from conquering all it’s neighbors during the 1967 Six Day War.
Perhaps LBJ was more concerned with acquiring Egyptian oil fields?
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'But sir, it’s an American ship.' 'Never mind, hit her!' When Israel attacked USS Liberty

"The authors’ bottom line is that then-U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson was behind the attack, in an attempt to blame then-Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser – an excuse that would then enable the United States to join the Six-Day War."
Irrelevant.
 
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In his latest epistle, the Reverend Chris Hedges warns Israel and its apologists how misplaced charges of anti-Semitism will only expand the ranks of legitimate anti-Semites from the violent cults of far-right, White Christians to the hordes of radical Islam:

Israel’s Stranglehold on American Politics

"Twenty-four state governments’ passage of Israel lobby-backed legislation requiring their workers and contractors, under threat of dismissal, to sign a pro-Israel oath and promise not to support the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement is not an anti-Semitic trope.

"It is a fact.

"The shameless decision in 2014 by all 100 U.S. senators, including Bernie Sanders, to pass a Soviet-style plebiscite proposed by the Israel lobby to affirm Israel’s 'right to defend itself' during the 51 days it bombed and shelled homes, water treatment plants, power stations, hospitals and U.N. schools in Gaza, killing 2,251 Palestinians, including 551 children, is not an anti-Semitic trope.

"It is a fact."

The sole criterion of Israel and its lobby in determining who to support for US public office is identifying who backs the far-right agenda of the apartheid state of Israel and who does not.

"Genuine anti-Semitism is irrelevant"
Do you never cease from lying and damning your soul to Hell?

Israel has lived in The Promised Land for 4,000 years.
I wonder why most Israelis identify themselves as, Russians, Yemenis moroccans, Iraqis some have perfect new york accent lol.
There were Jews in the holy land ? Of course...most are now settled that are occupying Palestinian lands.

why do you wonder? I know lots of people in the USA who ID as ITALIANS, IRISHMEN,
and even SCOTS. I never met an Israeli with a "perfect" New York Accent. I am not even
sure what a "perfect" New York Accent is--------Brooklynites do not sound like Bronxites-----
and NO ONE sounds like a Queensite other than a dyed in the wool Queensite
 
Because 25% of their population is currently Arab and there are 23 million Palestinians in the West Bank. The Israeli government wants the land...not so much the people

so? Maldives had a non muslim population too-----but that country passed a law limiting
citizenship to MUSLIMS ONLY---------there is a precedent. Indonesia provides no citizenship
for jews------there is a list of persons of "ACCEPTABLE RELIGIONS" and Judaism is not on it.
Indonesia once had a substantial jewish miniority and some synagogues-----all of those were
destroyed-----SEE? there are precedents in the lands of "allah"
So you're finding ways to defend Israel's actions because someone else does it?

Oh...

I am presenting the CONTEXT-----of the situation----try to keep in mind that jews were
in the LEVANT----when muslims invaded, committed genocide and oppressed. Even today---
more than half the jews living in Israel NOW-----have RECENT background in lands overtaken
by muslims------my very own hubby was born a DHIMMI in a sharia shithole. In CONTEXT---jews
are asserting rights TODAY that were denied them YESTERDAY----mostly by arab muslims
Yea..that's all interesting ...and in the current discussion, meaningless

Reality is a tough concept for some people but we live in the rel world so...

Israel exists. They have a right to exist

So too do the Palestinians

In the real world how do we reconcile those two facts?

That's ALL that matters

right----THE REAL WORLD------in the REAL WORLD-----shariah shit countries STILL
EXIST. In the REAL world, muslims still impose that sort of filth on non muslims ----
an interesting anecdote------you may not be familiar with people from the muzzie world and
southeast asia.------I am. I learned from southeast Asian muzzies ---HOW GLORIOUS is
islam as opposed to Hinduism----because hindus have a caste system. Very Recently----in the
REAL WORLD------it has been ordered in the MODERN ISLAMIC STATE of PAKISTAN
(Pakistan ---literally means "pure state'----the STAN part implies ISLAMIC) ---that the only
people who can work as "sweepers"-------((another issue unknown to you))-----a "sweeper" is
euphemism for Untouchable----(the people who do the toilet and sewer cleaning) must be
non-muslims-----preferably Christians. (to wit dhimmis) THAT IS THE REAL WORLD
YOU are as bad as the WORST anti-semite out there
 
Here's the classic, historical account, still very much worth a read. It details the distorting, deleterious influence on U.S. foreign policy, and Middle East policy in particular.

This article provides the details as to how the "stranglehold" is being organized at the Congressional level, and the effort's pervasiveness.

The Lobby is quite proud of their influence. Just when someone not of their ranks points it out, all hell breaks loose. It goes without saying, not knowing the goings-on is not an option, even though it's just one, albeit very significant, part of many representatives failure faithfully to represent their constituents.
Nancy Pelosi: Even If America Falls, We Will Still Send Billions to Israel
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"In a recent IAC conference with Jewish senator Chuck Schumer and Israeli billionaire Haim Saban who runs Univision and many other media outlets, Nancy Pelosi made a statement that is leaving many Americans scratching their heads.

"Pelosi effectively said that even if America crumbles, we will continue our aid to Israel.

"Both Schumer and Pelosi have received millions from AIPAC and other Israel first political action committees."

As your first link points out, since 1976 the US has made Israel the largest annual recipient of direct economic and military assistance, receiving roughly one-fifty of the entire US foreign aid budget.

LRB · John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt · The Israel Lobby

"Washington also provides Israel with consistent diplomatic support.

"Since 1982, the US has vetoed 32 Security Council resolutions critical of Israel, more than the total number of vetoes cast by all the other Security Council members.

"It blocks the efforts of Arab states to put Israel’s nuclear arsenal on the IAEA’s agenda. The US comes to the rescue in wartime and takes Israel’s side when negotiating peace.

"The Nixon administration protected it from the threat of Soviet intervention and resupplied it during the October War. Washington was deeply involved in the negotiations that ended that war, as well as in the lengthy ‘step-by-step’ process that followed, just as it played a key role in the negotiations that preceded and followed the 1993 Oslo Accords.

"In each case there was occasional friction between US and Israeli officials, but the US consistently supported the Israeli position. One American participant at Camp David in 2000 later said: ‘Far too often, we functioned … as Israel’s lawyer.’

"Finally, the Bush administration’s ambition to transform the Middle East is at least partly aimed at improving Israel’s strategic situation."
 
what is "Palestine" ?
"The first appearance of the term 'Palestine' was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.[7]"

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia

so true------Herodotus named a stretch of land with a greek word. The people who lived
there had nothing to do with it. Arabs have lots of trouble pronouncing it. When written
in Hebrew-----it is obviously a FOREIGN word. "Phoenicia" is ----for greeks----the lands
along the Mediterranean which is today----very approximately, Lebanon. When the romans
invaded-----they like to use the word 'palestina' to refer to the same place they also called
'Judea' Arab muslims decided to adopt the moniker "Palestinian"----sometime in the 1960s
as a fraudulent way of claiming Judea. Before the 1960s-----the term "Palestinian" referred
to JEWS, ONLY
Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia

"The term 'Peleset' (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from circa 1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt.

"The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,[2][3] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset's Statue.

"The Assyrians called the same region "Palashtu/Palastu" or "Pilistu", beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c. 800 BC through to an Esarhaddon treaty more than a century later.[4][5] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.["
 
Here are the Biblical Borders of The Promised Land as given to Abraham in the Abrahamic Covenant with Yahweh

Biblical Boundaries of the Land of Israel - The Israel Bible

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And here is Israel as defined by International Treaty since 1917.

Those treaties restrict Israel to a narrow strip of land and have designated everything East of The River Jordan for the so called Palestinians as their homeland, and everything West of The River Jordan to The Mediterranean as the homeland of Israel.

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Those treaties restrict Israel to a narrow strip of land and have designated everything East of The River Jordan for the so called Palestinians as their homeland, and everything West of The River Jordan to The Mediterranean as the homeland of Israel.
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Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

"The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during World War I announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. It read:

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Note how the Balfour Declaration proposes a Jewish "homeland" in Palestine (not a Jewish state}, and specifically prohibits any prejudice towards non-Jewish communities in Palestine which outnumbered Jews by a 10:1 margin at that time.
 

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