Issues

[Coyote]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

 

[Bleipriester]

Looks like this is all about abortion here. Heck, I get jailed, when I stab a child!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

How would we really know Hillary's stance on the issues....given she has been caught telling people she has public and private stances on issues. It's just more pandering from her, you may not like Trump's brashness and non PC but the bottom line is he's a change and Hillary is only going to continue Obama's BS....eight years of that crap is enough

 

[Coyote]

Another important issue for me is Environment.

Trump

• Eminent domain is something you need very strongly. (Feb 2016)
• Cut the EPA; what they do is a disgrace. (Oct 2015)
• Eminent domain pays more than fair market value. (Oct 2015)
• Eminent domain is a very useful tool for job creation. (Oct 2015)
• My sons love trophy hunting, but I'm not a believer. (Sep 2015)
• Won't go to circuses that cut elephants due to animal rights. (Mar 2015)
• Partner with environmentalists when undertaking projects. (Apr 2010)
• Good development enhances the environment. (Jan 2008)
• Asbestos got a bad rap from miners & mob-led movement. (Oct 1997)
• Asbestos got a bad rap from miners & mob-led movement. (Oct 1997)
• Humiliated NYC Mayor by finishing ice rink on time on budget. (Oct 1997)
• Bureaucratic land use reviews make projects unbuildable. (Oct 1997)
• FactCheck: Yes, hybrid family vehicles are available in US
  

On this - Trump loses me on some, but I agree with on others. The abuse of elephants in circus is well documented - these highly intelligent and endangered animals need our protection, not abuse. Asbestos got a bad rap? WTF? It's bad stuff.

Now - two things I agree on: "Good development (can) enhances the environment" and "Partner with environmentalists when undertaking projects". Often the most successful enviornmental protections come from partnering with ranchers, developers, etc to help them realize that there is value in preserving wetlands, or setting aside conservation areas and that it CAN be done in conjunction with their livelihoods - it does not have to be adversarial. Nature Conservancy is an organization that is strong in this, and which I support.

Clinton

• We need green energy jobs & to build on Paris Agreement. (Mar 2016)
• Federal takeover of Flint water supply if state can't fix it. (Feb 2016)
• FactCheck: No, Hillary didn't grant eminent domain to China. (Mar 2009)
• $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package. (Jan 2008)
• Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain. (Jan 2008)
• A comprehensive energy plan as our Apollo moon shot. (Jan 2008)
• Advocate a cap and trade system. (Dec 2007)
• Better track kids’ products for exposures to toxic materials. (Dec 2007)
• Support green-collar job training. (Aug 2007)
• Launched EPA study of air quality at Ground Zero. (Jun 2007)
• Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection. (Jan 2007)
• Stands for clean air and funding the EPA. (Sep 2000)
• Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health. (Jun 1998)
• Voted YES on including oil & gas smokestacks in mercury regulations. (Sep 2005)
• Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles. (Apr 2001)
• Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
• EPA must do better on mercury clean-up. (Apr 2004)
• Sponsored bill for tax credit to remove lead-based paint. (Nov 2005)
• Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act. (Apr 2008)
• Inter-state compact for Great Lakes water resources. (Jul 2008)
• Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting. (Jan 2007)

Clinton's record is lengthy - and much of it I support. Part of her record also ties in to children's issues - lead paint, Flint clean water etc. I would like to know more about how somethings would be paid for (dredging the Hudson) - but I agree with the positions. I would like to see all animal fighting prohibited.

 

[Coyote]

Looks like this is all about abortion here. Heck, I get jailed, when I stab a child!

That just happened to be the first one - I'll try to hit on all if I can

 

[OldLady]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.

With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

I look at it this way and that is if you vote for either Trump or Clinton then you are picking the two worst choices out there.

I would vote for Jill Stein before voting for Clinton if Johnson was not running. Also as you try to paint your candidate as the better choice the reality she was not a great First Lady, Senator nor Secretary of State and hell John Kerry has been better than her when it come to Senator and Secretary of State.

So the choice is simple and if you can not stomach either Trump or Clinton then vote for Stein or Johnson, and before you comment on Johnson brain farts, well at least he does not chase pussy nor does he pretend he is perfect like the top two candidates!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.

With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

SCOTUS and Obamacare.....nuff said

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

As a white male....

As a white castrated male to clarify. Continue.....

 

[Fenton Lum]

Looks like this is all about abortion here. Heck, I get jailed, when I stab a child!

Well stop! Immediately!

 

[Fenton Lum]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.

With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

SCOTUS and Obamacare.....nuff said

You mean HeritageFoundationCare love. That's who hatched that plan.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Actually the issues that are the most relevant to the voters are:

Your issue is next to the last on the minds of the citizens of this country. That doesn't mean it isn't important, but it is not as pressing as the others. Trump leads in the top issues.
And yes, Bill is running. Hitlery has already told us since he did so "well" with NAFTA, she's wants to put him in charge of redistributing our wealth to the Pacific rim and beyond...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.

With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

SCOTUS and Obamacare.....nuff said

You mean HeritageFoundationCare love. That's who hatched that plan.

Woooosh right over your head......again. Cease bothering me ya old troll

 

[Tom Horn]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

Mod Edit -- Tom Horn Open threads are no place to discuss moderation gripes. Please contact another mod for review. FlaCalTenn

As to Clinton's record on women's rights, she's done NOTHING, ZIP, either as a bickering, lamp-throwing shrew as first lady, a zero as a carpetbagging senator from New York, or a secretary of state, an office she used to traffic in sensitive intel in exchange for speaking fees. She is a criminal and a hideous woman who's concern for other women is clearly demonstrated by her treatment of Willy's rape victims.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Actually the issues that are the most relevant to the voters are:

Your issue is next to the last on the minds of the citizens of this country. That doesn't mean it isn't important, but it is not as pressing as the others. Trump leads in the top issues.
And yes, Bill is running. Hitlery has already told us since he did so "well" with NAFTA, she's wants to put him in charge of redistributing our wealth to the Pacific rim and beyond...

All the while, regardless of which personalites the public fawns over at the moment, the redistribution of wealth out of american socliety as a whole and into the pockets of fewer and fewer of the substantial people continues unabated as it has for about a half century now.

 

[Fenton Lum]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.

With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

SCOTUS and Obamacare.....nuff said

You mean HeritageFoundationCare love. That's who hatched that plan.

Woooosh right over your head......again. Cease bothering me ya old troll

Your "comments" never address anything at all love.

 

[Fenton Lum]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

Your views are reflected in your role as a mod here since several of my threads on relevant subjects have been merged with leftist threads with far less response or tossed into the Rubber Room for no reason other than you disagree with them. As to Clinton's record on women's rights, she's done NOTHING, ZIP, either as a bickering, lamp-throwing shrew as first lady, a zero as a carpetbagging senator from New York, or a secretary of state, an office she used to traffic in sensitive intel in exchange for speaking fees. She is a criminal and a hideous woman who's concern for other women is clearly demonstrated by her treatment of Willy's rape victims.

Kudos on the rant/screed, but you might want to consider taking a lesson in how to flesh out a concept, break it down, and support that from the poster you're responding to.

 

[Coyote]

How would we really know Hillary's stance on the issues....given she has been caught telling people she has public and private stances on issues. It's just more pandering from her, you may not like Trump's brashness and non PC but the bottom line is he's a change and Hillary is only going to continue Obama's BS....eight years of that crap is enough

She does have a voting record, and it shows some consistencies so I think we can go by that.

 

[jon_berzerk]

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:

• Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
• Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
• Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
• Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)

Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.

• I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
• Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
• Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
• I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
• I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
• I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
• Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
• Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.

• It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
• Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
• Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
• Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
• Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
• Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
• We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
• Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
• Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
• Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)

Contraception

• Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
• 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
• Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
• Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
• Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
• Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)

Voting Record

• Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
• Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
• Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
• Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
• Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
• Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP.
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions
Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime.

wow

you support that