Issues

You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:
  • Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
  • Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
  • Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
  • Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.
  • I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
  • Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
  • Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
  • I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
  • I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
  • I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
  • Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
  • Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.
  • It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
  • Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
  • Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
  • Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
  • Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
  • Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
  • We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
  • Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
  • Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
  • Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)


Contraception

  • Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
  • 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
  • Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
  • Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
  • Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
  • Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record
  • Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
  • Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
  • Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
  • Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
  • Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
  • Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
  • Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)



On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.
As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.
With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

The SCOTUS is not always predictable like people seem to think, and that is a good thing because it means they aren't making decisions on purely partisan positions.
 
How would we really know Hillary's stance on the issues....given she has been caught telling people she has public and private stances on issues. It's just more pandering from her, you may not like Trump's brashness and non PC but the bottom line is he's a change and Hillary is only going to continue Obama's BS....eight years of that crap is enough

She does have a voting record, and it shows some consistencies so I think we can go by that.

I went with she's corrupt to the core, a liar, an enabler to her husband's assault on women, a piss poor Sec of State and in reality has never accomplished a damn thing in her life other than marrying Bill Clinton and riding his coat tails....which explains the enabling
 
Abortion & Climate are your top concerns?

With all the pressing issues we have and that's it? Good grief
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Both candidates suck, but Hillary wanting to do a Merkel by flooding this country with Arab misogynists is not exactly about women's rights.
 
You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:
  • Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
  • Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
  • Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
  • Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.
  • I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
  • Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
  • Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
  • I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
  • I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
  • I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
  • Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
  • Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.
  • It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
  • Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
  • Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
  • Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
  • Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
  • Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
  • We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
  • Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
  • Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
  • Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)


Contraception

  • Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
  • 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
  • Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
  • Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
  • Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
  • Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record
  • Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
  • Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
  • Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
  • Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
  • Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
  • Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
  • Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)



On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP.
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions
Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime.

wow

you support that

An unborn child is an unborn child - why should it be eligable for SCHIP- at this point it's only a potential. The mother is eligible for pregnancy benefits that takes care of both.

On notifying parents - that is a hard one. There are many parents who would harm, disown, or refuse an abortion to a pregnant minor...should they be notified.

On criminal penalty for harming an unborn fetus - that is a can of worms. Once you start giving rights to fetus' - then it could enroach on the mother's rights. I am very leary of that. But some states do have penalties for it.
 
Abortion & Climate are your top concerns?

With all the pressing issues we have and that's it? Good grief

They're pretty important to me. You may have other issues you see as more important.
 
Another important issue for me is Environment.

Trump
  • Eminent domain is something you need very strongly. (Feb 2016)
  • Cut the EPA; what they do is a disgrace. (Oct 2015)
  • Eminent domain pays more than fair market value. (Oct 2015)
  • Eminent domain is a very useful tool for job creation. (Oct 2015)
  • My sons love trophy hunting, but I'm not a believer. (Sep 2015)
  • Won't go to circuses that cut elephants due to animal rights. (Mar 2015)
  • Partner with environmentalists when undertaking projects. (Apr 2010)
  • Good development enhances the environment. (Jan 2008)
  • Asbestos got a bad rap from miners & mob-led movement. (Oct 1997)
  • Asbestos got a bad rap from miners & mob-led movement. (Oct 1997)
  • Humiliated NYC Mayor by finishing ice rink on time on budget. (Oct 1997)
  • Bureaucratic land use reviews make projects unbuildable. (Oct 1997)
  • FactCheck: Yes, hybrid family vehicles are available in US
On this - Trump loses me on some, but I agree with on others. The abuse of elephants in circus is well documented - these highly intelligent and endangered animals need our protection, not abuse. Asbestos got a bad rap? WTF? It's bad stuff.

Now - two things I agree on: "Good development (can) enhances the environment" and "Partner with environmentalists when undertaking projects". Often the most successful enviornmental protections come from partnering with ranchers, developers, etc to help them realize that there is value in preserving wetlands, or setting aside conservation areas and that it CAN be done in conjunction with their livelihoods - it does not have to be adversarial. Nature Conservancy is an organization that is strong in this, and which I support.

Clinton
  • We need green energy jobs & to build on Paris Agreement. (Mar 2016)
  • Federal takeover of Flint water supply if state can't fix it. (Feb 2016)
  • FactCheck: No, Hillary didn't grant eminent domain to China. (Mar 2009)
  • $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package. (Jan 2008)
  • Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain. (Jan 2008)
  • A comprehensive energy plan as our Apollo moon shot. (Jan 2008)
  • Advocate a cap and trade system. (Dec 2007)
  • Better track kids’ products for exposures to toxic materials. (Dec 2007)
  • Support green-collar job training. (Aug 2007)
  • Launched EPA study of air quality at Ground Zero. (Jun 2007)
  • Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection. (Jan 2007)
  • Stands for clean air and funding the EPA. (Sep 2000)
  • Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health. (Jun 1998)
  • Voted YES on including oil & gas smokestacks in mercury regulations. (Sep 2005)
  • Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles. (Apr 2001)
  • Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
  • EPA must do better on mercury clean-up. (Apr 2004)
  • Sponsored bill for tax credit to remove lead-based paint. (Nov 2005)
  • Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act. (Apr 2008)
  • Inter-state compact for Great Lakes water resources. (Jul 2008)
  • Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting. (Jan 2007)

Clinton's record is lengthy - and much of it I support. Part of her record also ties in to children's issues - lead paint, Flint clean water etc. I would like to know more about how somethings would be paid for (dredging the Hudson) - but I agree with the positions. I would like to see all animal fighting prohibited.

I got some problems with the Clinton record here. Don't KNOW if Trump really knows anything about the issue other than what Sean Hannity tells him.

1) The largest current DANGEROUS enviro disaster in US was caused by FED govt at their nuclear weapons plants in the 60s/70s. There are THOUSANDS of leaking barrels of nuclear waste at Savannah River, Hanford and other sites. No clean-up plan on the horizon. This is why OPPOSING a national nuclear waste site that was PROMISED at Yucca Mtn is stupid. Almost as stupid as not planning for the BILLIONS of pounds of recycled and smash Lithium batteries from all the EVehicles that are being pushed.

2) Tossing money at Green Jobs has already been tried for 8 yrs. The Feds are lousy at picking market winners and losers and have lost TONS of tax money on their stupid bets. The problem there is that wind and solar are MATURE technologies, and do not require a lot of "general research" grants. They are now commodity items sold mainly on price. And in ADDITION that are not "alternatives" to reliable 24/7/365 power. When the nation is less scared by nuclear than they are by Global Warming -- I'll believe in efforts to reduce CO2. Because nuclear is the clearest path to that goal. IF -- indeed you want to believe the over-hyped 1980s GW projections that have constantly been being revised DOWNwards with little notice by the press and panicked herd.
 
You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:
  • Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
  • Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
  • Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
  • Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.
  • I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
  • Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
  • Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
  • I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
  • I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
  • I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
  • Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
  • Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.
  • It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
  • Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
  • Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
  • Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
  • Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
  • Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
  • We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
  • Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
  • Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
  • Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)


Contraception

  • Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
  • 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
  • Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
  • Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
  • Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
  • Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record
  • Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
  • Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
  • Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
  • Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
  • Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
  • Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
  • Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)



On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.

Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP.
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions
Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime.

wow

you support that

An unborn child is an unborn child - why should it be eligable for SCHIP- at this point it's only a potential. The mother is eligible for pregnancy benefits that takes care of both.

On notifying parents - that is a hard one. There are many parents who would harm, disown, or refuse an abortion to a pregnant minor...should they be notified.

On criminal penalty for harming an unborn fetus - that is a can of worms. Once you start giving rights to fetus' - then it could enroach on the mother's rights. I am very leary of that. But some states do have penalties for it.


so a pregnant mother who is poor enough to have medical assistance

should have to come up with the funds should as you "unborn" need medical attention
 
Another important issue for me is Environment.

Trump
  • Eminent domain is something you need very strongly. (Feb 2016)
  • Cut the EPA; what they do is a disgrace. (Oct 2015)
  • Eminent domain pays more than fair market value. (Oct 2015)
  • Eminent domain is a very useful tool for job creation. (Oct 2015)
  • My sons love trophy hunting, but I'm not a believer. (Sep 2015)
  • Won't go to circuses that cut elephants due to animal rights. (Mar 2015)
  • Partner with environmentalists when undertaking projects. (Apr 2010)
  • Good development enhances the environment. (Jan 2008)
  • Asbestos got a bad rap from miners & mob-led movement. (Oct 1997)
  • Asbestos got a bad rap from miners & mob-led movement. (Oct 1997)
  • Humiliated NYC Mayor by finishing ice rink on time on budget. (Oct 1997)
  • Bureaucratic land use reviews make projects unbuildable. (Oct 1997)
  • FactCheck: Yes, hybrid family vehicles are available in US
On this - Trump loses me on some, but I agree with on others. The abuse of elephants in circus is well documented - these highly intelligent and endangered animals need our protection, not abuse. Asbestos got a bad rap? WTF? It's bad stuff.

Now - two things I agree on: "Good development (can) enhances the environment" and "Partner with environmentalists when undertaking projects". Often the most successful enviornmental protections come from partnering with ranchers, developers, etc to help them realize that there is value in preserving wetlands, or setting aside conservation areas and that it CAN be done in conjunction with their livelihoods - it does not have to be adversarial. Nature Conservancy is an organization that is strong in this, and which I support.

Clinton
  • We need green energy jobs & to build on Paris Agreement. (Mar 2016)
  • Federal takeover of Flint water supply if state can't fix it. (Feb 2016)
  • FactCheck: No, Hillary didn't grant eminent domain to China. (Mar 2009)
  • $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package. (Jan 2008)
  • Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain. (Jan 2008)
  • A comprehensive energy plan as our Apollo moon shot. (Jan 2008)
  • Advocate a cap and trade system. (Dec 2007)
  • Better track kids’ products for exposures to toxic materials. (Dec 2007)
  • Support green-collar job training. (Aug 2007)
  • Launched EPA study of air quality at Ground Zero. (Jun 2007)
  • Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection. (Jan 2007)
  • Stands for clean air and funding the EPA. (Sep 2000)
  • Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health. (Jun 1998)
  • Voted YES on including oil & gas smokestacks in mercury regulations. (Sep 2005)
  • Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles. (Apr 2001)
  • Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
  • EPA must do better on mercury clean-up. (Apr 2004)
  • Sponsored bill for tax credit to remove lead-based paint. (Nov 2005)
  • Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act. (Apr 2008)
  • Inter-state compact for Great Lakes water resources. (Jul 2008)
  • Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting. (Jan 2007)

Clinton's record is lengthy - and much of it I support. Part of her record also ties in to children's issues - lead paint, Flint clean water etc. I would like to know more about how somethings would be paid for (dredging the Hudson) - but I agree with the positions. I would like to see all animal fighting prohibited.

Here is the question I present to all environmentalists: When is enough enough?

Nobody can seem to answer that question, because environmental protection is like a bottomless pit. No amount of money in the world will ever fill it up.

I remember as a child when I realized what was happening. My father built a new house for us and he installed an incinerator. You could put all your burnable garbage in it and burn it away. It wasn't long until they made a law against using incinerators, and my father eventually took it out.

Then was the lead in gasoline thing. Then lead in paint. And on, and on, and on, and on.

That was back in the 60's and 70's, and environmentalists are less happy today then they were back then.

These environmental regulations cost all of us money, it's just that we don't realize it because the costs are intrinsic in the products we buy. Every product in and outside of your home has an environmental cost to it. I know, because I'm a truck driver, and the newer regulations on our industry has cost my employer hundreds of thousands of dollars that of course, he had to pass on to our customers who make the products we buy in the store.

So I came up with idea that I got (believe it or not) from Michelle Obama. She had her husband force restaurants to have calorie count on every item they sell. Why can't we do the same with environmental costs?

In my opinion, every product should be required to post the environmental cost on the packaging. If you want cleaner air and cleaner water, then you should know how much you're paying for it now before you make a decision on what to support. Then ask people if they think we need more costly regulations.
 
You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:
  • Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
  • Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
  • Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
  • Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.
  • I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
  • Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
  • Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
  • I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
  • I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
  • I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
  • Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
  • Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.
  • It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
  • Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
  • Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
  • Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
  • Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
  • Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
  • We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
  • Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
  • Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
  • Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)


Contraception

  • Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
  • 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
  • Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
  • Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
  • Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
  • Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record
  • Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
  • Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
  • Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
  • Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
  • Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
  • Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
  • Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)



On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.
As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.
With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

SCOTUS and Obamacare.....nuff said
Thank you for the perfect example of my point. Since that ruling came down when there was a 5/4 majority of supposed "conservatives" including the revered Antonin Scalia.
 
Here´s more stuff.

Where Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump stand on foreign-policy issues

So Hillary wants to destroy ISIS. But she was SoS when al-Qaeda/ISIS took over Libya with Nato aircover and tried the same in Syria and Iraq.


As for the foreign policy, I hope Trump was serious when he said:
“We will not be ripped off anymore. We’re going to be friendly with everybody,
but we’re not going to be taken advantage of by anybody.”
Transcript: Donald Trump Expounds on His Foreign Policy Views
 
You know...those things that define a candidates position and persuade us to vote for one or the other...

We seem to have forgotten about them in pages of nonsense, tripe, gutter-mongering and knee-jerk defenses of the indefensible. We seem incapable of moving on.

Are we voting for the least loathsome based on media-determined moral character? Who cares really? Donald Trump IS a mysoganist. Deal with it. Bill Clinton is NOT running for office. Get over it. Hillary has some serious ethics issues. We get it.

Who's best for office based on issues, experience and temperment?

It's tough to pin The Donald down on issues because he's so distractable.

So...here are the candidates on the issues that are important to ME.

Sources
Donald Trump on the Issues
Hillary Clinton on the Issues

Abortion: I support a woman's right to choose with some restrictions (in the third trimester, it should be restricted but never fully illegal). I strongly support access to contraception, quality sex education, and emergency "morning after" pills.

Trump:
  • Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood, but defund it. (Feb 2016)
  • Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)
  • Defund Planned Parenthood. (Oct 2015)
  • Planned Parenthood is important, but abortions must stop. (Aug 2015)
Planned Parenthood does a lot of good work for women far beyond access to abortion. So, defunding it (particularly given the right wants to continue funding religiously-based pregnancy centers) is a no-go for me.
  • I have evolved on abortion issue, like Reagan evolved. (Aug 2015)
  • Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
  • Undecided on embryonic stem cell research. (Apr 2011)
  • I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
  • I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
  • I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
  • Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
  • Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
On this, he's all over the board...what IS his position? I suspect his personal position is in conflict with the party position. This will likely be more troubling to evangelical voters. Unfortunately all we have to go on with Trump is his words. Hillary offers a lengthy public service record.

Clinton

Clinton's positions on abortion and contraception mirror my own and have been consistent.
  • It's big government to intervene on woman's right to choose. (Oct 2015)
  • Make abortion rare by supporting adoption & foster care. (Apr 2008)
  • Potential for life begins at conception, but don’t intrude. (Apr 2008)
  • Opposed China’s forced abortion & Romania’s forced pregnancy. (Apr 2008)
  • Long-held moderate stance focuses on reducing abortions. (Mar 2008)
  • Government should have no role in abortion decision. (Oct 2005)
  • We can find common ground on abortion issue. (Sep 2005)
  • Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk. (Oct 2000)
  • Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. (Jan 1999)
  • Reach out to teens to reduce teen sex problems. (Jan 1999)


Contraception

  • Hobby Lobby decision is slippery slope against women. (Jun 2014)
  • 1993 health plan included RU-486 & widely available abortion. (Jul 2007)
  • Fought for years to get “Plan B” contraceptive on the market. (Dec 2006)
  • Prevention First Act: federal funds for contraception. (Oct 2006)
  • Advocates birth control but OK with faith-based disagreement. (Nov 2003)
  • Supports parental notice & family planning. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record
  • Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus. (Oct 2005)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
  • Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
  • Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
  • Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
  • Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims. (Sep 2006)
  • Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
  • Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
  • Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)



On this issue, which is pretty important to me as a woman - Clinton's record speaks for itself.
As a white male I might not be adversely affected by Trump Supreme Court appointments hostile to the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of African-Americans, but my rights and protected liberties would be jeopardized nonetheless.

How secure I am in my civil rights and protected liberties is predicated on how secure the civil rights and protected liberties are of other Americans, particularly Americans who are neither white nor male.
With all due respect, Republicans and conservatives are making a HUUGGE deal out of the SCOTUS picks as if it really made a difference. Are you folks forgetting that many decisions you hate were made by your supposedly conservative Supreme Court? I have enough respect for these judges to believe they make their decisions based on the law, not their personal politics. Their own viewpoints should be a minor consideration, imo. The law can be interpreted in different ways, yes, but it is not supposed to be at heart a political appointment and it shouldn't be viewed as if that's ALL it is.

SCOTUS and Obamacare.....nuff said
Thank you for the perfect example of my point. Since that ruling came down when there was a 5/4 majority of supposed "conservatives" including the revered Antonin Scalia.

My point is the POS bill should have never been passed and it wouldn't have if Congress had actually read the damn thing. Then SCOTUS adds insult to injury by upholding it....I still wonder what made Roberts do the 180
 
Here is the question I present to all environmentalists: When is enough enough?

Nobody can seem to answer that question, because environmental protection is like a bottomless pit. No amount of money in the world will ever fill it up.

I remember as a child when I realized what was happening. My father built a new house for us and he installed an incinerator. You could put all your burnable garbage in it and burn it away. It wasn't long until they made a law against using incinerators, and my father eventually took it out.

Then was the lead in gasoline thing. Then lead in paint. And on, and on, and on, and on.

That was back in the 60's and 70's, and environmentalists are less happy today then they were back then.

These environmental regulations cost all of us money, it's just that we don't realize it because the costs are intrinsic in the products we buy. Every product in and outside of your home has an environmental cost to it. I know, because I'm a truck driver, and the newer regulations on our industry has cost my employer hundreds of thousands of dollars that of course, he had to pass on to our customers who make the products we buy in the store.

So I came up with idea that I got (believe it or not) from Michelle Obama. She had her husband force restaurants to have calorie count on every item they sell. Why can't we do the same with environmental costs?

In my opinion, every product should be required to post the environmental cost on the packaging. If you want cleaner air and cleaner water, then you should know how much you're paying for it now before you make a decision on what to support. Then ask people if they think we need more costly regulations.

Exactly! We now have a fourth branch of government...UNelected EPA/BLM bureaucrats deciding everything from food content, to what is a pond and what is a river, grazing rights, what kind of paint and pipe are in our homes, whether our firearms are loaded or locked away in a safe, what our kids can say or pray about in school.....the time for this to STOP is NOW. And a woman proposing "open borders" and amnesty for criminal aliens is about the last thing this country can absorb without falling apart into civil war.
 
Families and Children

Trump

  • Hillary and I agree on paid family leave. (Sep 2016)
  • Federal tax breaks to support child care costs. (Aug 2016)
  • Happiest people have great families & God in their lives. (Nov 2015)
  • Stress importance of a strong family, & a culture of Life. (Jun 2015)

Clinton
  • US needs paid family leave, to join rest of the world. (Oct 2015)
  • Design paid-leave system that doesn't burden small business. (Oct 2015)
  • Our generation is blessed by extra years with aging parents. (May 2014)
  • 1980s: her church founded largest daycare in Arkansas. (Jul 2007)
  • Family planning & child spacing is international human right. (Jul 2007)
  • Caution in treating preschoolers with psychiatric drugs. (Mar 2000)
  • Send message: It is the job of children to learn. (Jul 1999)
  • Help “sandwiched” parents care for elderly plus kids. (Jan 1999)
  • More funds for after-school programs. (Nov 1998)

  • Child Law
  • Served as chairman of the Children's Defense Fund. (Oct 2007)
  • Support new parents to promote healthy child development. (Sep 2007)
  • For teens, not about birth control, but about self-control. (Jul 2007)
  • 1970s: “I want to be a voice for America’s children”. (Jun 2007)
  • Supported foster care adoptions as First Lady & as Senator. (Dec 2006)
  • Leave politics out of Elian decision. (Apr 2000)
  • Governments can’t love child; but it can help families. (Apr 2000)
  • Expand Family and Medical Leave Act. (Aug 1998)
  • Raised issues of maternity leave at 1980s Rose Law. (Nov 1997)
  • Family Leave Act is a good start; paid leave better. (Sep 1996)
  • Against social service agency interference in families. (Aug 1993)

Again - Hillary has a long record to judge by. Why is this an important issue? Because a lot of us are getting older and it's the younger generation that supports the older generation and pays into social security. People are living much longer, many people have aging parents to take care of. That means that not only is it the right thing to do - it's necessary. Jobs, family friendly policies that help young couples raise children and pursue a career, good educational services and healthcare all play into it. This is one issue Clinton has consistently worked on, prior to her public life.

It's unclear where Trump is on this because there really is no record to judge him by. I support paid family leave for both mothers and fathers. There are a variety of ways to do this, and small business will need some sort of assistance.
 
Abortion & Climate are your top concerns?

With all the pressing issues we have and that's it? Good grief

They're pretty important to me. You may have other issues you see as more important.
Russia
Debt
ISIS
Obamacare
Civil unrest
Illegal aliens
Spending

For leftists it's:

Unisex bathrooms
SSM
Abortion rights
Civil rights
Open borders
Climate Change
Entitlements

For the Reich, it's slogans.
 

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