It is just getting worse. the lies of 2006 have come full circle, time to own up libs

[JRK]

The only difference I can see between Bush/GOP and Obama/Democrats is...ObamaCare.

Seriously.

Nothing else has changed. Bush's domestic spying continues. Detainees are still in Gitmo. Muslims are still being killed by drones and US troops. Bush's wrecked economy is still wrecked.

The abortion rate is unchanged. Taxes went up for rich people a little bit. Waterboarding stopped, as far as we know. The too big to fail banks are even bigger. We bitch slapped Syria.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear there was a Republican in the White House right now.

what did GWB do to ruin the economy?
the UE rate was 5% until 08
it has been wrecked sense
And no there is a huge difference in a defict of 162 billion (last gop budget) and well over 1 trillion, every dem budget

Since. The word is since. Dammit!

And.....you are funny. You have the ability to skip shit. Cool.

explain to us what was skipped?
the 08 crash was a free market crash
see 9-11 caused a crash
we lost 3 million jobs in conjunction with BC recession early 2001

we gained those jobs plus 8 million more in the next 52 months
Why America Is Going To Miss The Bush Tax Cuts - Forbes
real job growth
not just catching up to jobs lost as BHO is doing
The proof is in the pudding over the Bush tax cuts. They were followed by a record 52 straight months of job creation, producing 8 million new jobs, with the unemployment rate falling to 4.4%. Business investment spending, which had declined for 9 straight quarters, reversed and increased 6.7% per quarter, producing all those new jobs.

 

[JRK]

Fed downgrades its outlook for US economy - Yahoo Finance
speaking of which

Pop the corks, boys! Bad news for Obama! Good news for nutjobs!

good news?
horse shit

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fed downgrades its outlook for US economy - Yahoo Finance
speaking of which

Pop the corks, boys! Bad news for Obama! Good news for nutjobs!

good news?
horse shit

Admit it. You are happy when the news on the economy is bad. Why not own it?

 

[rdean]

2006? Who controlled both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court? Whose policies had been in place for years? nuff said.

The last good year
exactly my point
it has went south sense

Yea, because on Monday, everything is perfect, but the next day, Tuesday, everything is rotten. What happens on Tuesday is completely unrelated to what went before. Is that what you are saying?

So the millions of jobs moved to China from 2001 to 2006 did nothing to hurt the economy. But the one job moved the very next day brought down the economy? The Bush tax cuts and the two unfunded wars created no deficit for years. But that one day, they created trillions?

Is there anything you guys won't believe? It's like the bottom half of the US has become concentrated into a single party. The "stupid" is shocking.

I want to hear these Republicans say the economy tanked in a single day.

 

[Antares]

America is coming back after the worst economic disaster, created by Bush and the far right wing of the GOP, in eighty years.

No more neo-conservatism, no more free-wheeling businesses.

More bullshit, the bubble started decades ago. Economists were predicting a crash of the magnitude of 2008 back in the 90's. you could not have a boom when stocks were 100's of time over inflated, you could not have people mortgaging 125-150% of their homes values, you could not have such over spending without a crash. The truth is both parties set this up for over 80 years and stupid people bury their head in the sand over the real facts.

Stop the lies. The GOP took over in 1994 and had complacent presidents for 12 years and only added fuel to the fire.

The neo-cons and corporatists have to stop the lies, because the American people know you folks are the responsible ones.

Poor Jake, try to protect Bammy at all costs...oh yes...try to protect Clinton/Frank/Dodd at all costs.

Sorry kid....the housing bubble that cause all of this is squarely at their feet.

 

[Freewill]

2006? Who controlled both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court? Whose policies had been in place for years? nuff said.

2006 was the start of the wreck of the economy. The democrats won both houses and the slide began. You can deny it but the democrats are at fault controlling at least 2/3s of the government for the last 13 years, all we on the right can do is laugh at your stupid defense. Your "it is everyone but us" defense is getting old, quite old.

 

[Freewill]

The only difference I can see between Bush/GOP and Obama/Democrats is...ObamaCare.

Seriously.

Nothing else has changed. Bush's domestic spying continues. Detainees are still in Gitmo. Muslims are still being killed by drones and US troops. Bush's wrecked economy is still wrecked.

The abortion rate is unchanged. Taxes went up for rich people a little bit. Waterboarding stopped, as far as we know. The too big to fail banks are even bigger. We bitch slapped Syria.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear there was a Republican in the White House right now.

It really illustrates just how radically liberal George W. Bush was - doesn't it?

If you didn't know better, you'd swear a Democrat occupied the White House from 2000 - 2008.

That is exactly why I never really like GWB, too liberal. I never really understood why the liberals hated him so he was one of them. I thought maybe it was because of the wars but by what we have seen lately we know they love war.

 

[Freewill]

Fed downgrades its outlook for US economy - Yahoo Finance
speaking of which

Pop the corks, boys! Bad news for Obama! Good news for nutjobs!

I see you are invoking the braying ass defense. Only a braying ass would suggest that economic downturn is anyone's desire. Just because it is reality and that reality is driven home to you every stinking day no one, NO ONE likes it.

So what is it with you liberals? Republican love the rich so much that they want economic down fall? That Republicans can't win an election but they control the whole country? What is wrong with liberals?

 

[P@triot]

Pop the corks, boys! Bad news for Obama! Good news for nutjobs!

good news?
horse shit

Admit it. You are happy when the news on the economy is bad. Why not own it?

That's the million dollar question LL - why not own it? Obama has collapsed America - yet he and you only want to blame Bush for Obama's failures. Why not own it?

You guys bankrupted Detroit. It's not a complete shit-hole which rivals 3rd world countries. Dilapidated buildings, homelessness, rampant narcotics, and the worst education. Why not own it?

You guys have California on the verge of collapse. It is $132 billion in debt and climbing. Gangs and violence are rampant, as is loss of electricity.Why not own it?

You guys have the U.S. on the fiscal cliff. Officially, the debt stands at over $16 trillion. However, an expert this week (ironically from the liberal shit-hole state of California) said the REAL debt of the U.S. stands at over $70 trillion. Why not own it?

Your liberal policy of socialism/marxism/communism/progressivism (you guys keep giving it a new name to mask it's previous disaster) has a failure rate of 100% world wide. Your "spread the wealth" stupidity collapsed the former U.S.S.R. It has Greece on the brink of collapse. Has left Cuba in a perpetual state of poverty for over 60 years. And has pushed the global economy to the brink. Why not own it?

Where ever liberals go, failure follows. Why not own it Lone Laugher?

 

[P@triot]

Fed downgrades its outlook for US economy - Yahoo Finance
speaking of which

Pop the corks, boys! Bad news for Obama! Good news for nutjobs!

I see you are invoking the braying ass defense. Only a braying ass would suggest that economic downturn is anyone's desire. Just because it is reality and that reality is driven home to you every stinking day no one, NO ONE likes it.

So what is it with you liberals? Republican love the rich so much that they want economic down fall? That Republicans can't win an election but they control the whole country? What is wrong with liberals?

 

[velvtacheeze]

It's no lie. GOP unified rule lasted all of a whopping six whole years before their policy mistakes, both foreign & domestic, started to inflict their damage.

The GOP majority was brought to a glorious end in 2006. Too bad the suffering under Dumbya had to continue for two of the longest years in American history. With the economy swirling the toilet, and two ill-thought and ill-fought wars, Obama saved America with the stimulus, auto maker bailout, Iraq withdrawal and getting OBL once and for all, something that should have happened ten years earlier.

Every conservative in America owes America an apology for Dumbya and his oafish GOP congress, even though I personally won't accept it. The damage you inflicted was just too great.

 

[LeftofLeft]

America is coming back after the worst economic disaster, created by Bush and the far right wing of the GOP, in eighty years.

No more neo-conservatism, no more free-wheeling businesses.

sub 30 hours work week to avoid a government mandate. Who built that?

 

[P@triot]

It's no lie. GOP unified rule lasted all of a whopping six whole years before their policy mistakes, both foreign & domestic, started to inflict their damage.

The GOP majority was brought to a glorious end in 2006. Too bad the suffering under Dumbya had to continue for two of the longest years in American history. With the economy swirling the toilet, and two ill-thought and ill-fought wars, Obama saved America with the stimulus, auto maker bailout, Iraq withdrawal and getting OBL once and for all, something that should have happened ten years earlier.

Every conservative in America owes America an apology for Dumbya and his oafish GOP congress, even though I personally won't accept it. The damage you inflicted was just too great.

Sadly, it took Obama (and the worst Dumbocrat Congress ever) all of 1 year to inflict exponentially worse damage on America than anything GWB did in all 8 years...

 

[RandallFlagg]

America is coming back after the worst economic disaster, created by Bush and the far right wing of the GOP, in eighty years.

No more neo-conservatism, no more free-wheeling businesses.

You sound like your boy Barry. Every damn speech he makes he ALWAYS includes the following catch-phrases1) "We are recovering from the worst economic disaster since the great depression" - where the hell is the recovery? I haven't seen a single soul starve in the streets like in the 30s. (2) "We are hiring more and more teachers" - here's an idea - start FIRING some of these incompetent slobs that are destroying this generation of young people.

I look for Barry to make you "Minister of Propaganda" shortly.

 

[RandallFlagg]

2006? Who controlled both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court? Whose policies had been in place for years? nuff said.

2006 was the start of the wreck of the economy. The democrats won both houses and the slide began. You can deny it but the democrats are at fault controlling at least 2/3s of the government for the last 13 years, all we on the right can do is laugh at your stupid defense. Your "it is everyone but us" defense is getting old, quite old.

The last couple of years (as a lame Duck) Dems controlled both houses. The housing bust came as a result of Fannie and Freddie (Thanks Bawney Fwank). Two months before everything came crashing down, good ol Bawney was on the news stating that "Freddie and Fannie are fine! There is no problem there".

Democrats have been "in charge" of destroying this country for the last 13 years. Like it or not, facts are facts.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

2006? Who controlled both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court? Whose policies had been in place for years? nuff said.

 

[asterism]

2006? Who controlled both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court? Whose policies had been in place for years? nuff said.

Things were just fine until Democrats got more power.

 

[francoHFW]

You Pub dupes on this forum are the worst group I've ever seen lol...another planet. Fanny and Freddy had 80 percent of the market till 2002, 25 per cent the next four years, and it cost 200 billion to bail them out, 600 for the banks and financial institutions, perfect chumps of the greedy idiot rich GOP...so dumb.

 

[auditor0007]

America is coming back after the worst economic disaster, created by Bush and the far right wing of the GOP, in eighty years.

No more neo-conservatism, no more free-wheeling businesses.

Jake, the meltdown wasn't created overnight, it wasn't just a "Bush did it" thing. The meltdown was decades in the making and cultural in its DNA. It was a massive building of torque within our financial system, fed by virtually all of us, that had to break at some point.

It was a little more complicated than something we can just blame on one specific group of people, especially to make some kind of political statement.

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Here is the funny thing; it would not have made one bit of difference who was president. We were going to hit a brick wall at some point. Greenspan actually held off the meltdown through most of the Bush years by keeping interest rates much too low. Of course, had he let them creep higher, we would have had a larger recession during the Bush years, but it would not have been quite as bad as what we ended up with.

Despite all those things, the biggest factor was the fact that the baby boomers stopped buying. Whether they had already begun to retire or they were just at the point where their kids were growing up, baby boomers started to downsize, and they started saving for their retirement rather than spending it. That in itself was not the reason for the bust, but it is the biggest reason we have not seen a quicker recovery.

So what will be the driving force behind a strong recovery? It will come about as the baby boomers' kids start getting married, having kids, and buying their own new homes. Because of the downturn in the economy, many of these Generation Y kids have held off. In between the baby boomers and Generation Y is the lost Generation X'ers. They are the kids of the earliest baby boomers. Their numbers are around 40 million while the Generation Y crowd is around 75 million. Generation Y kids are currently between the ages of 19 and 36. Soon to follow is the Generation Z crowd. They are currently 21 million strong and that number is growing rapidly.

While we have gotten much older as a country with many more older people, that will slowly change again. When it does, the economy will grow stronger again, but that is still likely a good five years away. By 2020, we should really be booming.

 

[RandallFlagg]

America is coming back after the worst economic disaster, created by Bush and the far right wing of the GOP, in eighty years.

No more neo-conservatism, no more free-wheeling businesses.

Jake, the meltdown wasn't created overnight, it wasn't just a "Bush did it" thing. The meltdown was decades in the making and cultural in its DNA. It was a massive building of torque within our financial system, fed by virtually all of us, that had to break at some point.

It was a little more complicated than something we can just blame on one specific group of people, especially to make some kind of political statement.

.

Here is the funny thing; it would not have made one bit of difference who was president. We were going to hit a brick wall at some point. Greenspan actually held off the meltdown through most of the Bush years by keeping interest rates much too low. Of course, had he let them creep higher, we would have had a larger recession during the Bush years, but it would not have been quite as bad as what we ended up with.

Despite all those things, the biggest factor was the fact that the baby boomers stopped buying. Whether they had already begun to retire or they were just at the point where their kids were growing up, baby boomers started to downsize, and they started saving for their retirement rather than spending it. That in itself was not the reason for the bust, but it is the biggest reason we have not seen a quicker recovery.

So what will be the driving force behind a strong recovery? It will come about as the baby boomers' kids start getting married, having kids, and buying their own new homes. Because of the downturn in the economy, many of these Generation Y kids have held off. In between the baby boomers and Generation Y is the lost Generation X'ers. They are the kids of the earliest baby boomers. Their numbers are around 40 million while the Generation Y crowd is around 75 million. Generation Y kids are currently between the ages of 19 and 36. Soon to follow is the Generation Z crowd. They are currently 21 million strong and that number is growing rapidly.

While we have gotten much older as a country with many more older people, that will slowly change again. When it does, the economy will grow stronger again, but that is still likely a good five years away. By 2020, we should really be booming.

So, what happens when, at some point, the Fed stops buying 85 BILLION worth of bonds each month to prop up the economy?

It's coming - at some point. It will be interesting to stand on the sidelines and watch as the economy bottoms out. I promise you - it WILL happen. And, I predict that it will "mysteriously" happen right about the time of the next presidential election.

We simply cannot go on the way we have for the last 3-4 years. It's a phony situation and it is going to come back to haunt America.