It Is OFFICIAL: Pelosi / 'Shutdown' Party Reject Deal - They Own The Shutdown!

[busybee01]

All most every one agrees we need to work on immigration, working on a solution is the right way. end the freeze give both sides 30 days to find a solution.

Nope no wall, no open

No open. No White House. No Senate majority.

We'll see about that.

We already saw what happened in the midterms. Trump was a major factor in the House losses.

 

[busybee01]

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Several Republicans have openly said they do not need a wall.

Pelosi got busted for nothing. She is right in saying the SOTU speech should be postponed. She was going to meet the troops. That is horrible.

Going to try and brainwash the troops or feed them some more Democrat propaganda is more like it.

You are the one feeding us propaganda. Except most Americans can see through your and Trump's bullshit.

Does anyone other than your mommy buy your crap?

American voters support 63 - 30 percent a Democratic proposal to reopen parts of the government that do not involve border security while negotiating funding for the Wall, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.

You are the only crap that I see. No one believes you except empty headed Trump supporters.

If we opened the government and negotiated later for border wall we would never get the border wall which is why you want us to do it this way.

Americans are being held hostage by Trump. Thank you for your honesty.

 

[busybee01]

The fact is that voters oppose a wall...

YOU LIE...unless you if ore the polls, articles, and evidence to the contrary.

That was Trump's closing arguments in the midterms and led to a 40 seat gain for Democrats in the House and a smaller than expected gain in the Senate. YOU ARE THE LIAR WHO IGNORES COLD HARD FACTS.

Yeah, people are still scratching their heads over the election. Trump is a practical person who figured that the nation would lean towards American traditions and values in which most rememberd as in his MAGA campaign strategy that won out earlier.

The nation has changed so much overtime, that even he underestimated the power of the liberal/leftist influence that had gone unchallenged in many areas for decades upon decades now. He also underestimates their deeper state entrenched connections and donors ready to protect their interest in the change it wants above and beyond his and the base.

Maybe he has learned better about this stuff. Take nothing for granite should be the republican motto going forward.

American values are compassion. Compassion for people who are in fear for their lives. The nation has not changed. The Republican Party has changed. Ronald Reagan would never be a part of this party. It is the party of neo-nazis and white supremacists. It has been taken over by the alt-right.

Oh yeah, well who pushed the party towards this alledged radicalization ? You guessed it "the Demon-crats did". You gonna say that the crats are just these innocent bystanders ?? Of course you will. Key the violin's.

You laugh about other people's misery and you claim to be a Christian. You are a fake Christian.

 

[The Purge]

All most every one agrees we need to work on immigration, working on a solution is the right way. end the freeze give both sides 30 days to find a solution.

Nope no wall, no open

No open. No White House. No Senate majority.

We'll see about that.

We already saw what happened in the midterms. Trump was a major factor in the House losses.

He didnt try to help Housevmembers, he concentrated on the Senate where Patriots picked up 2 seats making impeachment nearly impossible for you commie bastards to do!

 

[busybee01]

No they did not. Trump was elected because he was the least worst of the two candidates. If he was voted in because of the wall, Republicans would have retained the House instead of losing it to Democrats and Republicans would have won at least 5 or more seats. They only picked up 2 in a map that heavily favored them.

What did Trump tell his supporters at every campaign rally? And what was their response?

A quarter of the voters voted for their candidate because they were voting against the other candidate. That is where Trump won. Trump tried to make immigration a major issue in the midterms and resulted in a 40 seat loss for Republicans and only a 2 seat gain in the Senate despite a very favorable map.

Trump won because Hillary is a criminal piece of shit & because Trump promised to secure the border with a wall, not run Sanctuary Cities like Hillary & the Democrats.

That is why Democrats won the House huh?

Democrats won the house not because of their policies that create hords of dependency, but because they have Hollyweird and the mainstream media hammering propaganda out day and night to the high tones of ear splitting frequencies.

One day the nation will wake up or either give in. Not sure what the end result will be.

Democrats won the House because suburban women are abandoning the GOP in droves. They seem to object to being second class citizens by the GOP.

The nation has woken up and rejected the party of white supremacy and neo-nazis, the Republican Party.

 

[The Purge]

Trump should turn the furloughs into permanent layoffs so the government employees could draw unemployment.

1. He gets to say they will get a “check.”
2. The check won’t cost as much to the taxpayer.
3. Those jobs can be phased out.
4. The unemployment is generally for 12 months, the longer the DemonRATS SAY FUCK THE SECURITY OF OUR CITIZENS, THE BETTER the chances are for 2020 elections.
5. It lights a fire under the Rats because the last thing they want is to reduce the number of union workers paying dues to Rat re-election campaigns.

Don’t forget that those 800,000 federal employees are considered non-essential.

 

[busybee01]

All most every one agrees we need to work on immigration, working on a solution is the right way. end the freeze give both sides 30 days to find a solution.

Nope no wall, no open

No open. No White House. No Senate majority.

We'll see about that.

We already saw what happened in the midterms. Trump was a major factor in the House losses.

He didnt try to help Housevmembers, he concentrated on the Senate where Patriots picked up 2 seats making impeachment nearly impossible for you commie bastards to do!

Trump was a major factor in the House races and that was bad news for Republicans. In the Senate, they gained only 2 seats in a map that was extremely favorable for Republicans. How many people on this board said that Republicans were going to pick up 10 Senate seats.

 

[busybee01]

Trump should turn the furloughs into permanent layoffs so the government employees could draw unemployment.

1. He gets to say they will get a “check.”
2. The check won’t cost as much to the taxpayer.
3. Those jobs can be phased out.
4. The unemployment is generally for 12 months, the longer the DemonRATS SAY FUCK THE SECURITY OF OUR CITIZENS, THE BETTER the chances are for 2020 elections.
5. It lights a fire under the Rats because the last thing they want is to reduce the number of union workers paying dues to Rat re-election campaigns.

Don’t forget that those 800,000 federal employees are considered non-essential.

That means that the food we eat is not being inspected, the courts will shut down to name a couple of essential functions.

 

[busybee01]

You idiots keep forgetting that Republicans tried to kill Obamacare even though the majority didn't want that. Obamacare is more popular than Trump.

Obama care, as usual, was all about Obama and the liberal agenda. Opposing the wall is all about the Democrats and the liberal agenda, not the American people.

People now support Obamacare and want it fixed not repealed. That is why Voters overwhelmingly trust Democrats more than they do Republicans on healthcare. The American people oppose a wall as well.

Of course Obumble care is wanted more than ever now, because you crats have broke so many over the years that the dependents are crying for any kind of relief in their dependency.

A majority of Americans are Democrats? Then Trump is really in trouble.

 

[The Purge]

Nope no wall, no open

No open. No White House. No Senate majority.

We'll see about that.

We already saw what happened in the midterms. Trump was a major factor in the House losses.

He didnt try to help Housevmembers, he concentrated on the Senate where Patriots picked up 2 seats making impeachment nearly impossible for you commie bastards to do!

Trump was a major factor in the House races and that was bad news for Republicans. In the Senate, they gained only 2 seats in a map that was extremely favorable for Republicans. How many people on this board said that Republicans were going to pick up 10 Senate seats.

44 House Republicans had announced they are retiring, running for another office or resigning outright, including Ryan. They're leaving from all over the map, from southern New Jersey to southern New Mexico....the DemonRATS picked up 40 of those seats overall less of a loss than expected! Historically the party out of power in the WH picks up the house races!

 

[The Purge]

Trump should turn the furloughs into permanent layoffs so the government employees could draw unemployment.

1. He gets to say they will get a “check.”
2. The check won’t cost as much to the taxpayer.
3. Those jobs can be phased out.
4. The unemployment is generally for 12 months, the longer the DemonRATS SAY FUCK THE SECURITY OF OUR CITIZENS, THE BETTER the chances are for 2020 elections.
5. It lights a fire under the Rats because the last thing they want is to reduce the number of union workers paying dues to Rat re-election campaigns.

Don’t forget that those 800,000 federal employees are considered non-essential.

That means that the food we eat is not being inspected, the courts will shut down to name a couple of essential functions.

Well, tell your DemonRAT rep. To vote to give Trump the security we need!

 

[Auld Phart]

Pelosi passed legislation to reopen government

Trump rejected it

Legislation that gave the President nothing. Only a shit-for-brains like you believes that's a meaningful legislation. What ever happened to compromise? Isn't that what dolts like you are always bleating about?

You are the ones who have shit for brains. That was a compromise. Just because Trump wants something does not mean he automatically gets it. That is not what compromise means.

What is your idea of "compromise?"

My compromise has no money for the wall.

Doesn't sound like much of a compromisse

 

[Auld Phart]

The shutdown today: Trump lashes out after Dems reject offer

The 'hostage crisis' is all on Pelosi After she walked away from DACA...again...

No. Again, Trump said he was responsible on 12/11/18

It's going to come to a point where that won't matter. He's made at least three proposals in good faith to the Democrats, and they rejected all of them. Including this one. Trump is making all the offers here. Democrats are sitting there throwing a tantrum because the government isn't open for them to take advantage of.

It's like this: Do you want DACA or not? Or is your so called compassion for those illegals just a front in your resistance to Trump? He's offered amnesty, deportation protections, extensions...for MILLIONS of people in the country illegally. Basically things you leftists get off on. When they become aware of those proposals, and the Democrats' obstinance, who do you think will own the shutdown then?

It won't be Trump. You can't act in good faith if you are always saying no. In fact, he had Democrats saying no before he even gave the address yesterday.

Trump walked out of the last face to face meeting. It’s on him x 2

Because Nancy gave him a flat no on money for the wall.

why bother listening to their demands?

 

[Auld Phart]

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Who gives a f* what you agree with? You are not Speaker...obviously Pelosi is not, based on the fact that she refuses to negotiate, refuses to compromise, and attempts to run from the House and her position as Speaker by trying to flee the country during her shutdown.

The Democrats have tried to overturn the results of the election....now Pelosi is single-handedly trying to block what the American people voted him into office to do.

she is winning because

Pew Research Centre poll released Wednesday reported that 58 per cent of Americans oppose building a border wall; 61 per cent disapprove of the way Trump is handling the shutdown.

she plans to pass a package of House bills that would reopen shuttered government agencies and increase spending on border security - without a wall.

Tell us something we don't already know. You could have just said when intends to ignore whatever the Senate and the President want. Why should Trump sign her bill if the bill has nothing he wants?

Pelosi refuses to negotiate / compromise ... Which her own Dems recognize is how things get done...

She walked away from DACA....

She has offered no compromise...and tried to flee the country during her shutdown

In case you didnt know, Hawaii is a US state.
Trump is the one who walked out of negotiations.

Trump is the one who walked out of negotiations.

What negotiations?

Trump asked Nancy if she was going to finance the Wall.

She gave him a flat NO!

 

[bripat9643]

You’re a true idiot if you think the Dems will “talk” once the government reopens.

You are a idiot if you think Trump will be re-elected after this fiasco. Voters do not want a wall.

He will be reelected. History shows that shutdowns don't harm the reelection odds for Republicans. In fact, it enhances them. The only people are going to hold it against Trump are the government workers, and they are all Democrats anyway.

History does not show that. The Gingrich shutdown was the longest on record until the Trump shutdown came along. Clinton's numbers were sagging until the shutdown. Voters blamed Republicans for the shutdown and Clinton's approvals started rising and resulted in a easy re-election.

The Republicans gained seats in every election of Clinton's tenure.

Clinton won only because he ran against that loser Dole.

Untrue. Republicans lost Hose seats in a year when the party out of power gains seats. Gingrich was forced to resign.

Clinton won because of the shutdown.

You didn't check, did you, dumbass? 1996 was a presidential elections. The party out of power doesn't necessarily gain seats in such years. Only during off year elections. The Republicans lost 2 seats in 1996. Hardly an election tidal wave.

1992 - Republicans 176 seats
1994 - Republicans 230 seats
1996 - Republicans 228 seats
1998 - Republicans 227 seats
2000 - Republicans 221 seats

 

[bripat9643]

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Who gives a f* what you agree with? You are not Speaker...obviously Pelosi is not, based on the fact that she refuses to negotiate, refuses to compromise, and attempts to run from the House and her position as Speaker by trying to flee the country during her shutdown.

The Democrats have tried to overturn the results of the election....now Pelosi is single-handedly trying to block what the American people voted him into office to do.

she is winning because

Pew Research Centre poll released Wednesday reported that 58 per cent of Americans oppose building a border wall; 61 per cent disapprove of the way Trump is handling the shutdown.

she plans to pass a package of House bills that would reopen shuttered government agencies and increase spending on border security - without a wall.

Tell us something we don't already know. You could have just said when intends to ignore whatever the Senate and the President want. Why should Trump sign her bill if the bill has nothing he wants?

Pelosi refuses to negotiate / compromise ... Which her own Dems recognize is how things get done...

She walked away from DACA....

She has offered no compromise...and tried to flee the country during her shutdown

In case you didnt know, Hawaii is a US state.
Trump is the one who walked out of negotiations.

Piglosi stated flat out that she refused to negotiate, so why should Trump have stayed?

 

[bripat9643]

People do not want a wall. People support DACA.

Pelosi believes in a wall - she voted for it in 2006 and 2013...

She does NOT believe in DACA - she just walked away from it.

Pelosi believes in screwing Americans to hurt Trump's 2020 re-election chances.

She voted for a fence not a wall. Trump used to be a Democrat. So what.

She walked away from a pale imitation of DACA.

Trump believes in screwing Americans and puts his base above a majority of Americans.

Hardly. Piglosi and the Democrats are the ones who are screwing Americans. The only practical difference between a fence and a wall is that the later is more durable and harder to get over.

 

[Lysistrata]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

.

Your whore said that Mexico would pay for his wall. There is no need for ""negotiations" between political parties.There is no need to involve the Democratic Party or any one in it. Why is your whore not opening up the government when he already has funding for his pipe dream?

 

[bripat9643]

The next move is a public proposal by the Democrats otherwise they are sitting on the issue.

They have made their proposal clear. Open the government and then we will talk. Americans overwhelmingly agree with that.

Some of us have seen time after time how Democrats operate.

We've seen how Trump and Republicans operate. That is why Democrats picked up 40 seats in the House.

Whoopee...a whole 40. Weren't you planning on 60?

Not really. The Republicans gerrymandered the House very well. We saw what happened in Pennsylvania when there was a fair map. The state went from a 13-5 Republican majority to a 9-9 tie and 3 more Republican seats in danger in 2020.

Dims controlled the House for 40 years before that. Was it Gerrymanders then?

 

[bripat9643]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

.

Your whore said that Mexico would pay for his wall. There is no need for ""negotiations" between political parties.There is no need to involve the Democratic Party or any one in it. Why is your whore not opening up the government when he already has funding for his pipe dream?

Whenever Republicans win, the whores in your party insist they have to negotiate and compromise. Obviously, they were lying when they said it.