It's even worse...

[Czernobog]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

 

[Iceweasel]

This isn't a normal election cycle by any means and it would take too long to bring you up to speed.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

I'm reminded of the last election cycle, when Mitt Romney was condemned for a lot of the fallout from his business ventures. What this ignored, of course, is that the form of business activity in which Mr. Romney was involved—venture capital investing—is a very high-risk form of investing, supporting businesses that have a high chance of failure. When they fail, they tend to fail spectacularly, but when they succeed, they tend to succeed spectacularly.

It's rather like condemning an oncologist (a physician who specializes in treating cancer) for having a much higher patient death rate, than, say, a dermatologist, who treats minor skin issues.

I don't really know enough about the nature of Trump's business to know for sure, but I'd bet that a similar principle probably applies to him. In any event, he's certainly had a great many successes as well. What experience and successes has Hillary Clinton had in business and investing?

And while having had two marriages fail in divorce is not exactly admirable, I'll put that over someone who is known to have willingly aided and abetted a violent sexual predator.

 

[MarcATL]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

I know, right?

#LOLGOP

 

[Jackson]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

You really need to brush up on "business bankruptcies" and "personal bankruptcies." A business bankruptcy is prudent when a business is going south to curb the losses of a business when a failure is imminent.

Let's say that you invested in a casino when the economy was thriving and people had the funds to vacation, engage in social gambling and it had been a historically profitable investment. Then the economy hit a crisis unforeseen by most economists. Would it be prudent for you to keep running the establishment when it was in negative territory for a lengthy time? If course not.

People lost their jobs and were laid off at an alarming rate when the economy hit the skids. People lost their homes and lost what they had in their 401K's. Do you think you would be immune to that just because you were a successful business man for decades earlier??

As president of the US, I would expect Trump to use every law that would protect our country from defaulting on loans or getting our jobs back to the US. Do you agree?

As for the multiple marriages, I think "Horrors!" At least this man ended the marriages in an honest attempt to free the spouse from infidelity. How many marriages would Billy Clinton have if every time he assaulted a woman or underage girl he had to end his marriage? Just because infidelity is okay to the Clintons, it's not what Trump wanted.

 

[owebo]

That's all you liberals have? You're fucking doomed.....

 

[Jackson]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

I know, right?

#LOLGOP

You are very naive and obviously not a successful businessman.

 

[Pogo]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

Yeah, "responsibility" is kind of a touchy word to bring up when the subject has never even held a job, or any kind of position of responsibility at all, in his life.

What a great choice to plop into the most demanding job in the world. What could possibly go wrong with a plan like that....

 

[Pogo]

As president of the US, I would expect Trump to use every law that would protect our country from defaulting on loans or getting our jobs back to the US. Do you agree?

Actually I'd expect him to do nothing but the same thing he's done 24/7 for his entire seventy years ----- look out for Numero Uno, screw anyone who gets in the way, and deny any shred of responsibility for anything, ever.

In even more astounding news, water is wet. Who knew.

 

[Jackson]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

Yeah, "responsibility" is kind of a touchy word to bring up when the subject has never even held a job, or any kind of position of responsibility at all, in his life.

What a great choice to plop into the most demanding job in the world. What could possibly go wrong with a plan like that....

Trump has never had a job?? Really?

 

[P@triot]

The thing is - he's not a Republican. He's a life-long, hard-core liberal Democrat. Which explains all of the racism!





Trump in 2008: Hillary Clinton would make a "great" president - CBS News

 

[Jackson]

As president of the US, I would expect Trump to use every law that would protect our country from defaulting on loans or getting our jobs back to the US. Do you agree?

Actually I'd expect him to do nothing but the same thing he's done 24/7 for his entire seventy years ----- look out for Numero Uno, screw anyone who gets in the way, and deny any shred of responsibility for anything, ever.

In even more astounding news, water is wet. Who knew.

Lol! So, if you had a small business and it was going belly up, you would exhaust your savings and retirement to stay open and pay your employee when failure was imminent? You would just keep on paying them until you run out of money? What a success you would be! Don't open a business.

 

[Jackson]

The thing is - he's not a Republican. He's a life-long, hard-core liberal Democrat. Which explains all of the racism!





Trump in 2008: Hillary Clinton would make a "great" president - CBS News

He knew how to get government contracts. Hob nob with those who could be bought. That isn't really great to do, but it was working for his businesses.

 

[Siete]

worry not, like Donnie said he would print more $$$$.

so when the screws us in to a depression all he has to do is fire up the money makers.

 

[Pogo]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

Yeah, "responsibility" is kind of a touchy word to bring up when the subject has never even held a job, or any kind of position of responsibility at all, in his life.

What a great choice to plop into the most demanding job in the world. What could possibly go wrong with a plan like that....

Trump has never had a job?? Really?

As far as I can determine ---- no. I put that challenge out to this board, to find any time, anywhere, in any field, that Rump has ever had to meet somebody else's expectations. I've had zero responses. No interviewing with one's resume or qualifications or job history. No review. No manager giving instructions in a setting where if you don't meet them you're fired. Nothing. Military service would have qualified but --- bone spurs while playing squash you know.

That's what happens when Daddy just hands you millions on the basis that you exist. You don't need a job. The Art of Avoiding Responsibility.

That was the second challenge I put out. The first was to find any instance anywhere, any time, in any setting, where Rump has ever taken any kind of responsibility for any negative. Any bankruptcy, any mistake, any misjudgment, any fuckup, any apology, any acknowledgment whatsoever, about anything. That got no return as well.

And that's what happens when you live inside a personal bubble of self-delusional narcissism.

What a great choice to plunk into the most challenging job in the world, don't you think? It's like going to the World Series and announcing your starting pitcher will be Stephen Hawking.

 

[Jackson]

worry not, like Donnie said he would print more $$$$.

so when the screws us in to a depression all he has to do is fire up the money makers.

Link to that quote?

 

[Jackson]

Ya know, I just came across this meme:

and the first thought that crossed my mind is, "It's even worse..." Forget the three marriages thing. Republicans are practically tripping over themselves to explain how, suddenly, bankruptcy is the responsible thing for a business man to do. The established view of bankruptcy has always been that it ruins one's credit rating, it screams "failure", and it is the shelter that low-lifes, crooks, and scam artists run to to get away with screwing the people they owe money to.

But, now, suddenly, bankruptcy is the thing that all fiscally responsible people do?!?!? REALLY??????

Yeah, "responsibility" is kind of a touchy word to bring up when the subject has never even held a job, or any kind of position of responsibility at all, in his life.

What a great choice to plop into the most demanding job in the world. What could possibly go wrong with a plan like that....

Trump has never had a job?? Really?

As far as I can determine ---- no. I put that challenge out to this board, to find any time, anywhere, in any field, that Rump has ever had to meet somebody else's expectations. I've had zero responses. No interviewing with one's resume or qualifications or job history. No review. No manager giving instructions in a setting where if you don't meet them you're fired. Nothing. Military service would have qualified but --- bone spurs while playing squash you know.

That's what happens when Daddy just hands you millions on the basis that you exist. You don't need a job. The Art of Avoiding Responsibility.

That was the second challenge I put out. The first was to find any instance anywhere, any time, in any setting, where Rump has ever taken any kind of responsibility for any negative. Any bankruptcy, any mistake, any misjudgment, any fuckup, any apology, any acknowledgment whatsoever. That got no return as well.

What a great choice to plunk into the most challenging job in the world, don't you think? It's like going to the World Series and announcing your starting pitcher will be Stephen Hawking.

Correction. Daddy gave him ONE million to start an empire.

Don't you think when Trump is dealing with partners or investors there are expectations of dealing with an honest man... a man who has a history of making successful companies? LOL! Just because Trump has always been the leader and not the employee is hardly a negative attribute.

He has made deals and started businesses in foreign countries as well.

A man does not become a billionaire by being exempt from expectations, quite the opposite. His qualifications are exactly what has made him a billionaire.

You are mistaken if you think he has been sitting on the couch waiting for his billions to roll in. Being a builder is definitely a job. He is competitive, competent and has the temperament to work with people all over the globe. Being successful IS NOT a negative.

 

[tinydancer]

The thing is - he's not a Republican. He's a life-long, hard-core liberal Democrat. Which explains all of the racism!





Trump in 2008: Hillary Clinton would make a "great" president - CBS News

He knew how to get government contracts. Hob nob with those who could be bought. That isn't really great to do, but it was working for his businesses.

There's a social level with business any business that is crucial. It's just the way the world works.

It's not even buying anyone. You schmooze. Say for example back when I was in the music business and I was promoting Ronnie Spector I threw a large media party where price was no object for booze or food for the media to come an interview her in Toronto. Ditto Grace Slick (formerly of the Jefferson Airplane) who had a new solo album out. Promo parties were my specialty

In another promotion for a new independent label, I rented several street cars and gave the music media in Toronto the party of a lifetime.

You schmooze in business. It happened when my husband was with PPG at Saturn too. You take out staff and wine and dine them to promote your business. I at that point was retired from the music but had become a corporate wife. And you go out as a couple and try to pull off getting more business for the company.

Trump did this at the high end with New York and international business. There is nothing wrong with this. It's what you do.

Now I don't know how old you are Jackson but in case you don't know who Ronnie Spector is she is the classic Phil Spector voice of the 60's with his wall of sound. The Ronettes was the girl band. Be my little baby was their giant hit. I was promoting her new album Siren produced by Genya Raven.

 

[Jackson]

I agree with what you have said. Good post, TD.

 

[Pogo]

Correction. Daddy gave him ONE million to start an empire.

I believe the actual figure is between 40 million and 200 million actually. Money, I might add, made by defrauding the government, though that's on Fred the father, but it does indicate the apple does not fall far from the tree.

Sorry, did I say "apple"? I meant "orange".

Don't you think when Trump is dealing with partners or investors there are expectations of dealing with an honest man... a man who has a history of making successful companies? LOL! Just because Trump has always been the leader and not the employee is hardly a negative attribute.

Nope, not the same thing at all. When you're making a deal one party cannot fire the other; if you don't like the deal, you decline. If you commit to the deal and then get screwed, you're in court with a lawsuit. And there are way too many of those to even count.

And it's not a "positive" or "negative", it's a simple observation that the man has never been in a position of responsibility in his entire life. That's not in itself a "negative" -- if you won the Powerball tomorrow you could be in the same position, which is fine. And Rump could have had the same financial status he has right now by simply taking that 40-to-200 million and seeding it into traditional stock investments, letting a manager take care of it and skating, doing whatever he liked. His insatiable narcissism and continual need for attention of course led him down a different path where he now has the same amount of money he would have had (if his own claims are accurate, which is itself highly in doubt), but has profited in terms of that juvenile need for constant attention, which is apparently what he sought, and did so successfully.

But that's not the point. Narcissists can be narcissists --- this one is running for POTUS though. And with that comes just a tiny bit of responsibility, which is an experience he's never had or sought, and has in fact scrupulously avoided.

Want a demonstration? He'll bring it wid a quickness. Ask him about his bankruptcies. Ask him about his treatment of women. Ask him about inciting violence. He's NEVER responsible. Ever. Not once.

He has made deals and started businesses in foreign countries as well.

Irrelevant. You don't get "foreign policy experience" on the basis of being Sugar Daddy to East European blondes.

A man does not become a billionaire by being exempt from expectations, quite the opposite. His qualifications are exactly what has made him a billionaire.

You spelled "inheritance" wrong. He has no "qualifications". Unless being born rich and having everything in life just handed to you for nothing somehow is defined as "qualifications".

You are mistaken if you think he has been sitting on the couch waiting for his billions to roll in. Being a builder is definitely a job.

Having Narcissistic Personality Disorder certainly seems to be. I certainly don't begrudge him that; he's unquestionably worked hard at it.


Some of us seem to lose sight of the fact that a POTUS isn't about "making deals" or pushing money around. We're hiring a public servant ---- not engaging the services of Scott Boras. **WE** are the boss here, not the employee.