It's Good To Be Rich! More Republican Tax Breaks!

[Soggy in NOLA]

No, just less confiscation. Interestingly enough, the more you grab for, the less the government actually ends up with. It's a documented phenomenon.

I see, you complain about 'confiscation' but enjoy driving down public streets without paying a toll.

You do realize that taxes that some of us pay go to pay for those streets, right?

 

[Leweman]

No, just less confiscation. Interestingly enough, the more you grab for, the less the government actually ends up with. It's a documented phenomenon.

I see, you complain about 'confiscation' but enjoy driving down public streets without paying a toll.

Nice straw man argument, moron.

 

[Siete]

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

 

[OnePercenter]

Pretty sure the president is a Democrat you big hater poop. Why don't you ask him why the rich are getting richer and the poor are going to hell under his administration you big dummy dupe stupid head.

And you referring to someone else as functional moron is pretty rich in of itself considering you are the epitome of ignorance on this forum.

Income disparity has been increasing since the 70's. Republicans and corporate America are the cause.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Stupid Rs didn't lower the taxes enough.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

Hey, shit for brains, the cap on SS is $118,500 and the rate is 6.2%... they both pay 6.2%.. you know, the same percentage.

Jesus you libs are stupid.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Pretty sure the president is a Democrat you big hater poop. Why don't you ask him why the rich are getting richer and the poor are going to hell under his administration you big dummy dupe stupid head.

And you referring to someone else as functional moron is pretty rich in of itself considering you are the epitome of ignorance on this forum.

Income disparity has been increasing since the 70's. Republicans and corporate America are the cause.

Do tell, how?

 

[peach174]

Pretty sure the president is a Democrat you big hater poop. Why don't you ask him why the rich are getting richer and the poor are going to hell under his administration you big dummy dupe stupid head.

And you referring to someone else as functional moron is pretty rich in of itself considering you are the epitome of ignorance on this forum.

Income disparity has been increasing since the 70's. Republicans and corporate America are the cause.

It's Socialist Dem's policies and that is exactly when they took control over the Federal Government in the 1970's.

 

[Siete]

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

Hey, shit for brains, the cap on SS is $118,500 and the rate is 6.2%... they both pay 6.2%.. you know, the same percentage.

Jesus you libs are stupid.

told you it was a brain fuck question , and it never fails ... the brainless are fucked.

 

[Spare_change]

Just look at the dem one percenters begging to pay more in taxes. Its so touching.

True. Idiot. Keep voting for the greedy a-hole megarich, hater dupe. MY party doesn't lie, these are neutral stats, dupe. Can you spot the Problem, DUH....:

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.
Over the past 30 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:
1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%
A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Zh1bveXc8rA/SuddUhLWUaI/AAAAAAAAA7M/iU2gefk317M/s1600-h/Clipboard01.jpg
2 – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/blog/09/04/27/CongratulationstoEmmanuelSaez/
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/
5/6 = http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4?slop=1#slideshow-start
Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

That's because you don't have the mentality that everyone else's money doesn't belong to them.

Do you think that it's OK for the rich to pay a less percentage of their total income toward taxes than you do?

The real question is ... are you willing to listen to a logical argument, even when it disagrees with your position?

If so, I'd be shocked .... but, here we go.

You have thrown up a pile of statistics hoping to overwhelm with quantity, rather than convince with quality.

a) You have cited statistics that discuss the "share" of the economy for the workers.

b) You cite that the 'workers' have gotten a smaller share of the income over a given period of time.

c) By your own admission, you somehow believe that workers should receive a commensurate share of the market based, not on contribution, but rather, on effort.

d) You conveniently choose to assign all productivity increases to the actions of the worker. Simply ... not logical.

e) Your 'figures' do not allow for automation or efficiency. Either of these factors would increase the productivity, without increasing the effort of the workers. In fact, the worker contribution would actually be less.

f) You fail to acknowledge that the investor deserves compensation for the risk ... and for the loss of products or services that invested money could have purchased.

g) You fail to acknowledge that workers provide a product - their labor - for which they are compensated. They have no intrinsic right to any profits of the product produced.

h) You fail to acknowledge that the American workforce has become fat and lazy - expecting maximum compensation for minimum effort.

i) You have perverted the very concept of the 'American Dream'. The American Dream was never to have a comfortable existence by doing the same ol' job every day. Like everything else in life, if you do the same thing every day, you're going to get the same return every day.

The 'American Dream' was always that you could, with effort, intelligence, and luck, be able to improve your position in life. How many of these workers have tried to start their own business? How many have increased their education? How many have put their ass --- and everything else they own --- on the line because they have the next Great Idea?

Now, back to the central point of your attack - which you neatly camouflaged in non-applicable statistics. "Do you think that it's OK for the rich to pay a less percentage of their total income toward taxes than you do? Your question, of course, presumes that just because the rich have money, you somehow have a right to some of it. Further, you assume that they have an inherent responsibility to care for others, and by damn, if they aren't going to do it .. then, you will force it on them!!

In your interest of equality, I'm curious --- do you really apply that to everybody? Does everybody who drives that one mile of road in front of your house pay the same for it? Do those who have children in the local school pay for it, while those of who do not, go free? I suspect you aren't the least be interested in equality, but rather, in making sure you get some of what you couldn't make for yourself. Simply - you want to steal it.

I presume, then, it is safe to say, that you somehow believe that the rich receive more government assistance than the lower or middle classes, and therefore, it is only appropriate that they pay a larger fee for it. I'm curious - what about those who pay nothing? Should we deny them government services because they don't pay for them?

See? Your argument fails the logic test ...

 

[peach174]

The Republican controlled Senate has once again passed two bills that help the rich while screwing the middle class and poor.

U.S. House passes estate tax repeal despite veto threat Reuters

House quietly passes tax exemption for megadonors - Kenneth P. Vogel and Hillary Flynn - POLITICO

House quietly passes tax exemption for megadonors - Kenneth P. Vogel and Hillary Flynn - POLITICO

It is now good for our Mom and Pop businesses, Entrepreneurs, our Ranchers and Farmers.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Everywhere.

Less air traffic controllers? Less radar? Less INS? Less police? Less Fire Fighters?

Riiiight, because those are the ONLY things we can possibly cut spending on.

Do you know how incredibly tired I am of hearing you leftist extortioners blatting about how you're going to eviscerate society unless we pay you off?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

Hey, shit for brains, the cap on SS is $118,500 and the rate is 6.2%... they both pay 6.2%.. you know, the same percentage.

Jesus you libs are stupid.

told you it was a brain fuck question , and it never fails ... the brainless are fucked.

My God.. who did this too you? You're dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.... lemme guess, public school?

 

[Leweman]

If Liberals really cared about fixing the income gap all those rich liberal politicians would have given away all their money by now.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Everywhere.

Less air traffic controllers? Less radar? Less INS? Less police? Less Fire Fighters?

Riiiight, because those are the ONLY things we can possibly cut spending on.

Do you know how incredibly tired I am of hearing you leftist extortioners blatting about how you're going to eviscerate society unless we pay you off?

They ain't all that bright.

 

[Spare_change]

That's ludicrous .... why would 'corporate America' hire more people that they don't need .... you want to transfer government welfare to corporate welfare? And, who would pay for that? Oh wait ... I know ... the people who buy the products produced by a company bloated by this corporate welfare, thus driving up the cost of the products purchased.

Sorry --- you failed the logic test.

If more people were working and making money, wouldn't business make more money?

You're not increasing the economy --- you are reassigning it. You also fail to consider the impact of removing investment capital from the economy.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

Hey, shit for brains, the cap on SS is $118,500 and the rate is 6.2%... they both pay 6.2%.. you know, the same percentage.

Jesus you libs are stupid.

told you it was a brain fuck question , and it never fails ... the brainless are fucked.

IOW, you have no idea of what you are talking about and that you pay 10 percent on your 32 million and then screaming that the rich don't pay enough.

 

[BluesLegend]

Its clear no matter how much I pay in taxes the lying filth liberals will demonize me so why shouldn't I aggressively do everything I can to keep every dime of my earnings? The top 1% now pay 50% of the taxes how is that fair? You wealth grabbing communist puke liberals can blow it out your ass.

 

[Siete]

lets get to payroll tax ... the cap is about $110 K or so ..

Earl makes $90K and pays 100% on that $90K

Sam makes $1.5 Million $ and pays $110K on that $1.5 million..

brain fuck question ...

who pays the higher percentage? Earl or Sam?

Hey, shit for brains, the cap on SS is $118,500 and the rate is 6.2%... they both pay 6.2%.. you know, the same percentage.

Jesus you libs are stupid.

told you it was a brain fuck question , and it never fails ... the brainless are fucked.

My God.. who did this too you? You're dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.... lemme guess, public school?

have a third grader explain percentages to you ..

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why should they need convincing? Do you think people who run corporations are too stupid to know what's good for them?

Having morons like you around voting for Republicans will reduce tax debt for the rich and corporations to zero.

Yeah, and then all of our cadre of unicorns are going to turn around and fart glitter all over you, just to add insult to injury.