It's Time to Let Felons Vote, Holder Says

As I explained earlier, if a black man and a white man committed the exact same crime, statistics show the black man will be more likely to get the harsher punishment. So there is clearly some kind of racial element at work here.



Is it genetic or cultural for white people to discriminate against blacks?

Sentences should be the same for everyone regardless of race, or any other factor.


Do you think OJ would have been found innocent if he had not been rich and famous and been able to afford the best lawyers? The real factor here is money, not race.

and I do think that racism is genetic, for all races.

OJ would not have been found innocent if he had been white. It wasn't wealth. It was social justice.
like Robert Blake killing his wife? That Looney tune is free
 
Holder is speaking as a black man who sees blacks as being disproportionately jailed in America and thus disproportionately disenfranchised.





1. "For much of his life, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. carried around something peculiar…an old clipping of a quote from Harlem preacher Reverend Samuel D. Proctor. Holder put the clipping in his wallet in 1971, when he was studying history at Columbia University, and kept it in wallet after wallet over the ensuing decades.

What were Proctor’s words that Holder found so compelling?

“Blackness is another issue entirely apart from class in America. No matter how affluent, educated and mobile [a black person] becomes, his race defines him more particularly than anything else.”

…When asked to explain the passage, Holder replied, “It really says that… I am not the tall U.S. attorney, I am not the thin United States Attorney. I am the black United States attorney. And he was saying that no matter how successful you are, there’s a common cause that bonds the black United States attorney with the black criminal or the black doctor with the black homeless person.”

…It may seem shocking to hear these racialist views ascribed to America’s top law enforcement officer. But to people who have worked inside the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice, these attitudes are perfectly familiar."
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2. Holder’s explanation of Proctor’s quote offers some key insights into our attorney generals’ worldview. First, being “more particular” than anything else, skin color limits and defines Americans- in other words, race comes first for Holder.

Second, despite Americans’ widespread belief in trans-racial principles such as individual liberty and equal protection, blacks are expected to show solidarity with other blacks. And third, black law enforcement officers are expected to show this solidarity toward their racial compatriots, including black criminals.”
J. Christian Adams, “Injustice: Exposing The Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department,” p. 2.
 
I'm OK with it....You have either paid your debt to society or you haven't

If we want them to be good citizens when they get out, they should be able to act like citizens





I agree, once you have served your time, you should be free in every way.

So...do all of you want to see sex offender registries go away?

I really doubt any of them gave one thought to percentage of felon repeaters.
Most felons came up through the ranks to elevate themselves into the felons they are.
Not like they all have seen the errors of their ways and are now church goers.

Good grief, give it at least some thought on the matter and not just a knee jerk reaction.

The term felon encompasses a variety of criminals from serial child murderers to pot growers, bad check writers ect. I think each felon who is released from prison should have a chance to fully reintergrate, but they should be vetted indivisually. A person who has shown a propensity for violence maybe should not be allowed to own a gun.

A sexual predator should never be released as they are sick!

Your post implies that becoming a felon is a process of escalation. Some felons do progress over time into more dangerous ones - incorrigible, but some make a mistake at a young age, and repent. They may have been caught with drugs, or ran from the cops. I think that once punishment is met, and the offender has succesfully acculturated into a productive citizen, they should not be shunned, but accepted fully - I believe it is societally sound.

Life long punishment is a very harsh thing, and counter productive. That type of punishment should be confined to institutions.
 
By asking "Is it just racism", you are attempting to create a false dichotomy.

Racism does play a role. It is not an all or nothing proposition. But it does play a role.


how exactly does racism cause blacks to commit more crimes per capita than any other race.

As I explained earlier, if a black man and a white man committed the exact same crime, statistics show the black man will be more likely to get the harsher punishment. So there is clearly some kind of racial element at work here.

Poverty exists for all races, so you can't blame that. is it genetic, cultural?

Is it genetic or cultural for white people to discriminate against blacks?

If a black man and a white man commit the exact same crime, the black man will act up in court to the point where the jury wants to take him out and hang him on the spot. The white guy will appear to be the nicest guy in the world who couldn't possibly have done anything bad.

Seandell Jackson is an ideal example of why black men get such harsh sentences. He got life without possiblity of parole. Seandell is 19, he has a long way to go. How did he get there? Well for one he murdered Nathan Potter. That got him to trial, to get from trial to life, he....

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, in videos of when Jackson was told by the jury what his sentencing would be, he then turned to Potter's family and began to smirk and mouth obscenities. After Jackson was being led out of the courtroom, the videos also show Jackson turning to Potter's family and laughing.

In response to Jackson's laughing, Potter's father, John Potter asked Dallet, "Is there such a thing as pure evil?"


After he was sentenced, this little bitch cried like a girl.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TY_Sx14iUY#t=13]Hard gangsta cries like a little bitch after getting a life sentence - YouTube[/ame]

The Judge said that Jackson's behavior in court influenced the sentence.

And that is why black men get harsher sentences for the exact same crime.
 
He was just 19. They don't know better, a white 19 year old kid would piss in his pants one day locked up in county jail with all the blacks there and no allies.
 

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