Jeh Johnson at the border

[peach174]

The funding for that bill was not renewed in 2011.

It was added back in with another bill in 2013.
This is why our congress needs to read these bills.
Now we can understand how they are flooding the boarders with these kids so that they can hold the Republicans hostage over the immigration bill.
Democrats are so deceitful and play dirty pool politics.
They don't care about us Americans only their agenda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Trafficking_and_Violence_Protection_Act_of_2000

 

[Peach]

EXACTLY, now you understand, no money to enforce the law. No funding does not mean the law is not still in force.

Representative Jeff Fortenberry, a Nebraska Republican and a chief backer of the original bill, said multiple factors contributed to the crisis, including “exploitation of our laws, the ungoverned space in Central America, as well as the desperate poverty faced by those deciding to cross.”

“With all these factors in mind, it’s hard to think that today’s situation at the border can be directly attributed to a law that’s been in effect now for six years,” Mr. Fortenberry said.

The funding holdup is summarized by Jeff Flake:

Just two House Republicans — Representative Jeff Flake of Arizona and Representative Paul Broun of Georgia — opposed the measure when it first passed the House in 2007, but it went through Congress without opposition and with little notice in the post-election session of 2008.

Aides to Mr. Flake, now a senator, said he did not foresee the current problems but was more concerned about holding the line on federal spending at the time. He now backs revising the law. “Congress needs to change what it can, as soon as it can, to ensure that these unaccompanied minors are sent home without delay,” he said.

This is the law that has been stalled for a year, passed the Senate last June.

Bill Text - 113th Congress (2013-2014) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

 

[OKTexas]

Now, is Congress ever going to appropriate any money, or is recess starting early for Boehner and his bottle?

Blame the Congress. Blaming Bush getting too old for you?

Until you turn off the magnet, it doesn't matter how much money is appropriated.

Will The Money President Obama is Requesting for the Border Fix the Current Crisis?

Read More: Will The Money President Obama is Requesting for the Border Fix the Current Crisis? [POLL] | Will The Money President Obama is Requesting for the Border Fix the Current Crisis? [POLL]

The money is intended to add immigration judges, detention facilities, aid for the children and teens arriving here without their parents, and programs to deter people from fleeing the Central American nations where vicious gang violence is driving them north.

Johnson faces a tough sell as Republicans have criticized Obama for asking them for money but not for policy reforms, specifically amending a 2008 law to address human trafficking that’s contributed to the problem by guaranteeing court hearings to the arriving youths. In practice that often results in them staying here indefinitely.

The White House says it wants to change that law, but immigration advocates and some Democrats objected, and so far the White House has not put forward those reforms.

Democrats have raised their own questions about how the emergency money would be spent and whether too much of it would go for enforcement, rather than measures to help the children.

More than 57,000 unaccompanied kids have arrived since October even as tens of thousands more have arrived traveling as families, mostly mothers with their children.

All the previous threads, MULTITUDE of threads actually, claimed Obama wants illegal aliens here; the policy of sending them back is announced, now differing fabrications arise about what the money will be used for. Guess what, Congress will have to pass a Bill, CONGRESS allocates the money. Obama has repeatedly done his job, Congress does not like the allocation, at least Boehner doesn't, here are facts, not RWN fiction:

How Obama would use $3.7 billion on border crisis

$1.8 billion to the Department of Health and Human Services to care for the children, provide housing and address medical needs.

$1.5 billion to the Department of Homeland Security, including:

$879 million for detention and removal
$480 million for border agent overtime and temporary duties, as well as detention facility costs, medical costs and transportation
$109 million for expanded investigations in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras
$39 million for increased border air surveillance
$300 million to the State Department for foreign aid, and to reintegrate children in their home countries. It also includes a $5 million State Department ad campaign in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, to deter parents and children from making the trip to the U.S.

$64 million to the Department of Justice for more judges, including $45 million for the addition of 40 more judges teams. The White House believes this could mean processing 55,000 to 75,000 cases more per year; $15 million for lawyers for the children.

Congress can off of course amend. No 100 million for removal, almost 1 BILLION, as for "care" for the immgrants being so much, Perry wants 500 million for Texas ALONE.

Exactly what is Perry requesting the money for? Warning, this is an honesty test.

 

[Peach]

Blame the Congress. Blaming Bush getting too old for you?

Until you turn off the magnet, it doesn't matter how much money is appropriated.

Will The Money President Obama is Requesting for the Border Fix the Current Crisis?

Read More: Will The Money President Obama is Requesting for the Border Fix the Current Crisis? [POLL] | Will The Money President Obama is Requesting for the Border Fix the Current Crisis? [POLL]

The money is intended to add immigration judges, detention facilities, aid for the children and teens arriving here without their parents, and programs to deter people from fleeing the Central American nations where vicious gang violence is driving them north.

Johnson faces a tough sell as Republicans have criticized Obama for asking them for money but not for policy reforms, specifically amending a 2008 law to address human trafficking that’s contributed to the problem by guaranteeing court hearings to the arriving youths. In practice that often results in them staying here indefinitely.

The White House says it wants to change that law, but immigration advocates and some Democrats objected, and so far the White House has not put forward those reforms.

Democrats have raised their own questions about how the emergency money would be spent and whether too much of it would go for enforcement, rather than measures to help the children.

More than 57,000 unaccompanied kids have arrived since October even as tens of thousands more have arrived traveling as families, mostly mothers with their children.

All the previous threads, MULTITUDE of threads actually, claimed Obama wants illegal aliens here; the policy of sending them back is announced, now differing fabrications arise about what the money will be used for. Guess what, Congress will have to pass a Bill, CONGRESS allocates the money. Obama has repeatedly done his job, Congress does not like the allocation, at least Boehner doesn't, here are facts, not RWN fiction:

How Obama would use $3.7 billion on border crisis

$1.8 billion to the Department of Health and Human Services to care for the children, provide housing and address medical needs.

$1.5 billion to the Department of Homeland Security, including:

$879 million for detention and removal
$480 million for border agent overtime and temporary duties, as well as detention facility costs, medical costs and transportation
$109 million for expanded investigations in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras
$39 million for increased border air surveillance
$300 million to the State Department for foreign aid, and to reintegrate children in their home countries. It also includes a $5 million State Department ad campaign in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, to deter parents and children from making the trip to the U.S.

$64 million to the Department of Justice for more judges, including $45 million for the addition of 40 more judges teams. The White House believes this could mean processing 55,000 to 75,000 cases more per year; $15 million for lawyers for the children.

Congress can off of course amend. No 100 million for removal, almost 1 BILLION, as for "care" for the well being, Perry wants 500 million for Texas ALONE.

Exactly what is Perry requesting the money for? Warning, this is an honesty test.

I do not know Perry's exact budget needs, no doubt much has been spent in Texas, most of the current tide enter there, Perry wants them out, a city in California blocks them. Perry stated 500 million had been spent, thus, Texas will want more. I will post a, yet again:
Perry said the influx has "strained border resources that were already insufficient to the task at hand," and as a result, "the border between the U.S. and Mexico is less secure today than at any time in the recent past…"

He said Texas expects to spend an extra $1.3 million a week through the end of the year to beef up law-enforcement efforts to deal with the crisis, on top of $500 million that he said Texas has spent since 2005 to help secure the border.

Rick Perry Renews Calls for National Guard at Border

As for your honesty test, I will not conclude Perry is being dishonest at this point.

 

[Zander]

We will send you back; cannot say it stronger:

Obama official says at border: 'We'll send you back' - CNN.com

Now, is Congress ever going to appropriate any money, or is recess starting early for Boehner and his bottle?

Appropriate just enough to send them home. Use military assets to fly them home.

There is no reason to spend $4billion.

 

[Peach]

We will send you back; cannot say it stronger:

Obama official says at border: 'We'll send you back' - CNN.com

Now, is Congress ever going to appropriate any money, or is recess starting early for Boehner and his bottle?

Appropriate just enough to send them home. Use military assets to fly them home.

There is no reason to spend $4billion.

Thousands of locations, thousands of flights. And standing laws that require processing before deportation. The exceptions are Canadians & Mexicans. The current influx are neither.

 

[hazlnut]

All this hate must be giving you Tea people ass tumors the size of bowling balls.

 

[Zander]

We will send you back; cannot say it stronger:

Obama official says at border: 'We'll send you back' - CNN.com

Now, is Congress ever going to appropriate any money, or is recess starting early for Boehner and his bottle?

Appropriate just enough to send them home. Use military assets to fly them home.

There is no reason to spend $4billion.

Thousands of locations, thousands of flights. And standing laws that require processing before deportation. The exceptions are Canadians & Mexicans. The current influx are neither.

The law? When has that stopped Obama from doing whatever he wants? Obama doesn't need the law, he has a pen, and a phone. remember?

Maybe this is what he wants?

 

[Zander]

This sums up the Obama Border strategy........

 

[OKTexas]

All the previous threads, MULTITUDE of threads actually, claimed Obama wants illegal aliens here; the policy of sending them back is announced, now differing fabrications arise about what the money will be used for. Guess what, Congress will have to pass a Bill, CONGRESS allocates the money. Obama has repeatedly done his job, Congress does not like the allocation, at least Boehner doesn't, here are facts, not RWN fiction:

How Obama would use $3.7 billion on border crisis

$1.8 billion to the Department of Health and Human Services to care for the children, provide housing and address medical needs.

$1.5 billion to the Department of Homeland Security, including:

$879 million for detention and removal
$480 million for border agent overtime and temporary duties, as well as detention facility costs, medical costs and transportation
$109 million for expanded investigations in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras
$39 million for increased border air surveillance
$300 million to the State Department for foreign aid, and to reintegrate children in their home countries. It also includes a $5 million State Department ad campaign in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, to deter parents and children from making the trip to the U.S.

$64 million to the Department of Justice for more judges, including $45 million for the addition of 40 more judges teams. The White House believes this could mean processing 55,000 to 75,000 cases more per year; $15 million for lawyers for the children.

Congress can off of course amend. No 100 million for removal, almost 1 BILLION, as for "care" for the well being, Perry wants 500 million for Texas ALONE.

Exactly what is Perry requesting the money for? Warning, this is an honesty test.

I do not know Perry's exact budget needs, no doubt much has been spent in Texas, most of the current tide enter there, Perry wants them out, a city in California blocks them. Perry stated 500 million had been spent, thus, Texas will want more. I will post a, yet again:
Perry said the influx has "strained border resources that were already insufficient to the task at hand," and as a result, "the border between the U.S. and Mexico is less secure today than at any time in the recent past…"

He said Texas expects to spend an extra $1.3 million a week through the end of the year to beef up law-enforcement efforts to deal with the crisis, on top of $500 million that he said Texas has spent since 2005 to help secure the border.

Rick Perry Renews Calls for National Guard at Border

As for your honesty test, I will not conclude Perry is being dishonest at this point.

Good job, he asked for reimbursement for doing the feds job and a foreseeable need to continue to do so.

 

[Peach]

Exactly what is Perry requesting the money for? Warning, this is an honesty test.

I do not know Perry's exact budget needs, no doubt much has been spent in Texas, most of the current tide enter there, Perry wants them out, a city in California blocks them. Perry stated 500 million had been spent, thus, Texas will want more. I will post a, yet again:
Perry said the influx has "strained border resources that were already insufficient to the task at hand," and as a result, "the border between the U.S. and Mexico is less secure today than at any time in the recent past…"

He said Texas expects to spend an extra $1.3 million a week through the end of the year to beef up law-enforcement efforts to deal with the crisis, on top of $500 million that he said Texas has spent since 2005 to help secure the border.

Rick Perry Renews Calls for National Guard at Border

As for your honesty test, I will not conclude Perry is being dishonest at this point.

Good job, he asked for reimbursement for doing the feds job and a foreseeable need to continue to do so.

Texas can do quite a bit on their own, but yes, Texas taxpayers cannot foot the bill on their own. Texas has a long border, and it is porous. that is geography, no politics involved since the "splendid little war".