Jesse Ventura...fraud or moron?

[eots]

that's because, like the rest of your bullshit lies, it just isn't true. 2.3 trillion dollars are not properly accounted for according to gao standards. It's not "missing". It is a wonder truthtards are able to function in society with all the pathological lying they do.

link please

source

"according to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," rumsfeld admitted.

they're not saying the money is missing. They are saying transactions were made and goods delivered, but they cannot track them. This is further backed up by other interviews.

source[url]

in fiscal 1999, a defense audit found that about $2.3 trillion of balances, transactions and adjustments were inadequately documented. These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time. Auditors, she said, might have to go to different computer systems, to different locations or access different databases to get information.

so, as you can see, the money isn't "missing". It was used and the transactions have not been properly documented and accounted for. This also happened long before bush ever came into office.

So why is it you always ask for links, yet never offer links of your own to back up your bullshit?

so show me where they have...ITS NOT MISSING...WE JUST CANT ACCOUNT FOR IT...LOL

 

[Patriot911]

Wow, just flat out lied, he's a liar, and on purpose too according to you right? Probably just wants our money too huh? Maybe gets a kick back from pilotsfortruth.org! You slime bag parasite. You have to reach for any discrepancy, or off the cuff remark to somehow try to discredit this gentleman. So he may have said shit out of his ass for being unprepared for an interview, and took a guess, (he did use the word probably didn't he?) so what? You do it here all the time on this forum jackass. It doesn't mean he's this big liar your making him out to be. STFU with your bullshit whining already. He's a better man then you'll ever be, and you fucking know it, you jealous little bitch. Please tell us all again what a great pilot you are? Whose backing the terrorists now? You act like you'd pat Honjour on the back for doing such a great job.
Your statement about the man is disingenuous and slanderous, and another one of your over the top reactions. Do you even know for sure what part of the flight maneuver he might have been referring to? I'll answer that for you ya crying lil bitch. NO! you don't. I bet you wouldn't say that kind of shit to his face you pussy..

Awww.... isn't that cute! eots couldn't defend his butt buddy so Jones has to fly in, make an ass out of himself and pretend the fucking LIARS at eots' site are just "mistaken" because they got caught "off guard". PATHETIC!!! You fucking truthtards ignore EVERYTHING that debunks your theories and your "experts", yet we're suppose to just believe you fucking liars? I don't think so.

I am not a pilot. I HAVE flown. A LOT. Looking at the recreation from the FDR, it is clear how big the turn was, how long the turn was, and how fast they were going. I knew from looking at that that the turn couldn't have been over a G. I did the math. I was right.

So how can I, a NON PILOT, know something for a certainty when a supposed expert lies his truthtard ass off and exaggerates the effect to the point of lunacy! Why? Because it SOUNDS better. Like all truthtards, lying is a means to try and get the stupid fucks to try and believe you, so the more unbelievable it sounds, the more you truthtards believe it.

So go ahead, Jonesie. Prove I am wrong. It is math. It is science. It is a known, provable thing. Either I am lying or your conspiratard sites are lying. Here is your chance. Now go run away like your butt buddy eots. You're all a bunch of no good pussies who can't fight the fight when it comes down to it.

YOU NEED TO LISTEN AGAIN HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE FLT MANEUVERS IN GENERAL BEING VERY QUESTIONABLE ESPECIALLY FOR EXPERIENCED PILOTS THE G FORCE COMMENT WAS IN REGARD TO THE FLT 175 MOISE DIVE

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDa7B_LG10[/ame]

You truthtards are so fucking ignorant you don't even know what the fuck anyone is talking about! This is hilarious!

G forces are what a plane experiences during a turn. The video you posted is all about the supposed impossible speeds of flight 175. That had NOTHING to do with G forces.

It is amazing that you dickless wonders still manage to step on your dicks so often. The incredible dishonesty of you fucks is just amazing.

But hey. Don't let me stop you asses from pretending Capt. Russ Wittenberg wasn't talking about the spiral of flight 77. It only highlights your own dishonesty and complete disregard for the truth.

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

•Video interview 9/11 Ripple Effect 8/07: "I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it." http://americanbuddhist.net

•Article 7/17/05: "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." … Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."…

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying." Investigative Journal

•Audio Interview 9/16/04: Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon. "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous...

So keep on pretending he was never talking about Flight 77. We all know you read the article. You cut and pasted part of it. You have no excuses.

 

[Patriot911]

so show me where they have...ITS NOT MISSING...WE JUST CANT ACCOUNT FOR IT...LOL

Holy SHIT! Are you seriously this fucking DUMB?!? Did you even bother to READ THE POST?!? I even highlighted it for you and you missed it. How do you manage to keep breathing without constant reminders?

Here it is again. Try to pay attention this time. Get an adult to explain it to you if you still can't understand this, even though they use relatively small words.

These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time.

Now go ahead and keep on dancing around the subject. If you ever had any credibility left in anyone's eyes, this ought to destroy it.

 

[eots]

Awww.... isn't that cute! eots couldn't defend his butt buddy so Jones has to fly in, make an ass out of himself and pretend the fucking LIARS at eots' site are just "mistaken" because they got caught "off guard". PATHETIC!!! You fucking truthtards ignore EVERYTHING that debunks your theories and your "experts", yet we're suppose to just believe you fucking liars? I don't think so.

I am not a pilot. I HAVE flown. A LOT. Looking at the recreation from the FDR, it is clear how big the turn was, how long the turn was, and how fast they were going. I knew from looking at that that the turn couldn't have been over a G. I did the math. I was right.

So how can I, a NON PILOT, know something for a certainty when a supposed expert lies his truthtard ass off and exaggerates the effect to the point of lunacy! Why? Because it SOUNDS better. Like all truthtards, lying is a means to try and get the stupid fucks to try and believe you, so the more unbelievable it sounds, the more you truthtards believe it.

So go ahead, Jonesie. Prove I am wrong. It is math. It is science. It is a known, provable thing. Either I am lying or your conspiratard sites are lying. Here is your chance. Now go run away like your butt buddy eots. You're all a bunch of no good pussies who can't fight the fight when it comes down to it.

YOU NEED TO LISTEN AGAIN HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE FLT MANEUVERS IN GENERAL BEING VERY QUESTIONABLE ESPECIALLY FOR EXPERIENCED PILOTS THE G FORCE COMMENT WAS IN REGARD TO THE FLT 175 MOISE DIVE

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDa7B_LG10[/ame]

You truthtards are so fucking ignorant you don't even know what the fuck anyone is talking about! This is hilarious!

G forces are what a plane experiences during a turn. The video you posted is all about the supposed impossible speeds of flight 175. That had NOTHING to do with G forces.

It is amazing that you dickless wonders still manage to step on your dicks so often. The incredible dishonesty of you fucks is just amazing.

But hey. Don't let me stop you asses from pretending Capt. Russ Wittenberg wasn't talking about the spiral of flight 77. It only highlights your own dishonesty and complete disregard for the truth.

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

•Video interview 9/11 Ripple Effect 8/07: "I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it." http://americanbuddhist.net

•Article 7/17/05: "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." … Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."…

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying." Investigative Journal

•Audio Interview 9/16/04: Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon. "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous...

So keep on pretending he was never talking about Flight 77. We all know you read the article. You cut and pasted part of it. You have no excuses.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT FLT MANEUVERS IN GENERAL AND NEVER SAID THE G-FORCE COMMENT IN DIRECT RELATION TO THE PENTAGON

GO DO YOUR "GOOD" MATH...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDa7B_LG10[/ame]

 

[Patriot911]

He is a hopeless lying pos that dances around what is asked of him, and doesn't understand that the liars are the ones whose conspiracy theory he believes.

Another example of truthtards being completely unable to address the truth so they have to resort to lies. I've backed up my claims. You shitheads have ducked and danced around everything, yet you've STILL come up short!!

He probably doesn't even know what part of the Pentagon and workers were killed that the question is based upon. He is hopelessly lost, what a joke. And he came here to "make 9-11 truthers cry" LOL! The money can't be accounted for, but it's not missing!! What a pathetic excuse, holy shit!! If his bank said they couldn't account for his money, I suppose he wouldn't complain and say it was missing LOL! You are a sad ass mfker parrot!!

And here we see another truthtard stepping all over his pathetically small dick. It's not the money that is missing but the documentation for the transactions. Way to prove what a fucking moron you are!

Truthtards are so easy to expose as single digit IQ fucktards.

 

[Patriot911]

So keep on pretending he was never talking about Flight 77. We all know you read the article. You cut and pasted part of it. You have no excuses.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT FLT MANEUVERS IN GENERAL AND NEVER SAID THE G-FORCE COMMENT IN DIRECT RELATION TO THE PENTAGON

GO DO YOUR "GOOD" MATH...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDa7B_LG10[/ame][/QUOTE]

And like a good dickless truthtard, you once again can't address the post so have to resort to trying to change the subject and make excuses. You guys are so fucking pathetic it is INCREDIBLE!

DANCE FUCKTARD! DANCE!!!!

Tell us again how the speed of flight 175 has anything to do with G forces and the lies of Wittenberg.

 

[eots]

So show us that a commercial airliner can fly at these speeds at sea level and why after ten years they have not accounted for the unaccounted trillions of dollars.....

 

[Patriot911]

So show us that a commercial airliner can fly at these speeds at sea level

If you want proof, watch the videos where you can see an airliner flying at that speed. Funny how when it suits them, truthtards will turn to the theoretical vs. the actual when the actual doesn't show them what they want to see.

and why after ten years they have not accounted for the unaccounted trillions of dollars.....

Funny how you truthtards STILL can't face the truth. It isn't trillions of dollars. It is trillions of dollars in transactions.

So post a link that says it is all still missing. I have no doubt the Pentagon still has accounting nightmares, but pardon my skepticism when a truthtard of your magnitude and willingness to lie makes any kind of claim.

 

[Mr. Jones]

that's because, like the rest of your bullshit lies, it just isn't true. 2.3 trillion dollars are not properly accounted for according to gao standards. It's not "missing". It is a wonder truthtards are able to function in society with all the pathological lying they do.

link please

source

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

They're not saying the money is missing. They are saying transactions were made and goods delivered, but they cannot track them. This is further backed up by other interviews.

Source[url]

In fiscal 1999, a defense audit found that about $2.3 trillion of balances, transactions and adjustments were inadequately documented. These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time. Auditors, she said, might have to go to different computer systems, to different locations or access different databases to get information.

So, as you can see, the money isn't "missing". It was used and the transactions have not been properly documented and accounted for. This also happened long before Bush ever came into office.

So why is it you always ask for links, yet never offer links of your own to back up your bullshit?

This response solidifies your dense disinformation tactics. Are you seriously satisfied with that excuse? Most intelligent people aren't I will guarantee you that! To think you are involved in local politics, yeah go ahead and "misplace" money and see if you don't wind up indicted for fraud asswipe . Go ahead and ask why us why they weren't. You have no comprehension about the power these criminals have. Go ahead. I'm saving your posts and forwarding them, you are a riot!! You're always dependable for a good laugh I'll grant you that!

 

[trlrtrash13]

I say he's a fraud. He was never even really a Nave S.E.A.L.

 

[eots]

So show us that a commercial airliner can fly at these speeds at sea level

If you want proof, watch the videos where you can see an airliner flying at that speed. Funny how when it suits them, truthtards will turn to the theoretical vs. the actual when the actual doesn't show them what they want to see.

SO YOU CANT SHOW.. MATHEMATICALLY HOW THE FLT DATA IS POSSIBLE

and why after ten years they have not accounted for the unaccounted trillions of dollars.....

Funny how you truthtards STILL can't face the truth. It isn't trillions of dollars. It is trillions of dollars in transactions.

So post a link that says it is all still missing. I have no doubt the Pentagon still has accounting nightmares, but pardon my skepticism when a truthtard of your magnitude and willingness to lie makes any kind of claim.

SO YOU CAN PROVIDE ZERO EVIDENCE THE TRILLION DOLLAR ACCOUNTING BOO-BOOS HAVE EVER BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN TEN YEARS

 

[Patriot911]

So show us that a commercial airliner can fly at these speeds at sea level

If you want proof, watch the videos where you can see an airliner flying at that speed. Funny how when it suits them, truthtards will turn to the theoretical vs. the actual when the actual doesn't show them what they want to see.

SO YOU CANT SHOW.. MATHEMATICALLY HOW THE FLT DATA IS POSSIBLE

Don't need to. When you have a real world example of something happening, you don't sit there and pretend it is impossible. You slept through every minute of school, didn't you.

So post a link that says it is all still missing. I have no doubt the Pentagon still has accounting nightmares, but pardon my skepticism when a truthtard of your magnitude and willingness to lie makes any kind of claim.

SO YOU CAN PROVIDE ZERO EVIDENCE THE TRILLION DOLLAR ACCOUNTING BOO-BOOS HAVE EVER BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN TEN YEARS

I probably could if I bothered to look, but what difference does it make? I proved your lie of trillions of dollars missing was a lie. That is good enough for me. The government, despite all your attempts to make them out to be this organization that can perfectly pull off an operation the size of 9/11, is incompetent. The sooner you realize that, the better you will be able to understand things.

 

[eots]

If you want proof, watch the videos where you can see an airliner flying at that speed. Funny how when it suits them, truthtards will turn to the theoretical vs. the actual when the actual doesn't show them what they want to see.

SO YOU CANT SHOW.. MATHEMATICALLY HOW THE FLT DATA IS POSSIBLE

Don't need to. When you have a real world example of something happening, you don't sit there and pretend it is impossible. You slept through every minute of school, didn't you.

I probably could if I bothered to look, but what difference does it make? I proved your lie of trillions of dollars missing was a lie. That is good enough for me. The government, despite all your attempts to make them out to be this organization that can perfectly pull off an operation the size of 9/11, is incompetent. The sooner you realize that, the better you will be able to understand things.

IN THE LACK OF ALL FACTS THIS BECOMES THE NEW PREMISE FOR YOUR 9/11 THEORIES

 

[Mr. Jones]

So show us that a commercial airliner can fly at these speeds at sea level

If you want proof, watch the videos where you can see an airliner flying at that speed. Funny how when it suits them, truthtards will turn to the theoretical vs. the actual when the actual doesn't show them what they want to see.

and why after ten years they have not accounted for the unaccounted trillions of dollars.....

Funny how you truthtards STILL can't face the truth. It isn't trillions of dollars. It is trillions of dollars in transactions.

So post a link that says it is all still missing. I have no doubt the Pentagon still has accounting nightmares, but pardon my skepticism when a truthtard of your magnitude and willingness to lie makes any kind of claim.

Ey Parrot, how bout this math..2.3 trillion dollars/transactions=unaccounted for=missing. What do you come up with? Fucking loser...anti American POS!! lol!
Trillions of dollars in "unsupported adjustments" means trillions of dollars unaccounted for. What's going on? Where is the money? How could this happen? Where are the checks and balances? How much more has gone missing? Aw its okay Parrot 9-11 people ain't worried...go back to sleep America!
Where is the money?
You want the truth? You wont seek it because you can't stand the truth!

 

[eots]

If you want proof, watch the videos where you can see an airliner flying at that speed. Funny how when it suits them, truthtards will turn to the theoretical vs. the actual when the actual doesn't show them what they want to see.

SO YOU CANT SHOW.. MATHEMATICALLY HOW THE FLT DATA IS POSSIBLE

Don't need to. When you have a real world example of something happening, you don't sit there and pretend it is impossible. You slept through every minute of school, didn't you.

YOU CAN DETERMINE THE ACCURACY OF THE FLT DATA AND THE SPEED OF THE CRAFT FROM THE FOOTAGE YOU SEE OF THE PLANE HITTING THE TOWER ?

I probably could if I bothered to look, but what difference does it make? I proved your lie of trillions of dollars missing was a lie. That is good enough for me. The government, despite all your attempts to make them out to be this organization that can perfectly pull off an operation the size of 9/11, is incompetent. The sooner you realize that, the better you will be able to understand things.

NO YOU COULD NOT... BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST OUTSIDE OF YOUR IMAGININGS...AND UNACCOUNTED FOR MONEY IS MISSING MONEY !!!

 

[Mr. Jones]

I probably could if I bothered to look, but what difference does it make? I proved your lie of trillions of dollars missing was a lie. That is good enough for me. The government, despite all your attempts to make them out to be this organization that can perfectly pull off an operation the size of 9/11, is incompetent.

They didn't pull off 9-11 perfectly idiot, why do you think people are questioning it? And to think we haven't even touched on all the peculiar coincidences yet!

I probably could if I bothered to look, but what difference does it make?

Priceless...Way to go Parrot (fake Patriot 9-11)

 

[Patriot911]

DANCE YA FUCKING RETARDS! DANCE!!!

You have nothing so you have to pretend. Wow. Think anyone is buying your bullshit? I sure don't.

But hey. You already have proven you're more than willing to completely ignore evidence that you don't like. How typical of shits that have nothing.

DANCE YA FUCKING RETARDS! DANCE!!!

 

[eots]

Dance ya fucking retards! Dance!!!

You have nothing so you have to pretend. Wow. Think anyone is buying your bullshit? I sure don't.

But hey. You already have proven you're more than willing to completely ignore evidence that you don't like. How typical of shits that have nothing.

Dance ya fucking retards! Dance!!!

oh-oh ...he is becoming completely... Unhinged...illogical .. Maybe you need to take sometime off...i am concerned for you

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

eots

blah blah blah

none of that explain how and explosive devices can have the force required to cut major girders and yet not break adjacent windows.

thermite

Putting aside the inherent problems with thermite How much thermite would be needed to cut column 79 ?

 

[Ravi]

the show is all theatrics which there is nothing wrong about that because quite a few shows are nothing but theatrics. But when you're taking the position of being the "one show that tells it like it is", and you're just like everybody else, well it falls flat to the honest viewer.

I have watched 2 shows; one about 9/11 and one about plum island since it involved bio-terror. Those of you who know me know that i'm the traffic manager for a large healthcare entity and part of my job description would be to head-up the logistics section. So anything that comes on television about the subject is a potential agent of good or ill. His had very little to do with the subject; it turns out but in watching the show....you could tell how heavily edited it was. Unfortunately for "the body", it wasn't done well.

At one point in the show, the "team" went to a marina to get a vessel that would take them to plum island. For those of you whom do not know, plum island is a remote island in long island sound where the federal government has done research into germ warfare. The island has a private dock terminal that was next to this marina where "the body" was trying to get a vessel to take him. The one captain that said he was going to take them declined. The interaction where he declines wasn't shown on tv but "the body" indicates that he was intimidated by dhs to not take them. Meanwhile, and this is what makes me laugh, they keep showing a white dhs ford explorer in the distance. They show it about 7 times as it is "patrolling". The editing is set up to portray dhs as harassing "the team". In truth, it is the same clip shown about 7 times and just before the clip ends, you see the explorer starting to turn away from "the team". It was, obviously, looking for a parking space at the terminal. But for the purposes of the show...it was portrayed as a the jack-booted thugs.

Well, they eventually find a captain who will take them. "the team" gets on a boat and takes off toward this highly secure government facility. Obviously the crew didn't get permission to approach the installation. So a coast guard patrol boat about the same size as a carolina skiff is photographed about 150 yards off starboard. To "the body" this is wrong. "he's obviously tailing us!". Duh!

All the while, the v/o guy is playing it for maximum hype...."when we return, the governor storms plum island!!!" "the body" doesn't go anywhere near plum island. You get the feeling that v/o guy is trying very hard to contain his laughter or keep down his lunch.

Again, this is what you see on deadliest catch, irt, and every other cheesecake show that comes on basic cable. Its harmless and it means nothing. The difference, again is that deadliest catch and irt edit for interest and are not pretending to be uncovering anything, "conspiracy theory" does and is fraudulent about it.

The 9/11 show was what you'd expect; total garbage. Anything willie rodriguez is attached to rings hollow since he is an obvious war-time profiteer out for self-enrichment and nothing else.

yes...this pretty much is my take on his show as well. Lol on the white ford explorer.

I have to conclude that ventura is a fraud making money off of gullible people and using a tragedy to do so.

why cant we see the 84 still classified surveillance tapes ?...why did it take 5 years to force them to release 5 frames

This thread is about Ventura.

You must see how heavily he edits his program to slant it. If you are so suspicious of the government why do you give Ventura a pass?